mnealtx 0 #26 March 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteI think it is more of a brainwashing that is associated with the Airborne heritage than the 5 jumps. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i fixed it for you. No unfortunatly you did not fix it. Until you go thru it you just would never understand.... its about esprit de corp.. its about tradition...its about duty.... and yes its about honor. Try it...it does make a huge difference to many who go thru that crucible. Well said, Jeanne!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkins121 0 #27 March 1, 2006 QuoteQuote The Airborne is the epitome of manhood. this statement is the epitome of ignorance. doing 5 static line jumps doesn't make you a man or more manly. all U.S. service members bleed the same color and deserve the same respect regardless of unit affiliation, branch of service, race, religious affiliation or gender. Its not the jumps... and whether you like it or not service members get different levels of respect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #28 March 1, 2006 Damn I sure am glad I only washed floors!!! carrrying a rifle and other shit scares me to death! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briguy 0 #29 March 1, 2006 Quote Until you go thru it [the brainwashing] you just would never understand.... its about esprit de corp.. its about tradition...its about duty.... and yes its about honor. fixed again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briguy 0 #30 March 1, 2006 Quote and whether you like it or not service members get different levels of respect. this is absurd... a Coast Guard service member deserves just as must respect and recognition as a SEAL. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #31 March 1, 2006 A position taken out of ignorance is invalid. Perhaps if you would serve your country.. you might understand that better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #32 March 1, 2006 QuoteA position taken out of ignorance is invalid. Perhaps if you would serve your country.. you might understand that better. hey Amazon...briguy did serve! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #33 March 1, 2006 Must be a pretty bitter leg then.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briguy 0 #34 March 1, 2006 QuoteMust be a pretty bitter leg then.... classify me as you will, leg is about insulting as calling me a cracker. your elitist position is laughable. combined arms actions are the way of the modern battlefield. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkins121 0 #35 March 1, 2006 QuoteMust be a pretty bitter leg then.... QFT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkins121 0 #36 March 1, 2006 Sorry bud... Airforce computer guys that sign up for college money do not and should not get the kind of respect the Airborne does... Hell, same goes for most Leg units in the Army... Does it not make more sense getting more respect being in an elite outfit with a battle hardened history? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #37 March 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteMust be a pretty bitter leg then.... classify me as you will, leg is about insulting as calling me a cracker. your elitist position is laughable. combined arms actions are the way of the modern battlefield. Scenario change: OK, I checked your profile... your wingloading is WAY too heavy for your jump numbers.... What do you mean, I'm not qualified to give you advice? I'm a skydiver, so my advice is equally as valid as billvon/skybytch/etc....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #38 March 1, 2006 I don't know, you would look pretty damn stupid jumping out of a plane over the wrong country cause that computer guy wasn't doing his job right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkins121 0 #39 March 1, 2006 QuoteI don't know, you would look pretty damn stupid jumping out of a plane over the wrong country cause that computer guy wasn't doing his job right. ah, how i've missed the way legs talk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #40 March 1, 2006 Quoteah, how i've missed the way legs talk. You'll have to explain that to me, cause I don't know your jargon. But if you think the fighting soldiers would have the same overpowering advantage they have now without all the technological advances made possible by those "computer guys" then you may have hit your head too many times on landing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites briguy 0 #41 March 1, 2006 Quote Does it not make more sense getting more respect being in an elite outfit with a battle hardened history? What makes a unit elite? I know your airborne brainwashing makes you say "my unit is the best"... but why is it better? I have just as much respect for the supply guy driving a deuce and a half through IED strewn roads as the 11b pulling crowd control at the latest mohammed cartoon uprising. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites briguy 0 #42 March 1, 2006 Quote Scenario change: OK, I checked your profile... your wingloading is WAY too heavy for your jump numbers.... What do you mean, I'm not qualified to give you advice? I'm a skydiver, so my advice is equally as valid as billvon/skybytch/etc.... you're right, it is a completely different scenario. you're talking about giving / taking advice. i'm talking about respect. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #43 March 1, 2006 Nope... same presumption - you wouldn't respect my advice because I don't have the same experience that you do, just as you don't understand the point that Amazon/Hawkins/MatthewCline are getting at. With that said - I *DO* understand the point that you are making. All of our armed forces deserve our respect for the job that they're out there doing, regardless of their rank or rate.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites briguy 0 #44 March 1, 2006 Quote... just as you don't understand the point that Amazon/Hawkins/MatthewCline are getting at. With that said - I *DO* understand the point that you are making. All of our armed forces deserve our respect for the job that they're out there doing, regardless of their rank or rate. you have partial understanding for my point. if you append branch of service and unit to your list, you're starting to get the point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #45 March 1, 2006 Like I said, I knew what you were getting at, but you're misunderstanding their point. There is definitely a pride and respect thing going on with that - a "nobody else does it OUR way" sort of feeling. It's not saying that other branches/MOS/AFSC/Rates aren't deserving of respect - I don't think you'll see ANY of the veterans here on the forums saying that - but more of a recognition of the EXTRA sacrifice and work that went into earning those special insignia.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites unformed 0 #46 March 1, 2006 QuoteLike I said, I knew what you were getting at, but you're misunderstanding their point. There is definitely a pride and respect thing going on with that - a "nobody else does it OUR way" sort of feeling. It's not saying that other branches/MOS/AFSC/Rates aren't deserving of respect - I don't think you'll see ANY of the veterans here on the forums saying that - but more of a recognition of the EXTRA sacrifice and work that went into earning those special insignia. No, see you just don't get it. They didn't put any EXTRA sacrifice and work into that insignia. It's just brainwashing. All of that extra training and running and everything. It was all brainwashing. That's it.This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites briguy 0 #47 March 1, 2006 Quote No, see you just don't get it. They didn't put any EXTRA sacrifice and work into that insignia. It's just brainwashing. All of that extra training and running and everything. It was all brainwashing. That's it. you also forgot all the happy airborne cadences. i know you're being facetious, but that is exactly the point. besides, unit assignments are just that... assignments. you don't get to pick what unit you get assigned to. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hawkins121 0 #48 March 1, 2006 QuoteQuote No, see you just don't get it. They didn't put any EXTRA sacrifice and work into that insignia. It's just brainwashing. All of that extra training and running and everything. It was all brainwashing. That's it. you also forgot all the happy airborne cadences. i know you're being facetious, but that is exactly the point. besides, unit assignments are just that... assignments. you don't get to pick what unit you get assigned to. Yes you can and you do.. You have to volunteer for the airborne... You can choose if you go to the 82nd or not. You can choose if you go to RIP and go to a ranger bat... You choose if you go to selection for SF. You cant choose what battalion or anything like that but you choose if you go to division. The airborne train and work harder than leg units... its a fact... the airborne are considered elite... so yes, they get more respect than your average truck driver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites briguy 0 #49 March 1, 2006 Quote The airborne train and work harder than leg units... its a fact... the airborne are considered elite by the brainwashed... so yes, they get more respect from the brainwashed than your average truck driver. someday you'll realize that it's all the same bs, you just took it way more seriously than everyone else. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #50 March 1, 2006 Man if you wrote "Brain washed" in SC as a joke you miss calculated. An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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briguy 0 #41 March 1, 2006 Quote Does it not make more sense getting more respect being in an elite outfit with a battle hardened history? What makes a unit elite? I know your airborne brainwashing makes you say "my unit is the best"... but why is it better? I have just as much respect for the supply guy driving a deuce and a half through IED strewn roads as the 11b pulling crowd control at the latest mohammed cartoon uprising. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briguy 0 #42 March 1, 2006 Quote Scenario change: OK, I checked your profile... your wingloading is WAY too heavy for your jump numbers.... What do you mean, I'm not qualified to give you advice? I'm a skydiver, so my advice is equally as valid as billvon/skybytch/etc.... you're right, it is a completely different scenario. you're talking about giving / taking advice. i'm talking about respect. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #43 March 1, 2006 Nope... same presumption - you wouldn't respect my advice because I don't have the same experience that you do, just as you don't understand the point that Amazon/Hawkins/MatthewCline are getting at. With that said - I *DO* understand the point that you are making. All of our armed forces deserve our respect for the job that they're out there doing, regardless of their rank or rate.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briguy 0 #44 March 1, 2006 Quote... just as you don't understand the point that Amazon/Hawkins/MatthewCline are getting at. With that said - I *DO* understand the point that you are making. All of our armed forces deserve our respect for the job that they're out there doing, regardless of their rank or rate. you have partial understanding for my point. if you append branch of service and unit to your list, you're starting to get the point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #45 March 1, 2006 Like I said, I knew what you were getting at, but you're misunderstanding their point. There is definitely a pride and respect thing going on with that - a "nobody else does it OUR way" sort of feeling. It's not saying that other branches/MOS/AFSC/Rates aren't deserving of respect - I don't think you'll see ANY of the veterans here on the forums saying that - but more of a recognition of the EXTRA sacrifice and work that went into earning those special insignia.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unformed 0 #46 March 1, 2006 QuoteLike I said, I knew what you were getting at, but you're misunderstanding their point. There is definitely a pride and respect thing going on with that - a "nobody else does it OUR way" sort of feeling. It's not saying that other branches/MOS/AFSC/Rates aren't deserving of respect - I don't think you'll see ANY of the veterans here on the forums saying that - but more of a recognition of the EXTRA sacrifice and work that went into earning those special insignia. No, see you just don't get it. They didn't put any EXTRA sacrifice and work into that insignia. It's just brainwashing. All of that extra training and running and everything. It was all brainwashing. That's it.This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briguy 0 #47 March 1, 2006 Quote No, see you just don't get it. They didn't put any EXTRA sacrifice and work into that insignia. It's just brainwashing. All of that extra training and running and everything. It was all brainwashing. That's it. you also forgot all the happy airborne cadences. i know you're being facetious, but that is exactly the point. besides, unit assignments are just that... assignments. you don't get to pick what unit you get assigned to. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkins121 0 #48 March 1, 2006 QuoteQuote No, see you just don't get it. They didn't put any EXTRA sacrifice and work into that insignia. It's just brainwashing. All of that extra training and running and everything. It was all brainwashing. That's it. you also forgot all the happy airborne cadences. i know you're being facetious, but that is exactly the point. besides, unit assignments are just that... assignments. you don't get to pick what unit you get assigned to. Yes you can and you do.. You have to volunteer for the airborne... You can choose if you go to the 82nd or not. You can choose if you go to RIP and go to a ranger bat... You choose if you go to selection for SF. You cant choose what battalion or anything like that but you choose if you go to division. The airborne train and work harder than leg units... its a fact... the airborne are considered elite... so yes, they get more respect than your average truck driver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briguy 0 #49 March 1, 2006 Quote The airborne train and work harder than leg units... its a fact... the airborne are considered elite by the brainwashed... so yes, they get more respect from the brainwashed than your average truck driver. someday you'll realize that it's all the same bs, you just took it way more seriously than everyone else. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #50 March 1, 2006 Man if you wrote "Brain washed" in SC as a joke you miss calculated. An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites