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peacefuljeffrey

Why is there a need for a "gay day" for skydiving? Or any other kind of "day"?

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Cool, there's legitimate reason number what, two?



Bushwah!!

There doesn't have to be a "legitimate reason" for ANY boogie....




Shh! Leave it alone! I was attempting to keep the thread from deteriorating into a Bonfire-esque clique-fest, but... too late. :|

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"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

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Don't worry, I don't care much for beer, so if he buys me one, I'll pour it on your head and then you'll continue to not have to forgive me. :|



Oh, I forgave you a long time ago. Do you want me to repeat what I already said? I could just make it a sig, so you don't forget again.

Just remember, though...if you start the beer fight, it's no holds barred, and I'm highly motivated.

rl
If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

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"It's that it involves people that I want to hang out with and jump with...who are there for the same reason as me. ........... I can understand women wanting to spend time boogying with other women, gays with other gays, hispanics with other hispanics, deaf jumpers with other deaf jumpers, etc. Sometimes, we want to be around people who we have more in common with than just skydiving as a hobby."

Beautifully put, I'm out at my home DZ and 99.999% of the folks there are absolutely cool with it, but, especially in the evening when the jumping is done for the day, rather than being beside a bunch of "breeders" - don't like that term myself - talking about how big the tits are on so and so, I would like to have a little bitch with another queen. OK there's the odd one or two who are here now and again, one is a whole lot camper than I am, but the chance to kick back after a good day's jumping with everyone at the DZ and be amongst people who have all had to face the crap (no pun intended :S) from their work-a-day life aimed at gays (fags, queens, queers - you choose) sounds like a geat way to finish a day, just a pisser I'm in the UK and working at the time.
Blue ones, Neil

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>try having hetero day . . .

Pretty much every day is hetero day. It would be like having a "ram air parachute boogie" or a turbine day at Perris.



Bullshit. It is just a DAY, period. It's not a specific "day" until it is labelled as such. This "gay day" should have been shot down as fast as a "Boogie for Christ" would be at most dz's. Then we would have true equality.


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Ok, so my point was worded wrong. I meant how the boogie would be excepted and backed. Take for instance, The Gay Day Boogie thread in the Bonfire. This CLEARLY should be in the Events forum, but gosh darnit, it just wasn't getting the hits it so "deserved." So the the thread in the Events forum was locked and the one in the Bonfire allowed to stay.


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Actually, if you'll notice, the very first post indicated that they were posting that in Bonfire with the prior agreement of dz.com management -- he didn't just do it to get more hits.

TANDD

Wendy W.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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So the the thread in the Events forum was locked and the one in the Bonfire allowed to stay.



If this standard is going to be applied, then almost every boogie that's popular with dropzone.commers has broken those rules quite egregiously (Dublin being one of the worst offenders, but LP, Byron, WFFC and many others have spawned *multiple* threads).

Weak argument, Chris.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

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Talking about a boogie and advertising it with dates and such as this "Gay Day" are two different things. This was clearly an exception being made. There WAS a thread in the Events forum, then cross-posted in the Bonfire, and they locked the one in the Events forum to leave it in the Bonfire.


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Talking about a boogie and advertising it with dates and such as this "Gay Day" are two different things. This was clearly an exception being made. There WAS a thread in the Events forum, then cross-posted in the Bonfire, and they locked the one in the Events forum to leave it in the Bonfire.



So? What's the big deal? Really....
There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

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Just pointing out that all "days" are not treated the same or equally as people suggest. Look at the original post in the Bonfire:

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Without further ado, as one of the organizers, I've now finally publicly announced the event.

This Bonfire thread is for any other discussion that might not belong in the other thread in the "Events & Places to Jump" thread. Please, no "Speaker Corner" material, I obtained permission from a greenie to announce the boogie -- and they did say they will watch for any posts that might get out of hand.

Summary: There's a Twin Otter an 3 Beench 18's. People are already booking tickets to fly in (including a New Zealander), and I already have a Load Organizer tentatively attending from Skydive Spaceland, as well as more than one sponsor have expressed an interest in the event! We already have almost enough attendees to fill a Twin Otter already, and that's without having started advertising yet (ie magazines etc)!

My Announcement in Events & Places to Jump:
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Rainbow Boogie 2006 -- Montreal, July 28-31 -- World's First Gay Day at a Skydiving Dropzone!

WHO: Everyone is invited - all gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered skydivers, and their straight friends!
WHEN: July 28-31st, 2006
WHERE: Montréal
OFFICIAL SITE: www.RainbowBoogie.com



This is NOT just a discussion. This is posting an event in the Bonfire, which was allowed by dz.com management. Can they do whatever they want? Sure. My point is ther is a definite inequality in how it is treated.


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Talking about a boogie and advertising it with dates and such as this "Gay Day" are two different things. This was clearly an exception being made. There WAS a thread in the Events forum, then cross-posted in the Bonfire, and they locked the one in the Events forum to leave it in the Bonfire.



I maintain this is a weak argument against this boogie. You're not convincing me that every Dublin thread (not to mention Chris Spence's sig line) is somehow different than this. Every boogie that's popular with DZ.com folks gets a lot of talk.

Maybe Mark did "break the rules" by posting similar information in both events and Bonfire. Many, many boogie organizers and/or fans of a boogie have done that.

This smacks of your argument against Brokeback Mountain's Oscar Nominations... "only getting so much attention because it's about a gay relationship."

Maybe this boogie *is* getting more attention/talk/publicity/leeway from the moderators because it is the very first one that targets gay skydivers. But you can't argue that it's the only boogie that gets lots of attention/talk/publicity/leeway from the moderators. And it's a weak argument against the boogie, just as your argument against Brokeback Mountain was weak.

I'd expect more from you... the arguments I'm seeing are just weak enough to keep you from pissing anyone off or getting you accused of being politically incorrect and insensitive, and yet you're still making them. Why?

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There will always be inequality on dropzone.com. Some things are made sticky, and some aren't. Some threads are allowed to go on forever, and some aren't.

That being said, the mods do a darned good job of keeping it as fair as they can.
There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

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I heard a rumor that Mark once drove 5km/hour over the speed limit on the way to the DZ for a meeting to organize this event.

But he wasn't stopped by the police and didn't receive a ticket! This is just one MORE way that gay people oppress the poor put-upon straight minority.

Rise up ye huddled masses of heterosexuals. Rise and THROW off your chains!


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Note to Self

Upon meeting people from SC in the future.....
Pouring beer over thier heads is approved by PJ...

Yeah, but don't piss in their mouths if their teeth are on fire :ph34r:

Wendy W.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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>Talking about a boogie and advertising it with dates and
>such as this "Gay Day" are two different things.

If you have a boogie with dates you are welcome to post it in Events. If you want to chat about it you are welcome to do so in Bonfire. There's really no evil conspiracy. Start a christian boogie and I promise we will let you post an event notice and talk about it in Bonfire.

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Note to Self

Upon meeting people from SC in the future.....
Pouring beer over thier heads is approved by PJ...

Yeah, but don't piss in their mouths if their teeth are on fire :ph34r:

Wendy W.



I'd prefer the beer option in that situation anyway. :|

How would one's teeth end up on fire, anyway? What a weird expression. :|

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

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Most people prefer to talk about major boogies in the Bonfire rather than the Events area. Whether it be MOAB, WFFC, Lost Prarie, RoamingDZ, Dublin, and other boogies/events/festivals.

Not many boogies are publicized right now, so ours do seem to be getting a lot more attention right now with popular Bonfire and Speaker Corner threads. Some say I am pretty early with the boogie planning (although I don't think so!).

Originally, the Event one wasn't meant to be the discussion thread, while the Bonfire one is. However, the threads apparently started to serve a similiar purpose, so I understand the need to close one of them -- as you can see from my posting in the Events thread, I requested it to be the Events thread to be closed.

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