Guest #1 February 25, 2006 Even the SLDN won't touch them. Story Here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #2 February 25, 2006 You're just pissed they rejected your application Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #3 February 25, 2006 Quote Even the SLDN won't touch them. Why would they? This isn't about "gay," it's about taking money for sex. I can't see how these guys could've been any dumber. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakyrat 1 #4 February 25, 2006 Last year I heard a speech given by a female retired U.S. Army General reference to support in repealing D.A.D.T. Clearly she stated that if D.A.D.T. was repealed that "you don't bring sex back to the barracks and don't engage in conduct that is unbecoming of your military role regardless if your gay or straight or whatever. These fools by their action clearly were in violation of Article 131, the so called catch-all Article of the UCMJ regardless of sexual orientation issues and do not deserve any help from SLDN whatsoever and deserve the punishment that is handed out to them. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #5 February 25, 2006 yeah well I am personally glad not be sharing a fighting position with them. I don't care if a man is gay I just don't want to have them think about doing something other than their duty. The real shame is that the Army, and the 82nd Airborne now have this shit hanging over their heads like a hard dick!, no matter what the outcome it just isn't going to be good! I would have had them courtmartialed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #6 February 26, 2006 Quote Quote Even the SLDN won't touch them. Why would they? This isn't about "gay," it's about taking money for sex. I can't see how these guys could've been any dumber. rl What? As a "Protected Class", don't they have the right to do whatever they want? I mean, everybody knows the little darlings just can't help themselves, right? mh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #7 February 26, 2006 Quote What? As a "Protected Class", don't they have the right to do whatever they want? I mean, everybody knows the little darlings just can't help themselves, right? mh Give it up, Mark. This thread was a loser from the start. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkins121 0 #8 February 26, 2006 Being a veteran of the 82nd I really do not find this funny. Now whenever someone hears about the 82nd all they will think about is this incident. The Airborne is the epitome of manhood. This retarded situation will change that outlook. I dont care if you were 101, 82 or anywhere in the 18th airborne corps.. Anytime anyone says Airborne you will be associated with these guys... Hopefully they get kicked out before guys from other PIR's conduct an operation to their barracks and break a few limbs. I dont want to see any real Airborne guys get in trouble protecting the reputation of Americas Guard of Honor. k i'm off my soapbox now... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #9 February 26, 2006 Quote yeah well I am personally glad not be sharing a fighting position with them. I don't care if a man is gay I just don't want to have them think about doing something other than their duty. I may have misunderstood your use of "fighting position" so I've got to ask...how in the world would anyone (male/female, heterosexual/homosexual) be thinking anything other than saving their asses and not getting shot if they are in a "fighting position"? Personally...I can't see how someone would be having sexual thoughts with bullets whizzing by them.Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #10 February 26, 2006 well since they dont seem to be capable of thinking in the first place I see your point!! My point is that they were twisted enough to do that shit and post it on the web then didn't THINK about the aftermath...non thinkers get you killed...they don't need to be Einstein, just capable of remotely considering actions and outcomes. BTW did you know there is a war going on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkins121 0 #11 February 26, 2006 Quote Quote yeah well I am personally glad not be sharing a fighting position with them. I don't care if a man is gay I just don't want to have them think about doing something other than their duty. I may have misunderstood your use of "fighting position" so I've got to ask...how in the world would anyone (male/female, heterosexual/homosexual) be thinking anything other than saving their asses and not getting shot if they are in a "fighting position"? Personally...I can't see how someone would be having sexual thoughts with bullets whizzing by them. You cannot have the distraction of sexual relationships in a combat arms outfit. It would cause to many problems. Which is why the rules are the way they are. Its pretty much impossible to fully explain why unless you have been in that sort of an environment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #12 February 26, 2006 wasn't integrated basic invented by Bill Clinton? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkins121 0 #13 February 26, 2006 I'm not really sure but it was a very bad idea... Pregnancies... recruits fornicating in stairwells.. They would focus more on trying to bang the person next to them than learning how the claymore mine works... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 2 #14 February 27, 2006 Quote Being a veteran of the 82nd I really do not find this funny. Now whenever someone hears about the 82nd all they will think about is this incident. I'd be very surprised if, a few years from now, this incident is even remembered by anyone other than people who's entire agenda is defined by being anti-gay. Like those idiots who disrupt military funerals. I understand being outraged by these soldiers' actions but in the long run I doubt it will affect the legacy of the 82nd. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #15 February 27, 2006 geez what would they want to know which end of an M17 is the business end for? J/K Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #16 February 27, 2006 You know, you always makes those jokes...but then when it's the Army instead of the Navy, you just wonder what went wrong w/ the world Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hackb431 0 #17 February 27, 2006 Kinda reminds me of Alexander the Great here. The elite fighting force of a nation and wow there are homosexuals.....Been hapening since the begining of time but now you just hear about it more. No worries I was in the XVIII corp, I knew a very homosexual guys in the Infantry unit. 3 to be exact. 1 I would not want anywhere near me due to his incompetence but the other 2 could "get my back any day" <-------staright guy making a gay joke to lighten the mood!HackB A.K.A. "Puppy" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
britboynz 0 #18 February 28, 2006 Anyone know where we can get a copy? maybe we'll have a special screening at the rainbow boogie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #19 February 28, 2006 Quote Kinda reminds me of Alexander the Great here. The elite fighting force of a nation and wow there are homosexuals.....Been hapening since the begining of time but now you just hear about it more. No worries I was in the XVIII corp, I knew a very homosexual guys in the Infantry unit. 3 to be exact. 1 I would not want anywhere near me due to his incompetence but the other 2 could "get my back any day" <-------staright guy making a gay joke to lighten the mood! I too was aware the some guys I served with were gay but I wouldn't have wanted 2 of them anywhere near me due to incompetence as well...but otherwise anyone else gay was fine ...except one gay female Captain that was my commander in the 7th INF! OH how she loved parades she was a man hater and a bulldyke at best Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sneaky 0 #20 February 28, 2006 I know a few Gay Soldiers and these guys are very aggressive fighters, being a good soldier is nothing to do with your sexuality, the gays I knew are good at their jobs. Probaly the hardest I have ever been knocked out is by a 95kg lesbian girl sailor on a dance floor after I smiled at her girlfriend. Broke my nose and sent me flying about 10 meters, and a headache for 3 days after..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briguy 0 #21 February 28, 2006 Quote The Airborne is the epitome of manhood. this statement is the epitome of ignorance. doing 5 static line jumps doesn't make you a man or more manly. all U.S. service members bleed the same color and deserve the same respect regardless of unit affiliation, branch of service, race, religious affiliation or gender. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #22 February 28, 2006 I think it is more of an attitude that is associated with the Airborne heritage than the 5 jumps. Not to long ago it was more "manly" to be Airborne and it even got "manlier" as you added Airborne, then Ranger then Special Forces, etc. etc. Just clearing up the Manhood comment, not debating the what makes a man theory.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briguy 0 #23 February 28, 2006 Quote I think it is more of a brainwashing that is associated with the Airborne heritage than the 5 jumps. i fixed it for you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #24 February 28, 2006 I was not trying to get into a pissing contest with the uniformed. I was trying to explian the attitude that was being explained. It is hard to do with one who is biased and unable to understand how pride and ego make one act, even though it affects them just as much, maybe not in a "defender of freedom" kind of way but a "user of freedom" kind of way. Go ahead and bash and ban.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #25 March 1, 2006 Quote I think it is more of a brainwashing that is associated with the Airborne heritage than the 5 jumps. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i fixed it for you. No unfortunatly you did not fix it. Until you go thru it you just would never understand.... its about esprit de corp.. its about tradition...its about duty.... and yes its about honor. Try it...it does make a huge difference to many who go thru that crucible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
