micro 0 #476 February 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteIsn't this the second time someone raised the idea of the Pink Pistols as a specious and cynical attempt to confuse the issue between an advocacy group and a "gay gun show"? Can you not mentally separate the two? Try knowledge instead of ignorance sometime. Pink Pistols is gay people who go shooting together. Gay boogie is gay people who go chuting together. Looks like we have a match! That was a very nice way of bringing down to a level that all could easily understand. Well done. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #477 February 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteIsn't this the second time someone raised the idea of the Pink Pistols as a specious and cynical attempt to confuse the issue between an advocacy group and a "gay gun show"? Can you not mentally separate the two? Try knowledge instead of ignorance sometime. Pink Pistols is gay people who go shooting together. Gay boogie is gay people who go chuting together. Looks like we have a match! That was a very nice way of bringing down to a level that all could easily understand. Well done. Absolutely perfect without the first gratuitous TVPA (TM) too. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #478 February 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIsn't this the second time someone raised the idea of the Pink Pistols as a specious and cynical attempt to confuse the issue between an advocacy group and a "gay gun show"? Can you not mentally separate the two? Try knowledge instead of ignorance sometime. Pink Pistols is gay people who go shooting together. Gay boogie is gay people who go chuting together. Looks like we have a match! That was a very nice way of bringing down to a level that all could easily understand. Well done. Absolutely perfect without the first gratuitous TVPA (TM) too. Dude, if you are calling that a thinly veiled PA, maybe you should just go ahead and call "Can you not mentally separate the two?" as one too. It's obvious that the sentence was meant to imply the poster is not clever enough to get it. Carry on, referee. I got tired of making too many calls myself. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayruss 0 #479 February 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteBut there would be no point to having a GAY GUN SHOW, would there? - I think there would be Pink Pistols Isn't this the second time someone raised the idea of the Pink Pistols as a specious and cynical attempt to confuse the issue between an advocacy group and a "gay gun show"? Can you not mentally separate the two? - The two shouldn't be separated, one can feed the other. Evidence that there is a gay advocacy gun group with 35 chapters across North America would lead me to believe that might be a market for a gay gun show. As a marketer I've just narrowed down a large group, from gun lovers to gay gun lovers. Therefore I can cater an event themed as a gay gun show. The two shouldn't be separate. Now, I know several gay skydivers. I also know that the gay games will be taking place. Why not take this knowledge, much like the gun knowledge, and apply it to an event. How about a gay boogie? __________________________________________________ "Beware how you take away hope from another human being." -Oliver Wendell Holmes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #480 February 28, 2006 QuoteCarry on referee. I got tired of making too many calls myself. Dude - It's less that than the non-stop-have-one-in-every-single-post thing going on lately (not just Narci, a ton of people. Narci was a gas yesterday, on form, some of the posts were just FUNNY). It's been about 3 years since the last time the personal attacks were this thick. It's a complete lack of putting out a position which stands on it's own merit - the little jabs seem obligatory. {{"Can you not mentally separate the two?" yeah, same line of TVPA(TM) - what's the point of that one too?}} How dense can you be not to see that? {that wasn't so hard, there might something there, maybe just rolling with it is the way to go.} I'm tired too - maybe spending more happy time in The Thread is needed. All balm shall be found in The Thread and the number shall be 17q5x. So it is written - eventually. But it's too much like Bonfire, you kinda throw up a little every time you go there. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4WayXena 0 #481 February 28, 2006 I've just browsed thru the flamewar that is this posting about the Rainbow Boogie and I am saddened. No matter what, we are all human beings and we are ALL skydivers. Yes, the wording of the original poll is a bit skewed just as it is in other situations for all sorts of reasons - usually the result. And I would like to see the poll reposted with different wording and at least one or two more choices so we can all see a more objective answer. If Jeffrey isn't willing to do that, then maybe I will, just to play Devil's Advocate. To answer your question Jeffrey, in an unconfrontational manner as I possibly can, it's because we want to have a queer boogie. Why would we want to do that? Why not? Everyday I see myself as Kirsten, going thru Life as best I can with the tools and the knowledge I've discovered - just plain ol' everyday me. I just also happen to be a Sapphist, a skydiver, a leftie, a third generation Democrat who lives in Texas, and over 6 feet tall. So the world around me is definitely not built for who I am. I don't rail against it anymore but embrace all the things that make my journey worth taking. When I want to hang out with skydivers, I go to the DZ. When I want to hang out with queers, I go to the bar or call up my friends and we meet for dinner or a movie. But dearest Jeffrey, or anyone else reading this thread, have you ever been threatened for holding your sweetheart's hand in a movie theatre? Have you ever been chased down the street after leaving a bar? Have you ever had a malicious look thrown at you the first time you ever walked onto a DZ because everyone there knew, before you even arrived there, that you were gay? Have you ever been to Disney World on Gay Day when you can hold your sweetheart's hand walking down Main Street USA without some easily offended straight person threatening to call security? This boogie isn't about being separated from everyone else or even forcing the issue of "you must be tolerant of me or else." It's about fellowship, airtime and lots of beer drinking. Sounds like any other boogie to me. We just have to warn people, who find us to difficult to be around, not to show up that day. And to openly invite those who know what a wild ass time a bunch homos can be to pack up their stuff and meet us in Montreal. I am deeply saddened this thread has caused such a flamewar when there was no need. I'm not saying any side was right as we are all entitled to our opinion. It is, after all, Speaker's Corner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #482 February 28, 2006 Can I have a Bonfire moment here and say.. That was a really terrific post, well said.. I think I like you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #483 February 28, 2006 Thanks for that post. It can be easy to forget that this is a very real issue for some people, not just the latest silly argument here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #484 February 28, 2006 QuoteThis boogie isn't about being separated from everyone else or even forcing the issue of "you must be tolerant of me or else." It's about fellowship, airtime and lots of beer drinking. Sounds like any other boogie to me. We just have to warn people, who find us to difficult to be around, not to show up that day. And to openly invite those who know what a wild ass time a bunch homos can be to pack up their stuff and meet us in Montreal. And that's a very tempting invitation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jump8r 0 #485 February 28, 2006 Kristen, beautifully put. I'm with you sister xBlue ones, Neil Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #486 February 28, 2006 QuoteAnd that's a very tempting invitation. Yeah.. aint it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #487 February 28, 2006 QuoteHow about you stick to the topic of a given post dork? Why, that wouldn't be nearly as much self-righteous fun as picking a guy to dislike and then ripping on him every chance you get. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #488 February 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteOh wait. I'm wasting my time here. I forgot you ALWAYS ignore posts that actually ANSWER your questions. Silly me. "You... you... you... always... always... always..." And yet -- by ignoring all the answers to your original question AGAIN -- you prove me right. How about, I don't respect questions that come from you because you are only about trying to put me down, not discuss or debate issues with me, so please, by all means, hold your fucking breath waiting for my response. I should put as my #1 priority, "Reply to the question posed in contempt by some guy who has never met me but who clearly detests me and skirts the forum rules with a by to post personal attacks"? Yeah, right. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #489 February 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteIsn't this the second time someone raised the idea of the Pink Pistols as a specious and cynical attempt to confuse the issue between an advocacy group and a "gay gun show"? Can you not mentally separate the two? Try knowledge instead of ignorance sometime. Pink Pistols is gay people who go shooting together. Gay boogie is gay people who go chuting together. Looks like we have a match! Pink Pistols is gay people who advocate for gay people to protect their right to keep and bear arms. Has nothing to do with "going shooting together." And the claim, which you distorted into unrecognizability, was GAY GUN SHOWS were commensurate with gay boogies. Do try to not be disingenuous. Oh, what's that -- you were trying to be disingenuous, because that's the only way to support your point. Oh, okay. Carry on, I guess. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #490 February 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteIsn't this the second time someone raised the idea of the Pink Pistols as a specious and cynical attempt to confuse the issue between an advocacy group and a "gay gun show"? Can you not mentally separate the two? Try knowledge instead of ignorance sometime. Pink Pistols is gay people who go shooting together. Gay boogie is gay people who go chuting together. Looks like we have a match! That was a very nice way of bringing down to a level that all could easily understand. Well done. So, make that two who cannot mentally separate the two. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #491 February 28, 2006 QuoteNow, I know several gay skydivers. I also know that the gay games will be taking place. Why not take this knowledge, much like the gun knowledge, and apply it to an event. How about a gay boogie? The "gay games"? All I'm saying is that anyone who willfully separates him or herself along lines like sexual orientation loses their justification for being upset when others draw lines like that, and possibly exclude them from things, or even simply opt to dislike them. Let me ask you about these "gay games." If it's like an Olympics specifically for gay people or something, will they allow NON-avowed gay people to compete? And if so, what exactly makes it stay the "gay games"; and if not, how can you possibly defend this as not being discriminatory? --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #492 February 28, 2006 I think I like you, too. It's because you simply say what you mean, openly and sincerely, and without attack. There are a lot of people here who are not mature enough to reply to a thread they don't like, or a post they don't like, by simply stating what they disagree with and moving on. They go for the personal attack or the TVPA as the case may be. Some seem to think it makes them cool, even. Perhaps you ought to be less judgmental of me than I suspect you are being. I WANT TO BE IN A WORLD WHERE PEOPLE DON'T CREATE ARTIFICIAL DIVISIONS BETWEEN GROUPS FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER BUT THEN BITCH ABOUT BEING TREATED DIFFERENTLY. It may well be a chicken-or-the-egg question, but SOMEONE is gonna have to break the damned chain. I am utterly tolerant of gay people, black people, whatever people, despite having been accused of bigotry over and over here. I have gay friends, black friends, hispanic friends, handicapped friends, male friends, female friends, non-American-citizen friends... None of your complaints point to me; I have never "tsked" when I've seen gay people holding hands, kissing, etc. Never chased someone down an alley; never threatened a gay couple. My attitude is, "That's what they should be free to do!" when I see gay people just being people like anyone else. So it's about time people got off my back and stopped pretending they don't understand why I started the poll. I think it's a mistake to perpetuate feelings of division by constantly naming our divisions and paying attention and focus to them. And for expressing that, I got scorned and attacked. So much for the supposed fuckin' tolerance we owe each other. (I don't mean you, Xena, I mean the others who at this point wouldn't piss in my mouth if my teeth were on fire.) --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #493 February 28, 2006 >I WANT TO BE IN A WORLD WHERE PEOPLE DON'T CREATE > ARTIFICIAL DIVISIONS BETWEEN GROUPS FOR ONE REASON OR > ANOTHER . . . OTHER THAN THE DIVISIONS I LIKE Fixed that for you. Gay boogie - bad thing that causes divisions between skydivers. Chute and shoot - fun thing that makes everyone happy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GTAVercetti 0 #494 February 28, 2006 Did you hear that? It's little butterflies weeping. You give as you as you get, PJ. You are no martyr.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #495 February 28, 2006 QuoteDid you hear that? It's little butterflies weeping. You give as you as you get, PJ. You are no martyr. Your malicious sarcasm taints every single post you make to me. I may be no martyr, but I find I cannot respect a person who acts as you do, in alleged self-righteousness, no less. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GTAVercetti 0 #496 February 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteDid you hear that? It's little butterflies weeping. You give as you as you get, PJ. You are no martyr. Your malicious sarcasm taints every single post you make to me. I may be no martyr, but I find I cannot respect a person who acts as you do, in alleged self-righteousness, no less. - God, I really do not want to use the pot-kettle cliche. So I won't.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #497 February 28, 2006 GTA, PJ, cut it out. PJ, this is about your fourth warning. There will not be another. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #498 February 28, 2006 Quote>I WANT TO BE IN A WORLD WHERE PEOPLE DON'T CREATE > ARTIFICIAL DIVISIONS BETWEEN GROUPS FOR ONE REASON OR > ANOTHER . . . OTHER THAN THE DIVISIONS I LIKE Fixed that for you. Gay boogie - bad thing that causes divisions between skydivers. Chute and shoot - fun thing that makes everyone happy. I did not make a call for a Chute n Shoot. Someone else asked me on the spur of the moment if I would accept that. It is NOT an event that would be based on people's personal divisions and/or sexual orientation, or skin color, or anything else they cannot change. Anyone (who is not a felon) is free to pick up a gun and have some shooting fun, and unless you are truly an anti-gun bigot, you are not going to ridicule a person who opts to own guns the same way some ridicule gay people or blacks or immigrants, etc. Bill, once again you are not granting that you see a difference where there definitely is a difference. For the reason you claim applies that I should be just as against Chute n Shoot, I should be against any plain old "let's get together to skydive" day, because we'd be doing something that others don't do. Hell, I should be against going to see a waterskiing demonstration for that reason, too. And against going to an antiques show, because not everyone is doing that, either. Chute n Shoot would not discriminate between people of different characteristic makeups. Oh, guns owners and non-gun-owners, maybe? Well, anyone can decide to be a gun owner (if the law allows, so that leaves out minors, drug addicts, felons, and the insane. Sorry). It's not exclusionary. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #499 February 28, 2006 Why has your girlfriend gone to a dropzone a couple of times, despite the fact that she doesn't skydive while there? Why would you be interested in going to a Chute-and-Shoot? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shotgun 1 #500 February 28, 2006 QuoteI did not make a call for a Chute n Shoot. Someone else asked me on the spur of the moment if I would accept that. It is NOT an event that would be based on people's personal divisions People who like guns/Anti-gun people... seems like a personal division to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 Next Page 20 of 23 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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jump8r 0 #485 February 28, 2006 Kristen, beautifully put. I'm with you sister xBlue ones, Neil Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #486 February 28, 2006 QuoteAnd that's a very tempting invitation. Yeah.. aint it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #487 February 28, 2006 QuoteHow about you stick to the topic of a given post dork? Why, that wouldn't be nearly as much self-righteous fun as picking a guy to dislike and then ripping on him every chance you get. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #488 February 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteOh wait. I'm wasting my time here. I forgot you ALWAYS ignore posts that actually ANSWER your questions. Silly me. "You... you... you... always... always... always..." And yet -- by ignoring all the answers to your original question AGAIN -- you prove me right. How about, I don't respect questions that come from you because you are only about trying to put me down, not discuss or debate issues with me, so please, by all means, hold your fucking breath waiting for my response. I should put as my #1 priority, "Reply to the question posed in contempt by some guy who has never met me but who clearly detests me and skirts the forum rules with a by to post personal attacks"? Yeah, right. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #489 February 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteIsn't this the second time someone raised the idea of the Pink Pistols as a specious and cynical attempt to confuse the issue between an advocacy group and a "gay gun show"? Can you not mentally separate the two? Try knowledge instead of ignorance sometime. Pink Pistols is gay people who go shooting together. Gay boogie is gay people who go chuting together. Looks like we have a match! Pink Pistols is gay people who advocate for gay people to protect their right to keep and bear arms. Has nothing to do with "going shooting together." And the claim, which you distorted into unrecognizability, was GAY GUN SHOWS were commensurate with gay boogies. Do try to not be disingenuous. Oh, what's that -- you were trying to be disingenuous, because that's the only way to support your point. Oh, okay. Carry on, I guess. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #490 February 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteIsn't this the second time someone raised the idea of the Pink Pistols as a specious and cynical attempt to confuse the issue between an advocacy group and a "gay gun show"? Can you not mentally separate the two? Try knowledge instead of ignorance sometime. Pink Pistols is gay people who go shooting together. Gay boogie is gay people who go chuting together. Looks like we have a match! That was a very nice way of bringing down to a level that all could easily understand. Well done. So, make that two who cannot mentally separate the two. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #491 February 28, 2006 QuoteNow, I know several gay skydivers. I also know that the gay games will be taking place. Why not take this knowledge, much like the gun knowledge, and apply it to an event. How about a gay boogie? The "gay games"? All I'm saying is that anyone who willfully separates him or herself along lines like sexual orientation loses their justification for being upset when others draw lines like that, and possibly exclude them from things, or even simply opt to dislike them. Let me ask you about these "gay games." If it's like an Olympics specifically for gay people or something, will they allow NON-avowed gay people to compete? And if so, what exactly makes it stay the "gay games"; and if not, how can you possibly defend this as not being discriminatory? --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #492 February 28, 2006 I think I like you, too. It's because you simply say what you mean, openly and sincerely, and without attack. There are a lot of people here who are not mature enough to reply to a thread they don't like, or a post they don't like, by simply stating what they disagree with and moving on. They go for the personal attack or the TVPA as the case may be. Some seem to think it makes them cool, even. Perhaps you ought to be less judgmental of me than I suspect you are being. I WANT TO BE IN A WORLD WHERE PEOPLE DON'T CREATE ARTIFICIAL DIVISIONS BETWEEN GROUPS FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER BUT THEN BITCH ABOUT BEING TREATED DIFFERENTLY. It may well be a chicken-or-the-egg question, but SOMEONE is gonna have to break the damned chain. I am utterly tolerant of gay people, black people, whatever people, despite having been accused of bigotry over and over here. I have gay friends, black friends, hispanic friends, handicapped friends, male friends, female friends, non-American-citizen friends... None of your complaints point to me; I have never "tsked" when I've seen gay people holding hands, kissing, etc. Never chased someone down an alley; never threatened a gay couple. My attitude is, "That's what they should be free to do!" when I see gay people just being people like anyone else. So it's about time people got off my back and stopped pretending they don't understand why I started the poll. I think it's a mistake to perpetuate feelings of division by constantly naming our divisions and paying attention and focus to them. And for expressing that, I got scorned and attacked. So much for the supposed fuckin' tolerance we owe each other. (I don't mean you, Xena, I mean the others who at this point wouldn't piss in my mouth if my teeth were on fire.) --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #493 February 28, 2006 >I WANT TO BE IN A WORLD WHERE PEOPLE DON'T CREATE > ARTIFICIAL DIVISIONS BETWEEN GROUPS FOR ONE REASON OR > ANOTHER . . . OTHER THAN THE DIVISIONS I LIKE Fixed that for you. Gay boogie - bad thing that causes divisions between skydivers. Chute and shoot - fun thing that makes everyone happy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #494 February 28, 2006 Did you hear that? It's little butterflies weeping. You give as you as you get, PJ. You are no martyr.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #495 February 28, 2006 QuoteDid you hear that? It's little butterflies weeping. You give as you as you get, PJ. You are no martyr. Your malicious sarcasm taints every single post you make to me. I may be no martyr, but I find I cannot respect a person who acts as you do, in alleged self-righteousness, no less. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #496 February 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteDid you hear that? It's little butterflies weeping. You give as you as you get, PJ. You are no martyr. Your malicious sarcasm taints every single post you make to me. I may be no martyr, but I find I cannot respect a person who acts as you do, in alleged self-righteousness, no less. - God, I really do not want to use the pot-kettle cliche. So I won't.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #497 February 28, 2006 GTA, PJ, cut it out. PJ, this is about your fourth warning. There will not be another. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #498 February 28, 2006 Quote>I WANT TO BE IN A WORLD WHERE PEOPLE DON'T CREATE > ARTIFICIAL DIVISIONS BETWEEN GROUPS FOR ONE REASON OR > ANOTHER . . . OTHER THAN THE DIVISIONS I LIKE Fixed that for you. Gay boogie - bad thing that causes divisions between skydivers. Chute and shoot - fun thing that makes everyone happy. I did not make a call for a Chute n Shoot. Someone else asked me on the spur of the moment if I would accept that. It is NOT an event that would be based on people's personal divisions and/or sexual orientation, or skin color, or anything else they cannot change. Anyone (who is not a felon) is free to pick up a gun and have some shooting fun, and unless you are truly an anti-gun bigot, you are not going to ridicule a person who opts to own guns the same way some ridicule gay people or blacks or immigrants, etc. Bill, once again you are not granting that you see a difference where there definitely is a difference. For the reason you claim applies that I should be just as against Chute n Shoot, I should be against any plain old "let's get together to skydive" day, because we'd be doing something that others don't do. Hell, I should be against going to see a waterskiing demonstration for that reason, too. And against going to an antiques show, because not everyone is doing that, either. Chute n Shoot would not discriminate between people of different characteristic makeups. Oh, guns owners and non-gun-owners, maybe? Well, anyone can decide to be a gun owner (if the law allows, so that leaves out minors, drug addicts, felons, and the insane. Sorry). It's not exclusionary. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #499 February 28, 2006 Why has your girlfriend gone to a dropzone a couple of times, despite the fact that she doesn't skydive while there? Why would you be interested in going to a Chute-and-Shoot? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #500 February 28, 2006 QuoteI did not make a call for a Chute n Shoot. Someone else asked me on the spur of the moment if I would accept that. It is NOT an event that would be based on people's personal divisions People who like guns/Anti-gun people... seems like a personal division to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
