SkyDaemon 0 #101 February 22, 2006 Beautifully said Mark. :-) Cya there -=Raistlinfind / -name jumpers -print; cat jumpers $USER > manifest; cd /dev/airplane; more altitude; make jump; cd /pub; more beer; Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #102 February 22, 2006 I don't see ANY difference between this particular boogie and any other themed boogie. If POPS, JFTC and others can do it, why can't gays? Good for them, go for it.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #103 February 22, 2006 Quote(people say my gaydar don't really go "beep") Well, it could be beeping really loud ... it's not like you'd hear it. Seriously, thanks for a very well-stated summary of the "why" for this boogie (or, more appropriately, the "why the hell not"). I really really hope I can figure out a way to get there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites labrys 0 #104 February 22, 2006 ***c) want to encourage discrimination, unhappiness polygamy, and bestiality Don't forget polygamy. I have a quota to meet.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #105 February 22, 2006 QuoteI've got no problem with it at all, and in fact, as I've stated in Bonfire, if I can figure out a way to attend this one, I will. It sounds like a ton of fun, and that, in addition to good jumping opportunities, is why I choose boogies. But then again, I'm a self-professed fag hag, so I'll be among my people. A boogie is a collection of people getting together to skydive and have fun. I like the idea that there's a whole bunch of different types of boogies that I, as a skydiver, can choose from. There will always exist some for which I am not the target audience, but no one ever says I can't attend I guess my answer is kind of like your's with a bit of Shotgun's thrown in. Boogies are frequently about commonality. I like Lost Prairie. Do you know what I like about it? It's not just the view, it's not the weather, and it's not the airplanes. It's that it involves people that I want to hang out with and jump with...who are there for the same reason as me. That doesn't state it as clearly as I'd like, but basically what I'm getting at is that I KNOW there will be people there who share my interest in whooping it up in certain manners. I can understand women wanting to spend time boogying with other women, gays with other gays, hispanics with other hispanics, deaf jumpers with other deaf jumpers, etc. Sometimes, we want to be around people who we have more in common with than just skydiving as a hobby. Sometimes we don't...that's when I take off alone to a new DZ or boogie and see what the people are like there. PJ - I think what it boils down to is that boogies are not just about the skydiving. They're also about people. Sometimes we go to a particular event so we can do certain types of skydiving. Other times we go so we can skydive with certain types of people. I'm cool with either type, even though I may not be interested in all of them. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #106 February 22, 2006 QuoteI like Lost Prairie You CanadienPhile you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #107 February 22, 2006 QuoteMy qualm is that if I WANT to use the rainbow just because it's cool-lookin', it now inadvertently but unmistakably is seen as a pro-gay statement, which is not my intention but now cannot be avoided because of its established social association. So take it back. If you and like-minded individuals put rainbows on your cars just because you think they look cool, eventually people won't know what a rainbow on a car means. Personally, I wouldn't put one on my car regardless of what people will think. I thought rainbows looked kinda gay long before I knew of any "social assocation." Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Keith 0 #108 February 22, 2006 QuoteSo, do the people who organize it do so because they see a chance to sell jumps, gear and food/drink to a bunch of gay people (and/or their friends/family)? Or is it about gay pride? Or is it about putting an agenda in front of any media who might watch? Jeezus Jeffrey! It's as complicated and divisive as a bunch of gay people wanted to get together for a few days to jump. Nothing more nothing less.Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #109 February 22, 2006 QuoteNothing more nothing less Sureeee Keith... its gotta be some trick to surpress PJ and his ability to flaunt a rainbow on his car... Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #110 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteNothing more nothing less Sureeee Keith... its gotta be some trick to surpress PJ and his ability to flaunt a rainbow on his car... Actually I think the whole "and their straight friends" part of the invitation is clearly a ploy. They're going to entice us there and try to convert us. Oh, the horror. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #111 February 22, 2006 I bet all free straight guys get a free tandem.... QuoteThey're going to entice us there and try to convert us. Ya know I didnt really think Id want to go to a boogie so far away, but people like PJ make me want to go. I hate .... crap thats a PA so I will just have to leave it at that... I already got one warning today...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #112 February 22, 2006 QuoteActually I think the whole "and their straight friends" part of the invitation is clearly a ploy. They're going to entice us there and try to convert us Hmm in the other thread Sunshine said she wanted to go so she could stalk Keith... I wonder if Sunshine and I offered up a threesome with Keith... if there would be any traction there. As a confirmed fag hag.... and being somewhat open minded about uh sexuality in general..... This might be a fun place to go.. but DAYUM its soooo close to LP... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,099 #113 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote And you reminded me that I'm still pissed off that gays have commandeered the use of the image of a rainbow, which is a really cool thing, and now straight people can't use it as stickers on their cars and stuff because people will misconstrue it as being a statement that they're gay. - What rubbish! If you want a rainbow on your car, no-one or nothing is stopping you except your own bias and prejudice. Who made YOU King of the Universe, to tell anyone else what kind of boogie they should organize? You seem to really enjoy responding to things that aren't there, and also pretending that reality is not around us constantly. I never said I could not put a rainbow on my car, but I don't, because I don't want it to be seen as a statement that I'm gay when I'm not. And because gay people have "taken" that symbol, I am not entirely free to use it as a neutral symbol of, "Hey, this rainbow looks cool on my car" thing Big difference. You should look for it. - I have put in BOLD the place where you wrote about rainbow images that "straight people can't use it as stickers on their cars" . I have also bolded where you wrote "I never said I could not put a rainbow on my car". So if straight people can't use it but you don't think this applies to you, I can only conclude that you are indeed gay. Not that it's bad or anything. Whatever floats your boat.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RhondaLea 4 #114 February 22, 2006 QuoteBeautifully said Mark. :-) Cya there And I may see you there. It's not that far from where I'll be living (7 hours or so), so I may just drive up for the pleasure of the company. I think it's going to be wonderful. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #115 February 22, 2006 Quoteand may well alienate others (those who are not comfortable with homosexuality, perhaps), There's aspects of most boogies that some subset of skydivers are uncomfortable with. There's teetotalers who skydive. They may not be comfortable with the amount of drinking that goes on at boogies. They might even feel alienated. There's people with strong moral convictions against premarital sex. They may not be comfortable with the level of sexual behavior and hookups that go on at most boogies. They might even feel alienated. No boogie is going to be right for everyone, but they're pretty much all open to everyone to choose whether they want to attend or not (license requirements notwithstanding, and even then, people who don't meet the requirements can attend, they just can't jump). That's why I think it's great that there's so many to choose from depending on where we live, how far we're able to travel, what kind of crowds (or lack thereof) we're looking for, what kind of skydiving we like to do, what kind of aircraft we want to jump, what kind of people we want (or don't want) to jump with and hang out with. And the best part is that if there's not one already in existence that fits you perfectly, well, hell, you can start one. All it takes is some energy and motivation (such as the type that Mark has clearly demonstrated) to identify a potential boogie idea, find a dropzone willing to host it, and put in the sweat equity necessary to organize it. Why, I'd bet if you wanted to have a boogie for people who share your political beliefs, you could find a DZ willing to host it. Think how fun that would be - it could be like Speakers' Corner Live, except that you could make it so it was geared towards people who shared your political beliefs, so you wouldn't have to deal with those troublesome idiots who don't see your way of thinking. Sure, some of those on the "other side" might show up and try to ruin your weekend, but chances are, they'd just say "well, that's cool... it's not geared towards me so I'll probably just skip that boogie and find another one that fits better for me." Or they could just bitch about it online. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #116 February 22, 2006 QuoteWhy, I'd bet if you wanted to have a boogie for people who share your political beliefs, you could find a DZ willing to host it. I nominate Skydive Eagle Creek for that one.... SPOT ON. PJ would love it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AMax 0 #117 February 22, 2006 Quote At least you didn't have to watch the (hetero) russians in speedos walking around all day in Can someone please explain to me, what is wrong with speedos? For example, I can buy speedos at swimming section of any big American sportswear store, but if I show up wearing them at public swimming pool, I get all this strange looks. For a woman, wearing tight bikinis is perfectly acceptable. Why it is not appropriate for a man to wear speedos? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #118 February 22, 2006 QuoteCan someone please explain to me, what is wrong with speedos? For example, I can buy speedos at swimming section of any big American sportswear store, but if I show up wearing them at public swimming pool, I get all this strange looks. For a woman, wearing tight bikinis is perfectly acceptable. Why it is not appropriate for a man to wear speedos? Basically for the same reason you would NOT want to see me in a bikini Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stevebabin 0 #119 February 22, 2006 QuoteFor a woman, wearing tight bikinis is perfectly acceptable. Why it is not appropriate for a man to wear speedos? Um....Because women are beautiful and men aren't?"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AMax 0 #120 February 22, 2006 Quote Basically for the same reason you would NOT want to see me in a bikini Let me decide for myself besides, there is always a possibility that someone will find you pretty Seriously, if speedos are designed for swimming, why can I not use them for swimming in public places? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #121 February 22, 2006 Because, just like micro-bikinis, unless you're a model, it's impossible to look good in them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AMax 0 #122 February 22, 2006 Oh ... i don't go to the swimming pool to model, I go there to swim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #123 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuote I knit. I make hemp necklaces. I mostly go barefoot or in flipflops when I have to, and I wear a silver toe-ring. I talk a mile-a-minute about movies and anything else that comes to mind. I'm a sweet person ... ...I like colors, and I like bright combinations of them. Psst..Jeff...I've got news for you: You're gay. LOL!!! LMFAO!!!! --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #124 February 22, 2006 QuoteWhere does the 'no straights allowed' concept come in? To me "Gay Boogie" means "Boogie with lots of gay people and the straight people who like them. All others consider yourselves informed and uninvited if this event offends you" What's the big freaking deal? Actually, "Gay Boogie" should simply mean "HAPPY Boogie," but the faggots stole the word GAY on us, too! --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #125 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteand it made me wonder why such a thing is even necessary It's probably not necessary, but they just might want a break from the closed-minded idiots that they may encounter in their typical weekend skydiving. I'd like it if the gay people who are reading here would post about experiences (maybe a new thread?) at dropzones where they were given a hassle, or a lack of welcome, because people there knew they were gay. I have not seen it. I want to know if it's happening, or not. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Next Page 5 of 23 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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labrys 0 #104 February 22, 2006 ***c) want to encourage discrimination, unhappiness polygamy, and bestiality Don't forget polygamy. I have a quota to meet.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #105 February 22, 2006 QuoteI've got no problem with it at all, and in fact, as I've stated in Bonfire, if I can figure out a way to attend this one, I will. It sounds like a ton of fun, and that, in addition to good jumping opportunities, is why I choose boogies. But then again, I'm a self-professed fag hag, so I'll be among my people. A boogie is a collection of people getting together to skydive and have fun. I like the idea that there's a whole bunch of different types of boogies that I, as a skydiver, can choose from. There will always exist some for which I am not the target audience, but no one ever says I can't attend I guess my answer is kind of like your's with a bit of Shotgun's thrown in. Boogies are frequently about commonality. I like Lost Prairie. Do you know what I like about it? It's not just the view, it's not the weather, and it's not the airplanes. It's that it involves people that I want to hang out with and jump with...who are there for the same reason as me. That doesn't state it as clearly as I'd like, but basically what I'm getting at is that I KNOW there will be people there who share my interest in whooping it up in certain manners. I can understand women wanting to spend time boogying with other women, gays with other gays, hispanics with other hispanics, deaf jumpers with other deaf jumpers, etc. Sometimes, we want to be around people who we have more in common with than just skydiving as a hobby. Sometimes we don't...that's when I take off alone to a new DZ or boogie and see what the people are like there. PJ - I think what it boils down to is that boogies are not just about the skydiving. They're also about people. Sometimes we go to a particular event so we can do certain types of skydiving. Other times we go so we can skydive with certain types of people. I'm cool with either type, even though I may not be interested in all of them. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #106 February 22, 2006 QuoteI like Lost Prairie You CanadienPhile you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #107 February 22, 2006 QuoteMy qualm is that if I WANT to use the rainbow just because it's cool-lookin', it now inadvertently but unmistakably is seen as a pro-gay statement, which is not my intention but now cannot be avoided because of its established social association. So take it back. If you and like-minded individuals put rainbows on your cars just because you think they look cool, eventually people won't know what a rainbow on a car means. Personally, I wouldn't put one on my car regardless of what people will think. I thought rainbows looked kinda gay long before I knew of any "social assocation." Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #108 February 22, 2006 QuoteSo, do the people who organize it do so because they see a chance to sell jumps, gear and food/drink to a bunch of gay people (and/or their friends/family)? Or is it about gay pride? Or is it about putting an agenda in front of any media who might watch? Jeezus Jeffrey! It's as complicated and divisive as a bunch of gay people wanted to get together for a few days to jump. Nothing more nothing less.Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #109 February 22, 2006 QuoteNothing more nothing less Sureeee Keith... its gotta be some trick to surpress PJ and his ability to flaunt a rainbow on his car... Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #110 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteNothing more nothing less Sureeee Keith... its gotta be some trick to surpress PJ and his ability to flaunt a rainbow on his car... Actually I think the whole "and their straight friends" part of the invitation is clearly a ploy. They're going to entice us there and try to convert us. Oh, the horror. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #111 February 22, 2006 I bet all free straight guys get a free tandem.... QuoteThey're going to entice us there and try to convert us. Ya know I didnt really think Id want to go to a boogie so far away, but people like PJ make me want to go. I hate .... crap thats a PA so I will just have to leave it at that... I already got one warning today...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #112 February 22, 2006 QuoteActually I think the whole "and their straight friends" part of the invitation is clearly a ploy. They're going to entice us there and try to convert us Hmm in the other thread Sunshine said she wanted to go so she could stalk Keith... I wonder if Sunshine and I offered up a threesome with Keith... if there would be any traction there. As a confirmed fag hag.... and being somewhat open minded about uh sexuality in general..... This might be a fun place to go.. but DAYUM its soooo close to LP... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,099 #113 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote And you reminded me that I'm still pissed off that gays have commandeered the use of the image of a rainbow, which is a really cool thing, and now straight people can't use it as stickers on their cars and stuff because people will misconstrue it as being a statement that they're gay. - What rubbish! If you want a rainbow on your car, no-one or nothing is stopping you except your own bias and prejudice. Who made YOU King of the Universe, to tell anyone else what kind of boogie they should organize? You seem to really enjoy responding to things that aren't there, and also pretending that reality is not around us constantly. I never said I could not put a rainbow on my car, but I don't, because I don't want it to be seen as a statement that I'm gay when I'm not. And because gay people have "taken" that symbol, I am not entirely free to use it as a neutral symbol of, "Hey, this rainbow looks cool on my car" thing Big difference. You should look for it. - I have put in BOLD the place where you wrote about rainbow images that "straight people can't use it as stickers on their cars" . I have also bolded where you wrote "I never said I could not put a rainbow on my car". So if straight people can't use it but you don't think this applies to you, I can only conclude that you are indeed gay. Not that it's bad or anything. Whatever floats your boat.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RhondaLea 4 #114 February 22, 2006 QuoteBeautifully said Mark. :-) Cya there And I may see you there. It's not that far from where I'll be living (7 hours or so), so I may just drive up for the pleasure of the company. I think it's going to be wonderful. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #115 February 22, 2006 Quoteand may well alienate others (those who are not comfortable with homosexuality, perhaps), There's aspects of most boogies that some subset of skydivers are uncomfortable with. There's teetotalers who skydive. They may not be comfortable with the amount of drinking that goes on at boogies. They might even feel alienated. There's people with strong moral convictions against premarital sex. They may not be comfortable with the level of sexual behavior and hookups that go on at most boogies. They might even feel alienated. No boogie is going to be right for everyone, but they're pretty much all open to everyone to choose whether they want to attend or not (license requirements notwithstanding, and even then, people who don't meet the requirements can attend, they just can't jump). That's why I think it's great that there's so many to choose from depending on where we live, how far we're able to travel, what kind of crowds (or lack thereof) we're looking for, what kind of skydiving we like to do, what kind of aircraft we want to jump, what kind of people we want (or don't want) to jump with and hang out with. And the best part is that if there's not one already in existence that fits you perfectly, well, hell, you can start one. All it takes is some energy and motivation (such as the type that Mark has clearly demonstrated) to identify a potential boogie idea, find a dropzone willing to host it, and put in the sweat equity necessary to organize it. Why, I'd bet if you wanted to have a boogie for people who share your political beliefs, you could find a DZ willing to host it. Think how fun that would be - it could be like Speakers' Corner Live, except that you could make it so it was geared towards people who shared your political beliefs, so you wouldn't have to deal with those troublesome idiots who don't see your way of thinking. Sure, some of those on the "other side" might show up and try to ruin your weekend, but chances are, they'd just say "well, that's cool... it's not geared towards me so I'll probably just skip that boogie and find another one that fits better for me." Or they could just bitch about it online. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #116 February 22, 2006 QuoteWhy, I'd bet if you wanted to have a boogie for people who share your political beliefs, you could find a DZ willing to host it. I nominate Skydive Eagle Creek for that one.... SPOT ON. PJ would love it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AMax 0 #117 February 22, 2006 Quote At least you didn't have to watch the (hetero) russians in speedos walking around all day in Can someone please explain to me, what is wrong with speedos? For example, I can buy speedos at swimming section of any big American sportswear store, but if I show up wearing them at public swimming pool, I get all this strange looks. For a woman, wearing tight bikinis is perfectly acceptable. Why it is not appropriate for a man to wear speedos? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #118 February 22, 2006 QuoteCan someone please explain to me, what is wrong with speedos? For example, I can buy speedos at swimming section of any big American sportswear store, but if I show up wearing them at public swimming pool, I get all this strange looks. For a woman, wearing tight bikinis is perfectly acceptable. Why it is not appropriate for a man to wear speedos? Basically for the same reason you would NOT want to see me in a bikini Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stevebabin 0 #119 February 22, 2006 QuoteFor a woman, wearing tight bikinis is perfectly acceptable. Why it is not appropriate for a man to wear speedos? Um....Because women are beautiful and men aren't?"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AMax 0 #120 February 22, 2006 Quote Basically for the same reason you would NOT want to see me in a bikini Let me decide for myself besides, there is always a possibility that someone will find you pretty Seriously, if speedos are designed for swimming, why can I not use them for swimming in public places? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #121 February 22, 2006 Because, just like micro-bikinis, unless you're a model, it's impossible to look good in them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AMax 0 #122 February 22, 2006 Oh ... i don't go to the swimming pool to model, I go there to swim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #123 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuote I knit. I make hemp necklaces. I mostly go barefoot or in flipflops when I have to, and I wear a silver toe-ring. I talk a mile-a-minute about movies and anything else that comes to mind. I'm a sweet person ... ...I like colors, and I like bright combinations of them. Psst..Jeff...I've got news for you: You're gay. LOL!!! LMFAO!!!! --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #124 February 22, 2006 QuoteWhere does the 'no straights allowed' concept come in? To me "Gay Boogie" means "Boogie with lots of gay people and the straight people who like them. All others consider yourselves informed and uninvited if this event offends you" What's the big freaking deal? Actually, "Gay Boogie" should simply mean "HAPPY Boogie," but the faggots stole the word GAY on us, too! --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #125 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteand it made me wonder why such a thing is even necessary It's probably not necessary, but they just might want a break from the closed-minded idiots that they may encounter in their typical weekend skydiving. I'd like it if the gay people who are reading here would post about experiences (maybe a new thread?) at dropzones where they were given a hassle, or a lack of welcome, because people there knew they were gay. I have not seen it. I want to know if it's happening, or not. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Next Page 5 of 23 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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RhondaLea 4 #114 February 22, 2006 QuoteBeautifully said Mark. :-) Cya there And I may see you there. It's not that far from where I'll be living (7 hours or so), so I may just drive up for the pleasure of the company. I think it's going to be wonderful. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #115 February 22, 2006 Quoteand may well alienate others (those who are not comfortable with homosexuality, perhaps), There's aspects of most boogies that some subset of skydivers are uncomfortable with. There's teetotalers who skydive. They may not be comfortable with the amount of drinking that goes on at boogies. They might even feel alienated. There's people with strong moral convictions against premarital sex. They may not be comfortable with the level of sexual behavior and hookups that go on at most boogies. They might even feel alienated. No boogie is going to be right for everyone, but they're pretty much all open to everyone to choose whether they want to attend or not (license requirements notwithstanding, and even then, people who don't meet the requirements can attend, they just can't jump). That's why I think it's great that there's so many to choose from depending on where we live, how far we're able to travel, what kind of crowds (or lack thereof) we're looking for, what kind of skydiving we like to do, what kind of aircraft we want to jump, what kind of people we want (or don't want) to jump with and hang out with. And the best part is that if there's not one already in existence that fits you perfectly, well, hell, you can start one. All it takes is some energy and motivation (such as the type that Mark has clearly demonstrated) to identify a potential boogie idea, find a dropzone willing to host it, and put in the sweat equity necessary to organize it. Why, I'd bet if you wanted to have a boogie for people who share your political beliefs, you could find a DZ willing to host it. Think how fun that would be - it could be like Speakers' Corner Live, except that you could make it so it was geared towards people who shared your political beliefs, so you wouldn't have to deal with those troublesome idiots who don't see your way of thinking. Sure, some of those on the "other side" might show up and try to ruin your weekend, but chances are, they'd just say "well, that's cool... it's not geared towards me so I'll probably just skip that boogie and find another one that fits better for me." Or they could just bitch about it online. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #116 February 22, 2006 QuoteWhy, I'd bet if you wanted to have a boogie for people who share your political beliefs, you could find a DZ willing to host it. I nominate Skydive Eagle Creek for that one.... SPOT ON. PJ would love it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #117 February 22, 2006 Quote At least you didn't have to watch the (hetero) russians in speedos walking around all day in Can someone please explain to me, what is wrong with speedos? For example, I can buy speedos at swimming section of any big American sportswear store, but if I show up wearing them at public swimming pool, I get all this strange looks. For a woman, wearing tight bikinis is perfectly acceptable. Why it is not appropriate for a man to wear speedos? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #118 February 22, 2006 QuoteCan someone please explain to me, what is wrong with speedos? For example, I can buy speedos at swimming section of any big American sportswear store, but if I show up wearing them at public swimming pool, I get all this strange looks. For a woman, wearing tight bikinis is perfectly acceptable. Why it is not appropriate for a man to wear speedos? Basically for the same reason you would NOT want to see me in a bikini Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #119 February 22, 2006 QuoteFor a woman, wearing tight bikinis is perfectly acceptable. Why it is not appropriate for a man to wear speedos? Um....Because women are beautiful and men aren't?"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #120 February 22, 2006 Quote Basically for the same reason you would NOT want to see me in a bikini Let me decide for myself besides, there is always a possibility that someone will find you pretty Seriously, if speedos are designed for swimming, why can I not use them for swimming in public places? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #121 February 22, 2006 Because, just like micro-bikinis, unless you're a model, it's impossible to look good in them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #122 February 22, 2006 Oh ... i don't go to the swimming pool to model, I go there to swim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #123 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuote I knit. I make hemp necklaces. I mostly go barefoot or in flipflops when I have to, and I wear a silver toe-ring. I talk a mile-a-minute about movies and anything else that comes to mind. I'm a sweet person ... ...I like colors, and I like bright combinations of them. Psst..Jeff...I've got news for you: You're gay. LOL!!! LMFAO!!!! --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #124 February 22, 2006 QuoteWhere does the 'no straights allowed' concept come in? To me "Gay Boogie" means "Boogie with lots of gay people and the straight people who like them. All others consider yourselves informed and uninvited if this event offends you" What's the big freaking deal? Actually, "Gay Boogie" should simply mean "HAPPY Boogie," but the faggots stole the word GAY on us, too! --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #125 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteand it made me wonder why such a thing is even necessary It's probably not necessary, but they just might want a break from the closed-minded idiots that they may encounter in their typical weekend skydiving. I'd like it if the gay people who are reading here would post about experiences (maybe a new thread?) at dropzones where they were given a hassle, or a lack of welcome, because people there knew they were gay. I have not seen it. I want to know if it's happening, or not. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
