Online Ads Offer Rooms in Return for Sex

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Online Ads Offer Rooms in Return for Sex
By DAN GOODIN, Associated Press Writer
3 hours ago

SAN FRANCISCO - In Atlanta, an online ad offers a room in exchange for "sex and light office duty." In Los Angeles, a one-bedroom pool house is free "to a girl that is skilled and willing." And in New York City, a $700-a-month room is available at a discount to a fit female willing to provide sex.

On the widely used Web site Craigslist.org, some landlords and apartment dwellers looking for roommates are offering to accept sex in lieu of rent.

"They have to be attractive. I don't let just anybody come into my house," said Mike, a man who answered the phone at the New York City listing but declined to give his last name _ and refused to say whether he has, in fact, collected the rent under the sheets.

The offering of shelter for sex is older than, well, real estate itself.

But the online come-ons are franker than anything you might see in the newspaper classifieds, because they are not edited by Craigslist, and perhaps also because the anonymity of the Internet often causes people to shed their inhibitions.

Trading housing for sex is a form of prostitution. But the police aren't kicking down doors.

Paul J. Browne, a deputy police commissioner in New York, said investigators have found that the Craigslist ads are frequently "little more than a form of voyeurism that didn't result in an actual exchange of sex for rent."

Craigslist provides mostly free classifieds for apartments, used cars and just about everything else in more than 200 cities in 35 countries.

"I usually rent the room for 600, but if you are really ticklish and willing to trade being tickled for the extra rent then we have a deal," writes a gay man offering a $350-a-month room in the San Francisco Bay area.

An ad for a townhouse near Bradenton, Fla., seeks a "female that likes to be nude. Nothing more expected."

It is unclear how much success people have had with their rent-for-sex ads.

One man said he became friends with a bisexual man who answered his ad but did not end up taking the room. The same user said a man visiting from Russia answered his ad and they shared dinner and a bottle of wine, but that was it.

"This is only a silly sideline adventure of mine," the man, who would not give his name, wrote in an e-mail. "I feel a little embarrassed about it."

The Associated Press e-mailed more than two-dozen other people who placed ads, but most declined to be interviewed.

Jim Buckmaster, chief executive of San Francisco-based Craigslist, said the company forbids ads that break the law, but his staff of 19 could not possibly police all postings. Craigslist instead relies on users to flag ads they find offensive. If enough people agree, the ad is removed.

"Tens of millions of users are a much more powerful force in examining the more than 8 million classified ads per month than any staff could be," Buckmaster said.

Mike, who offered the room in New York, said his ads are frequently flagged and removed, resulting in a cat-and-mouse game in which he puts them back up.

Tenants rights groups have accused Craigslist of skirting fair housing requirements. In February, a group called the Chicago Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law sued the Web site for publishing housing ads that excluded people based on their race, religion and sex.

But legal experts say Craigslist is shielded by a 1996 federal law that protects online service providers that merely pass along unedited information provided by someone else.

And in most states, prostitution laws apply only if the ads are followed by e-mails, phone conversations or other acts that advance the proposition.

"The mere posting itself is absolutely not illegal," said Anthony Lowenstein, a defense lawyer in San Francisco, "unless the guy who posts it or the person who answers it does something that makes it a little closer to happening."

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Geez and to think I had to let women do me just for a beer!

BTW anyone ever worked a trade with a stranger for a room in return for sex?

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[unformed 0]

I have a friend who used to have sex with an older women for drugs in high school. He said that as long as he'd keep boning her, she'd keep giving him pills.

This ad space for sale.

[altichick 1]

Sounds like a fair deal - both parties get what they want. It's kinda like getting married really, sex in exchage for security, but without the need for a foo-foo dress and all the speeches!

Now if someone could please get a nice house really close to a big DZ in a warm place - no need to go on Craigslist (who is he anyway?) - just PM me

Faliing that, I have a leaking tent in the UK... someone want to make me an offer??

Don't sweat the petty things... and don't pet the sweaty things!

[lawrocket 3]

It'd make for an interesting case. What if she doesn't pay the rent?

"TO: Jane Blow and to all tenants in possession of the premises described below:

WITHIN THREE DAYS after service on you of this notice you are hereby required to pay the rent of the premises hereinafter described, of which you now hold possession amounting to the sum of 3 blowjobs (including teabaggings and a rim job), and 3 full sex sessions (in positions as described below) enumerated as follows:

Blow Job DUE FROM March 1, 2006 TO March 7, 2006
Missionary Sex DUE FROM March 1, 2006 TO March 7, 2006
Blow Job (with teabagging) DUE FROM March 8, 2006 TO March 15, 2006
Dog-Style Sex from March 1, 2006 TO March 7, 2006
Blow Job (with monthly rim job and hummer) DUE FROM March 16, 2006 to MArch 23, 2006
Full Sex (in "Paying the Rent" position) DUE FROM March 16, 2006 TO March 23, 2006

OR QUIT AND DELIVER UP THE POSSESSION OF THE PREMISES.

YOU ARE FURTHER NOTIFIED THAT if you do not comply with either of the above the undersigned does hereby elect to declare the forfeiture of your lease or rental agreement under which you hold possession of the above-described premises and lessor will institute legal proceedings to recover rent and possession of said premises."


Now, can you imagine the lawsuit for back due rent? "Your honor, she owes me three blow jobs, a rim job, and three sessions of sex."

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[warpedskydiver 0]

Now, can you imagine the lawsuit for back due rent? "Your honor, she owes me three blow jobs, a rim job, and three sessions of sex."

[warpedskydiver 0]

Now if someone could please get a nice house really close to a big DZ in a warm place - no need to go on Craigslist (who is he anyway?) - just PM me

Faliing that, I have a leaking tent in the UK... someone want to make me an offer??

[Lucky... 0]

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It'd make for an interesting case. What if she doesn't pay the rent?

"TO: Jane Blow and to all tenants in possession of the premises described below:

WITHIN THREE DAYS after service on you of this notice you are hereby required to pay the rent of the premises hereinafter described, of which you now hold possession amounting to the sum of 3 blowjobs (including teabaggings and a rim job), and 3 full sex sessions (in positions as described below) enumerated as follows:

Blow Job DUE FROM March 1, 2006 TO March 7, 2006
Missionary Sex DUE FROM March 1, 2006 TO March 7, 2006
Blow Job (with teabagging) DUE FROM March 8, 2006 TO March 15, 2006
Dog-Style Sex from March 1, 2006 TO March 7, 2006
Blow Job (with monthly rim job and hummer) DUE FROM March 16, 2006 to MArch 23, 2006
Full Sex (in "Paying the Rent" position) DUE FROM March 16, 2006 TO March 23, 2006

OR QUIT AND DELIVER UP THE POSSESSION OF THE PREMISES.

YOU ARE FURTHER NOTIFIED THAT if you do not comply with either of the above the undersigned does hereby elect to declare the forfeiture of your lease or rental agreement under which you hold possession of the above-described premises and lessor will institute legal proceedings to recover rent and possession of said premises."


Now, can you imagine the lawsuit for back due rent? "Your honor, she owes me three blow jobs, a rim job, and three sessions of sex."

Have her served with a forcible detainer, go to court and get a court order to have her blow you. If she defaults, have the Sheriff come and move her shit out.

[bob.dino 1]

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Now if someone could please get a nice house really close to a big DZ in a warm place - no need to go on Craigslist (who is he anyway?) - just PM me

I have a spare room in Sydney, 100m from the harbour. Picton's got four turbines and a massive swoop-pond .

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Failing that, I have a leaking tent in the UK... someone want to make me an offer??[Wink]

Sounds just like Glasto

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Now, can you imagine the lawsuit for back due rent? "Your honor, she owes me three blow jobs, a rim job, and three sessions of sex."

I see "Judge Judy" handling this...

mh

"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

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I have a spare room in Sydney, 100m from the harbour. Picton's got four turbines and a massive swoop-pond .

She doesn't need a spare room, room in your bed will suffice. Beware though, she isn't kidding when she says she won't clean, and she might rip you off. But she is serious about it though.

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Abbie drove me to Idaho and all I got was this lousy sigline

[jeiber 0]

Just out of curiosity, is this considered prostitution?

If not:

I have two spare bedrooms (furnished) for rent in the North Florida area - 10 minutes from the beach. Ammenities include waterfront property, use of waverunner, hot tub, stocked bar, and wireless internet access. 20 minutes from local Cessna DZ, 60 minutes from Caravan DZ.

Applicants must be female, attractive, in shape, and willing to put out. 'Rent' is due daily.

Shhh... you hear that sound? That's the sound of nobody caring!

[lawrocket 3]

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Just out of curiosity, is this considered prostitution?

Why, yes. As a matter of fact, it does. "Prostitution" typically includes any lewd act between persons for money or other consideration. "Consideration" is merely some right, interest or benefit accruing to one party, or some forebearance, detriment, etc., undertaken by the other.

Instead of money, the consideration for this would be "room." And the person who is advertising may be soliciting prostitution.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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Instead of money, the consideration for this would be "room." And the person who is advertising may be soliciting prostitution.

Hmmm. 'consideration' seems to be an extremely vague term. Following the letter of the law, there are alot of seemingly harmless situations where a cohabitating couple would actually be engaging in prostitution, and/or soliciting prostitution.

Interesting...

Shhh... you hear that sound? That's the sound of nobody caring!

[lawrocket 3]

It's not a fine line that divides this. It's more of a gossamer thread.

But, with this, you've got advertisements saying, "I'll give you a place to stay if you give me sex." It seems the consideration is pretty easy to figure out.

And the nature of the consideration is what defines it. For example, porn actors and actresses have sex in exchange for payment. But, the payment is being made by a third party. The purpose of the entire transaction is the filming of it - not the gratification of the actors. Because it has artistic merit, it is insulated as speech.

However, in the apartment scenario, the consideration of the tenant is to give sexual satisfaction to the landlord. Also, the transaction is solely between two people.

There are VERY fine lines that divide this.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[jeiber 0]

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There are VERY fine lines that divide this.

I can understand the above scenarios, but what about in my example, where it's husband and wife, or boyfriend and girlfriend?

Girl: 'Pleeeaaase, will you put up my ceiling fan for me?'
Guy: 'I'll do it if you give me some'.

Is that prostitution? What if they're married or in a committed relationship?

Shhh... you hear that sound? That's the sound of nobody caring!

[Eiley 0]

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There are VERY fine lines that divide this.

I can understand the above scenarios, but what about in my example, where it's husband and wife, or boyfriend and girlfriend?

Girl: 'Pleeeaaase, will you put up my ceiling fan for me?'
Guy: 'I'll do it if you give me some'.

Is that prostitution? What if they're married or in a committed relationship?

Or even: "I'll give you head if you give me head"?

This is "I will give you something of value" (a blowjob, which I could sell on the street for $20) "if you give me a sexual favour" (not quite such a liquid commodity, so to speak).

nothing to see here