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The science of sexual orientation

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One last comment for this thread. When thinking about that which is really stupid, lets not forget about your avatar.
As a concealed handgun license holder, I take offense to the stupidity in your avatar.
I would not even draw my gun in the same room with my dogs for fear that they might jump toward it. Your avatar making a joke out pointing a gun at a cat displays extreme stupidity and poor taste.
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Bless your heart. You can't stop thinking "stupid." We're not thinking about what's stupid. You are. I'm just saying that often what we dislike most in others is really what we hate most about ourselves. If it's "stupid," then I'm sorry.

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"Variation in hormones" is neutral while "lack" is a value judgement. And if you don't consider homosexuality to be a pathology, then the very notion of "fixable" is a non-sequitur.



What?? Because there is some "normal" amount of hormonal exposure... using the word "lack" or "under-exposure" is a value judgement? So should we call starving people "varied in caloric intake" instead of "lacking in food" because they might feel bad that they "lack" something. Come on. And I've never stated what I think the cause of homosexuality to be either... merely asked some questions that would be asked sooner or later by someone.

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Actually, lots of people here DO say that, although not yet in this particular thread. It's reasonable to acknowledge the related opinions of the participants even if they haven't mentioned them in this week's gay thread yet.



I've never said anything like that myself... and I haven't seen them here in this thread. In fact, I haven't seen it very often in SC really. But sure, I know some folks may think that.

And, BTW, this week's gay thread was started by a gay dude. So no bitching about that.

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A huge number of parents hate their gay kids and give them untold grief, often resulting in teen suicide.

These parents prefer their kids to be straight to such an exaggerated extent that they torture them if they aren't.

I am strongly suspect of any parents who would go to medical lengths to change their child's sexual orientation. I see that as about halfway along the scale from healthy disinterest to destructively obsessive.



Well, then... maybe this kind of research will eventually lead to parents being able to tell if their kid will be gay or whatever so that they can abort it and try again. Maybe that'd be better. Or maybe it'd save some kids a lot of pain and grief if it could be "fixed" beforehand since they may have ignorant parents. Who knows... but I'm sure we won't be the last to discuss this.

And for Rhonda... the article talks about effeminate behavior more than homosexuality... if I recall correctly, because the kids they were studying weren't old enough to know if they were gay or not. Homosexuality was introduced as a possible result of this "hormonal variation" (happy?). But that's just what I remember... I didn't read it necessarily as an explanation of why gay people are gay per se.
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