mnealtx 0 #26 March 23, 2006 Oh yes, I forgot... Add into the list above: Visits with the school (progress reports, parent/teacher day, etc.) Doctor's appointments Leisure activities with/without the kids (library, park, movies, etc.) Any school / part time work the parent can squeeze into the day. Ladies / gents....what else am I missing?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #27 March 23, 2006 Haha, oh no, what have I started!? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #28 March 23, 2006 QuoteHaha, oh no, what have I started!? Are you aware that there have been valuations done of "woman's work"? Don't get married, Scoop. You can't afford a full-time wife. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #29 March 23, 2006 Dont worry about that, I'm not rushing! 'full time wife!?' Argggggggggh! GETMEOUTTAHERE! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #30 March 23, 2006 QuoteBecause when someone uses the phrase "Full Time Mother" it's very often an excuse. An excuse for what? Spending time with her children? Being there for her family? Not driving that flashy car they could afford with two incomes? Not having that extra vacation or maybe even not have vacation at all? Living in a smaller house? There are sacrifices to be made for the benefit of having a parent stay home with the children. Raising and being around children 24 hours a day is not easy. You can't close your office door, or call in sick if you just want to get away from it for a second. If your sister calls herself unemployed than she is also uneducated. If she isn't actively looking for a job, she is also not unemployed. Calling a spade a spade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #31 March 23, 2006 QuoteOnce your kids are school-aged, then I'd say it IS less productive to be a full-time mom than to be a mom who works outside the home. I don't agree. There is a great deal of volunteer work that can be done with great benefits to society. Further, it is those teenage years where being their for your kids has the greatest impact. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #32 March 23, 2006 Quote To be accurate, a stay at home mom is not unemployed - she is not actively LOOKING for work, thus not considered "unemployed". Economics 101 anyone? The best post I have read yet. I am not done with the whole thread, but I just wanted to make a note here. - never mind, finished the thread. Still the best. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #33 March 23, 2006 QuoteQuote To be accurate, a stay at home mom is not unemployed - she is not actively LOOKING for work, thus not considered "unemployed". Economics 101 anyone? The best post I have read yet. But who cares about Economics 101. Everyone knows you call all stay-at-home parents 'unemployed' if you want to inflate the unemployment statistics. You don't if you want to mitigate that same stat. Ditto for self employed, ditto for college students. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #34 March 23, 2006 Quote But who cares about Economics 101. Everyone knows you call all stay-at-home parents 'unemployed' if you want to inflate the unemployment statistics. You don't if you want to mitigate that same stat. Ditto for self employed, ditto for college students. Well, good thing they don't do that when actually computing the unemployment rate then, huh? Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #35 March 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteOnce your kids are school-aged, then I'd say it IS less productive to be a full-time mom than to be a mom who works outside the home. I don't agree. There is a great deal of volunteer work that can be done with great benefits to society. Further, it is those teenage years where being their for your kids has the greatest impact. I'd say that volunteer work is work outside the home. Right? Being there for your kids and having a job are not mutually exclusive. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #36 March 23, 2006 It bugs me, but doesn't. If we are talking 'full time mom' of pre-school aged children, I can understand that. After all, if they worked, they'd be paying a full time daycare to provide the same service and I don't see any difference between sending a kid to daycare and being the daycare. Once the kids are all school age and in school all day, I have no respect for the women that call themselves 'full time moms' since they are no longer caring for chidren at home, just sitting on asses all day (my mom was like this... didn't even do housework, just sat around). Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #37 March 23, 2006 Good lord. Of all the groups of people in the world to judge, you pick mommies who stay home to raise their babies. WTF indeed. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #38 March 23, 2006 QuoteGood lord. Of all the groups of people in the world to judge, you pick mommies who stay home to raise their babies. WTF indeed. Gotta judge someone Here's one - if full time mom equals employed, then they must make some kind of equivalent salary. A salary paid by the 'man' that is enslaving them at home. We should really tax that as income........ I mean, if dad hired a nanny or a housekeeper, that would be taxed. I think we've found a loophole that should be plugged immediately. (Psssst - Don't let the politicians read this.....) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #39 March 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteGood lord. Of all the groups of people in the world to judge, you pick mommies who stay home to raise their babies. WTF indeed. Gotta judge someone That's my point. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #40 March 23, 2006 Your loophole is silly and I shall have none of it. And I shall further have none of it by taking what you said seriously: Besides, those who hold no job but are not looking simply do not exist as far as employments stats are concerned. So just because you are unemployed does mean you are employed. I need some coffee. Next time you post, bring me coffee.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ppgk 0 #41 March 23, 2006 I'm seriously offended by the lack of respect you are showing to stay at home moms and dads. I am a woman, who after working 12 hr days for 7 years, decided to stay at home and raise my child. Raising a child 24/7 is more physically and emotionally taxing than my career ever was. I do it because I believe my child is benefiting from having his mother there. I gave up my career and financial independence because I was willing to make that sacrifice for my child. Going to work would be much easier. You say you would love to make enough for your wife to stay home? Why would she want to with your attitude? I would suggest you become a parent before running your mouth about those who are. I think you'll start singing a different song. Guess what Scoop? I'm a "FULL-TIME MOM" and proud of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #42 March 23, 2006 Spoken like someone who has no clue as to how much time, effort and resources it takes to raise a a child.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #43 March 23, 2006 Just as an aside - Is the original poster referring to "homemakers" or is he referring to "welfare queens?" My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #44 March 23, 2006 QuoteAn excuse for what? And excuse as to why they are not working. Why should anyone have to make one? That's a personal choice. If I were a "stay at home dad" and some one asked me what I did for work, I definately would not feel the need to defend my choice with some trite phrase..... QuoteThere are sacrifices to be made for the benefit of having a parent stay home with the children. Did I ever say there were not? QuoteIf your sister calls herself unemployed than she is also uneducated. Really? You sure about that? Watch your mouth. She's got a PhD. QuoteIf she isn't actively looking for a job, she is also not unemployed. Stop re-inventing the language to suit your ideas. There is no middle ground. Your problem seems to be realizing there is no shame in not working. There is no shame in being a parent. Raising your own kids is work, lots of it, but it's not employment.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #45 March 23, 2006 Quote QuoteIf your sister calls herself unemployed than she is also uneducated. Really? You sure about that? Watch your mouth. She's got a PhD. You must have missed the part where we talked about how being a "stay at home mom" is not unemployed according to the government. Unless, of course, your sister is LOOKING for work.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #46 March 23, 2006 un·em·ployed adj. Out of work, especially involuntarily; jobless. You can't reinvent the definition of the word simply to suport your argument. The goverment doesn't set the definition of the word. Someone who is not employed currently IS unemployed.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #47 March 23, 2006 QuoteJust as an aside - Is the original poster referring to "homemakers" or is he referring to "welfare queens?" too late, it's more fun to be indignant by assuming scoop is talking about "homemakers"..... GTA - I'm not allowed near coffee here at work. They say that letting me have caffeine is like throwing lighter fluid on a burning cat. You'll have to get your own. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #48 March 23, 2006 >They say that letting me have caffeine is like throwing lighter fluid on a burning cat. Is the cat on anyone's lawn? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #49 March 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteGood lord. Of all the groups of people in the world to judge, you pick mommies who stay home to raise their babies. WTF indeed. Gotta judge someone Here's one - if full time mom equals employed, then they must make some kind of equivalent salary. A salary paid by the 'man' that is enslaving them at home. We should really tax that as income........ I mean, if dad hired a nanny or a housekeeper, that would be taxed. I think we've found a loophole that should be plugged immediately. (Psssst - Don't let the politicians read this.....) Just try divorcing a long time stay-home mother and see how much of your assets and income the court considers her services were worth.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #50 March 23, 2006 Quote>They say that letting me have caffeine is like throwing lighter fluid on a burning cat. Is the cat on anyone's lawn? Better shoot the cat if he's messing up the 'masterpiece'. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
