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Quote>True, but don't forget that LEU is typically referred to as <20% enriched, not 5%.
Right, but there are efforts to keep most LEU closer to 3-5% enrichment than 20%. You can still make a decent bomb with 20%. (Would weigh half a ton, but it's definitely doable.) Whereas a bomb made with 5% enriched uranium will not go prompt-critical without additional equipment; it would have to reach criticality using thermal neutrons, and thus wouldn't explode like a nuclear weapon. It would explode more like Chernobyl (i.e. get really hot and rupture its case.)
This appears to have been the approach taken by Heisenberg in the Nazi A-bomb effort. No serious attempt an enrichment, just a huge thermal neutron device. They never got anywhere close to making it work. Good thing for us that German Jews Otto Frisch and Rudolph Peierls were in exile in Britain when they figured out how to do it.
Edited to add personal note, Frisch was my instructor in the Relativity course at Cambridge.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
QUITE WRONG-----------------DU according to title 50 USC is classified as a weapon of mass destruction
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QuoteQUITE WRONG-----------------DU according to title 50 USC is classified as a weapon of mass destruction
Show your cite - Title 50 USC talks about enriched uranium.
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Dayum. You drug this thread out from under the (DU)DUST.
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I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.
"Depleted uranium" never appears in 50 CFR. In fact, the CFR is loaded with references to excepting "depleted uranium" from categories dealing with other types of uranium. (one exception to this is pollution from production standards)
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I think this thread has priority.
I think this thread has priority.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
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[replyDoes anyone note the fact that the thing about DU is they found a use for this industrial waste. Not only found a use, but a way to make money off of it! Very similar to the poision, flouride- another industrial waste, which is being added to municipal water in most cities
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Ding Ding Ding!!!!!!!
We have a winner!
The corporations needed to do something with this hazardous material.
Can't dump it. That would be way expensive!
Let's make it into munitions and armor! We can sell it to the Department of Defense for what ever price we like!
And flouride?
A by-product of aluminum manufacturing.
A deadly toxin but how could aluminum giant Alcoa get rid of it?
They couldn't. At least not economically.
So they funded a study. A study about how flouride was great for tooth enamel.
That study didn't mention all of the side effects.
I'll not list them. The sheeple I mean reader can do their own research.
Blues,
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billvon 3,028
>The corporations needed to do something with this hazardous material.
>Can't dump it. That would be way expensive!
?? It's cheap to dispose of. It's a low level alpha emitter with a long half life; the least dangerous sort of radioactive material there is.
> A study about how flouride was great for tooth enamel. That study
>didn't mention all of the side effects.
Like poisoning your precious bodily fluids.
>Can't dump it. That would be way expensive!
?? It's cheap to dispose of. It's a low level alpha emitter with a long half life; the least dangerous sort of radioactive material there is.
> A study about how flouride was great for tooth enamel. That study
>didn't mention all of the side effects.
Like poisoning your precious bodily fluids.
QuoteQuoteQuoteWhen a depleted uranium tipped shell strikes a tank or armored personnel carrier it easily penetrates the armor and burns the crew alive.
I don't know jack about D.U., but this sounds interesting. How does it burn them alive? Does D.U. have incindiary properties? I really don't know so please tell me how this works.
Richards
Uranium burns spontaneously in air if finely powdered (pyrophoric). A round hitting armor will disintegrate into fine enough particles to catch fire. So yes, it does have incendiary properties under those conditions.
How bad is it? Very very bad, for the enemy tank commander. It has self sharpening properties that increase penetration. The increased kinetic energy turns the material it hits in many cases into molten metal which accompanies the projectile into the tank. If the round doesn't penetrate it can still have an effect called "spalling" where the interior surface of the tank armor becomes shrapnel. Hot or molten metal bouncing around inside that little space reduces the tank crew's life span considerably. If you're lucky they have at least one or two willy pete rounds still in their magazine, and when they start to cook off the other rounds will sporadically detonate sending what looks like fireworks and sparklers radiating from a white hot fire that a few seconds before was an enemy tank. It's bad stuff. In a beautiful sort of way.
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QuoteEdited to add personal note, Frisch was my instructor in the Relativity course at Cambridge.
Damn! You are old, aren't you!
HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.
Quote>The corporations needed to do something with this hazardous material.
>Can't dump it. That would be way expensive!
?? It's cheap to dispose of. It's a low level alpha emitter with a long half life; the least dangerous sort of radioactive material there is.
> A study about how flouride was great for tooth enamel. That study
>didn't mention all of the side effects.
Like poisoning your precious bodily fluids.
Now THAT, is hilarious!
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flouride is bad now?
Well if there was ever a good reason to stop doing coke it was the flouride!
I call BS! While living in Bolivia i did not see a single person with tooth decay. Every one drinks coca tea. The coca plant naturally pulls flouride out of the soil and when you drink coca tea...instant flouride treatment! It also bumps you metabolism a little bit so all the girls were skinny and HOT!
Well if there was ever a good reason to stop doing coke it was the flouride!
I call BS! While living in Bolivia i did not see a single person with tooth decay. Every one drinks coca tea. The coca plant naturally pulls flouride out of the soil and when you drink coca tea...instant flouride treatment! It also bumps you metabolism a little bit so all the girls were skinny and HOT!
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The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!
The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!
DU tastes like paprika.
I sprinkle it on my MREs.
Scouts Out!
I sprinkle it on my MREs.
Scouts Out!
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QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhen a depleted uranium tipped shell strikes a tank or armored personnel carrier it easily penetrates the armor and burns the crew alive.
I don't know jack about D.U., but this sounds interesting. How does it burn them alive? Does D.U. have incindiary properties? I really don't know so please tell me how this works.
Richards
Uranium burns spontaneously in air if finely powdered (pyrophoric). A round hitting armor will disintegrate into fine enough particles to catch fire. So yes, it does have incendiary properties under those conditions.
How bad is it? Very very bad, for the enemy tank commander. It has self sharpening properties that increase penetration. The increased kinetic energy turns the material it hits in many cases into molten metal which accompanies the projectile into the tank. If the round doesn't penetrate it can still have an effect called "spalling" where the interior surface of the tank armor becomes shrapnel. Hot or molten metal bouncing around inside that little space reduces the tank crew's life span considerably. If you're lucky they have at least one or two willy pete rounds still in their magazine, and when they start to cook off the other rounds will sporadically detonate sending what looks like fireworks and sparklers radiating from a white hot fire that a few seconds before was an enemy tank. It's bad stuff. In a beautiful sort of way.
The first I heard of spalling was a documentary about WW1 called "Digging up the trenches." Enemy snipers would hide behind steel plate making them insanely difficult to shoot. Soldiers figured out if they removed their bullets from the casings and inserted them in backwards spalling would occur when hitting the steel plate wounding anyone behind it.
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Quoteflouride is bad now?
Well if there was ever a good reason to stop doing coke it was the flouride!
I call BS! While living in Bolivia i did not see a single person with tooth decay. Every one drinks coca tea. The coca plant naturally pulls flouride out of the soil and when you drink coca tea...instant flouride treatment! It also bumps you metabolism a little bit so all the girls were skinny and HOT!
Coca tea is awesome! I wonder if that's really why the people down there have such good teeth. You can get coca tea in the states, but don't drink it if your company does UA's.
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QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhen a depleted uranium tipped shell strikes a tank or armored personnel carrier it easily penetrates the armor and burns the crew alive.
I don't know jack about D.U., but this sounds interesting. How does it burn them alive? Does D.U. have incindiary properties? I really don't know so please tell me how this works.
Richards
Uranium burns spontaneously in air if finely powdered (pyrophoric). A round hitting armor will disintegrate into fine enough particles to catch fire. So yes, it does have incendiary properties under those conditions.
How bad is it? Very very bad, for the enemy tank commander. It has self sharpening properties that increase penetration. The increased kinetic energy turns the material it hits in many cases into molten metal which accompanies the projectile into the tank. If the round doesn't penetrate it can still have an effect called "spalling" where the interior surface of the tank armor becomes shrapnel. Hot or molten metal bouncing around inside that little space reduces the tank crew's life span considerably. If you're lucky they have at least one or two willy pete rounds still in their magazine, and when they start to cook off the other rounds will sporadically detonate sending what looks like fireworks and sparklers radiating from a white hot fire that a few seconds before was an enemy tank. It's bad stuff. In a beautiful sort of way.
The first I heard of spalling was a documentary about WW1 called "Digging up the trenches." Enemy snipers would hide behind steel plate making them insanely difficult to shoot. Soldiers figured out if they removed their bullets from the casings and inserted them in backwards spalling would occur when hitting the steel plate wounding anyone behind it.
Full penetration is much better.
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QuoteFull penetration is much better.
agreed!
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Right, but there are efforts to keep most LEU closer to 3-5% enrichment than 20%. You can still make a decent bomb with 20%. (Would weigh half a ton, but it's definitely doable.) Whereas a bomb made with 5% enriched uranium will not go prompt-critical without additional equipment; it would have to reach criticality using thermal neutrons, and thus wouldn't explode like a nuclear weapon. It would explode more like Chernobyl (i.e. get really hot and rupture its case.)
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