I'm this close <> to writing a letter!

[SkydiveStMarys 0]

I don't know what your problem is, but your pissing me off.

I DO support the teachers and facilty at my sons school..HELL I even substitute teach there.


I think this go around with the teachers concerning my son is a waste of time..THEIRS and his....there are much bigger fish to fry then to come down on a kid for singing a freakin' song.

I did talk to him about where and when he could sing..I even mentioned that in a previous post...I didn't just pat him on the back and say to him that they are being unfair...I don't "dis" the teachers in front of him...I tell him that the rules are the rules whether we like them or not...understand them or not.

Bobbi

A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude.

[FallinWoman 1]

Quote

there are much bigger fish to fry then to come down on a kid for singing a freakin' song.

I understand that there are bigger problems, but how can his teacher allow him to sing this song and not allow another student to sing SnoopDogg's "Drop It Like It's Hot?" Or Buffet's "Why Don't We Get Drunk and Screw?" (Or you could insert any number of other songs here)

I guess I do not see the problem with your son's school not wanting him to call other people names and not wanting him to sing about shooting a law enforcement officer. I would not allow either of those things in my classroom either. I might be able to deal with it myself, but I might not. I make that decision based on what is best for the whole class, not just one student.
As a teacher I can tell you that rules are easier to enforce and defend if you are consistent. If you start allowing some things and not others, it gets messy and parents and administrators have a hard time supporting you. You should be thankful that the school is teaching him when it is not appropriate to sing those kind of lyrics and that he shouldn't call people names.

~Anne

I'm a Doll!!!!

[Lindsey 0]

I understand that there are bigger problems, but how can his teacher allow him to sing this song and not allow another student to sing SnoopDogg's "Drop It Like It's Hot?" Or Buffet's "Why Don't We Get Drunk and Screw?" (Or you could insert any number of other songs here)

I think that's just silly. We all went to school, and we weren't turned into little clones of the model student. When we sang songs like, "Why don't we get drunk and screw...." the teacher would say things like, "Y'all. Stop it." But she really didn't mean it very often, because those were the songs we listened to.

What's important is that kids, while they DO have to learn that there are rules, also have to grow and develop. School should not stifle their social development so that they can teach math....or whatever.

--
A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

[skydivermom 0]

I don't have kids in public school, but my husband did teach high school for a little bit. He said it urked him how girls were allowed to walk down the hall with skirts that may as well have been washcloths, but he had to keep a tight reign on what was said in his classroom, for fear of someone getting offended. If he allowed a student to say/sing something that might offend another, he could get in trouble. He had to cover his own butt, even though the girls didn't have to cover theirs (literally)!

It was not like this when we were in school.

Mrs. WaltAppel

All things work together for good to them that love God...Romans 8:28

[FallinWoman 1]

I am nto suggesting that we turn all students into little clones. Nor would you see that if you walked into my classroom.
One of my biggest jobs is to teach kids how to behave properly in our society. I think we do them a great disservice by allowing them to swear, sing inappropriate songs, etc at school, when their employers will expect something different. I cuss like a sailor at home and at the DZ. I have a perfectly clean mouth at school. That is what I am trying to teach my students....that there is a time and place for certain behaviors. That does not mean they cannot be creative or individuals.

~Anne

I'm a Doll!!!!

[waltappel 1]

Quote

I am nto suggesting that we turn all students into little clones. Nor would you see that if you walked into my classroom.
One of my biggest jobs is to teach kids how to behave properly in our society. I think we do them a great disservice by allowing them to swear, sing inappropriate songs, etc at school, when their employers will expect something different. I cuss like a sailor at home and at the DZ. I have a perfectly clean mouth at school. That is what I am trying to teach my students....that there is a time and place for certain behaviors. That does not mean they cannot be creative or individuals.

First, whether I agree with your posts or not, I really like the way you express them! I think you must be a pretty decent teacher.
I think the real issue here is these days kids are being punished severely for things that only a few years ago fell into the category of "kids just being kids". Kids are a non-issue for me but I can understand parents' concern that these days, kids are no longer allowed the "luxury" of being kids. They are forced to fit into a very adult world much earlier in life and can be penalized harshly if they don't fit very well. I think Bobbi's main issue is that after all, her son *is* just a kid.

Walt

[JerryBaumchen 1,440]

Reminds me of an incident about 13 yrs ago. I was a single-parent with a 13 y/o boy & 19 y/o girl.

One day I get a call from the school informing me that they would like to talk to me. So, off to the schoold I go.

Seems as though they were serving hot dogs in cafeteria but no one was taking any. So the cooks began asking questions and one kid fessed-up; he said that Drew said that they were really serving donkey dick that day.

Drew and I had a little talk that evening.

Makes for a great laugh now when I tell his girlfriends that one.

[SkydiveStMarys 0]

My point is that I think its an over reaction to send a child down to the principals office for something like this....I'd much rather have the teacher "deal" with it then pass the buck to someone else.


Walt is right, sometimes a kid is just being a kid...thats my biggest pet peeve....when a kid acts like a kid and doesn't really have a motive for something hes doing other then he is just being a kid...lets face it this time...my child was singing a song, he just had a song in his heart/he was happy....as corny as that sounds and it was stiffled. That saddens me.

Bobbi

A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude.

[SkydiveStMarys 0]

"It was not like this when we were in school."


Ain't that the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Bobbi

A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude.

[skymedic 0]

yeah when I was in school we shut our mouths and followed directions.....

Instead of it being all about "me" like the current generations in school.

Marc

[ViperPilot 0]

This teacher can just go fuck herself. Tell her it's blatantly obvious your kid is doing nothing wrong and she is just overcome with PC idiocy. I'd tell her to shut the hell up or you're gonna make her life even more of a living hell than it already is. When you start complaining to the principle constantly about how she's being grossly unfair, he'll fall back on his PC bullshit and probably do something idiotic and rash against her...then everyone wins!