Gravitymaster 0 #26 February 20, 2006 Quoteand Saudi Arabia. Yep, probably easier to list the countries NOT threatened by Muslim extremists. That would be a very short list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #27 February 20, 2006 >Yep, probably easier to list the countries NOT threatened by Muslim extremists. Being afraid of someone does not make them a real threat. North Korea is still a much bigger risk to the rest of the world, even if they are not currently in the headlines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #28 February 20, 2006 Quote>Yep, probably easier to list the countries NOT threatened by Muslim extremists. Being afraid of someone does not make them a real threat. North Korea is still a much bigger risk to the rest of the world, even if they are not currently in the headlines. It's not about being afraid of Muslim extremists. Every country I've listed so far has been attacked in some way by them, to some degree. N.Korea, OTOH hasn't attacked anybody, yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #29 February 20, 2006 Kenya, Tanzania, Yemen...just too add more to the list of countries who have seen violence from Islam, not just merely afraid of Islam. And Bill, NK has proven to be a guy w/ a cock the size of my pinky trying to prove to everyone it's really the size of my leg. The guy's a nutjob, but he's looking for attention where as Muslims have been the one who have been actively violent against numerous countries and people of all origins, religions, skin color, etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nopullmike 0 #30 February 20, 2006 Well being that I have spent 9 months in Iraq and looking at another ten, I can tell all of you that there are some really cool Iraqis. I have meet many that just want to work and provide a good life for there family. That being said, it pains me to agree with the more radical members here. After being blown up, shot at and having a good man die in my hands I have to say that I hate these people just as much as I pity them... There not all bad, but the bad ones sure fuck it up for the rest of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #31 February 20, 2006 QuoteQuoteIn that case, you should probably acknowledge that 99.99% of Muslims would never riot over a comic; you just hear about the JDAM's (in this case, rioters) via the media. Ok ok....but what about the fact that in the last half century, practically the only group bringing violence, hate, rage, etc. by way of words AND action in this large of scale has been Muslims? When's the last time you saw thousands of Christian's rioting? When's the last time Jews, Budhists, even Atheists, massed to spew violence and hate against others for no good reason? Forgotten catholics vs protestants in N. Ireland? How soon we forget inconvenient truths.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #32 February 20, 2006 QuoteOk ok....but what about the fact that in the last half century, practically the only group bringing violence, hate, rage, etc. by way of words AND action in this large of scale has been Muslims? Hutu vs. Tutsi Catholic vs. Protestant in Ireland Government vs. dissidents in many SA countries Government vs. colored in SA until the end of apartheid Idi Amin Dada against everyone Everyone against everyone in Zaire for a long time Government vs. everyone in Laos Government vs. everyone in China (Cultural revolution) probably a whole lot of others I don't read enough to be aware of Not always the same level of violence, but maybe this is a short time in the history of the world, just as the previous 50 years (with the Germans and Japanese vs. everyone, and probably a whole lot of others that we don't read about as much) was a short time. The extremist view of Islam is scary, no doubt about that. But so are some extremist Christians, and extremist Jews. There just aren't as many dispossessed Christians and Jews, so the the extremist factions don't have as many adherents. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #33 February 20, 2006 >It's not about being afraid of Muslim extremists. Of course it is. Fear is what terrorism is all about - and the more afraid they keep you the better they are doing. Terrorists have managed to keep themselves on the top of the list when it comes to news, which is exactly what they want. >N.Korea, OTOH hasn't attacked anybody, yet. Thanks for the laugh! Normally I would recommend Wikipedia, but a few episodes of M*A*S*H would work as well here (and be more fun!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twibbles 0 #34 February 20, 2006 QuoteKenya, Tanzania, Yemen...just too add more to the list of countries who have seen violence from Islam, not just merely afraid of Islam. I don't think it's Islam we should be worried about, what we should be worried about are people who quote Islam as a reason for inflicting violence on people. Following your arguement about the majority of Muslims being complete idiots: Have anyone actually looked at the numbers? The percentage of the number of Muslims who do violence against the total number of Muslims. And compare it with other ideologies. I lived in Malaysia for 16 years, a Muslim Majority country. and i don't see the majority of Muslims as extremist idiots. Have you had much experience with Islam outside the media? Eugene edited to add: I'm not a muslim, i'm a atheist of chinese descent who spent 10 years in a mission school. . "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdD 1 #35 February 20, 2006 The majority of everybody are complete idiots. No need to bring racism into it.Life is ez On the dz Every jumper's dream 3 rigs and an airstream Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasmack 0 #36 February 20, 2006 QuoteThe majority of everybody are complete idiots. No need to bring racism into it. How true. HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #37 February 20, 2006 QuoteI can tell all of you that there are some really cool Iraqis/quote] absolutely no argument here. ***There not all bad, but the bad ones sure fuck it up for the rest of them. Yep. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #38 February 20, 2006 Not knowing your enemy is grounds for actually READING SUN TZU ON THE ART OF WAR SUN TZU , THE OLDEST MILITARY TREATISE IN THE WORLD Too bad none of our Military "EXPERTS" in this ADMINISTRATION ever read it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #39 February 20, 2006 Quote Forgotten catholics vs protestants in N. Ireland? No I didn't. Have those groups gone at anyone else besides each other? Hey, they have their own little war, fine...but it's Islam who's trying to make the entire world their own battle ground and everyone who's not them their enemy. At least the Catholics just hated the Protestants and went after them and vice versa. They didn't try to blame jews for the problems or blame Muslims for their problems and start attacking Israel or Iran. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #40 February 20, 2006 And see my reply to Kallend. Same thing applies to all of these. Remember, the point I was making is that it's Muslims who go out of their way, out of their borders to blame someone else who has nothing to do w/ the situation and attack them anyways. This is not about who fights among each other or one other "arch enemy," it's about who wants to destroy every western country, race, religion in the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #41 February 20, 2006 QuoteThanks for the laugh! Normally I would recommend Wikipedia, but a few episodes of M*A*S*H would work as well here (and be more fun!) I think it's painfully obvious he was referring to post-Korea...and at that point, at least they only attacked their enemy S. Korea instead of just attacking everyone else in the world for no reason. But I agree, lets watch MASH! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #42 February 20, 2006 QuoteI lived in Malaysia for 16 years, a Muslim Majority country. and i don't see the majority of Muslims as extremist idiots. Have you had much experience with Islam outside the media? True, which is why I recanted from"majority" and made it to large numbers around several areas of the world. The point I'm making is more of a comparative one...i.e. it's Islam who is bringing the most threat against the western world, and yes, it's in the tens of thousands who mean death and destruction. Yes I've had experience with Islam outside of the media and yes they are generally great people. I'm not here to say every Muslim is an asshat (sorry for giving that feeling earlier), but just that Islam in general is producing incredible amounts of violent problems vs any other religion, group of people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #43 February 20, 2006 Ok and why don't you educate me on what I don't know about my enemy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #44 February 20, 2006 Well ASSuming most muslims are idiots.... shows a certain lack of understanding the enemy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #45 February 20, 2006 Ok, I've been over this a thousand times...well maybe 5 times, but either way, people should read the thread before posting incorrect responses. I was pissed when I wrote it and recanted on the "majority" or even "most" thing. It's a large number in several regions of the world. So no, I do not ASSume 90% of Muslims are idiots. There is no lack of understanding...now I gotta get back to work, lunch over. P.S. Did you like how clever it was to capitalize the ASS in assume...I'm so happy w/ myself now! Unsurmountable creativity is so cool! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #46 February 20, 2006 Yes, the majority of Muslims are complete idiots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #47 February 20, 2006 QuoteI'm so happy w/ myself now! Unsurmountable creativity is so cool! I am so happy for you...its good to self actualize. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #48 February 20, 2006 >Yes, the majority of Muslims are complete idiots. To his credit, he's already retracted that statement. It makes about as much sense as saying "most blacks are stupid/criminals" - and says about the same about the person who believes that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #49 February 21, 2006 Quote>It's not about being afraid of Muslim extremists. Of course it is. Fear is what terrorism is all about -and the more afraid they keep you the better they are doing. Terrorists have managed to keep themselves on the top of the list when it comes to news, which is exactly what they want. No, it's about who poses the greatest real threat, today and in the near future. Quote>N.Korea, OTOH hasn't attacked anybody, yet. Thanks for the laugh! Normally I would recommend Wikipedia, but a few episodes of M*A*S*H would work as well here (and be more fun!) Oh, sorry. I thought we were talking about the present. Pretty lame if you ask me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #50 February 21, 2006 >Oh, sorry. I thought we were talking about the present. Presently only one country has nuclear warheads, the means to deliver them and has stated that they will destroy the US. Can you name this country? (Hint - it's the one you don't think is a serious threat compared to some religious nuts) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
