Mexican Immigrant March in Dallas

[Duckwater 0]

Almost 500,000 marched in Dallas today protesting. There were zero incidents of violence. The Police had nothing but praises.

These people come to America to do jobs that are mostly back breaking, miserable jobs for minimal pay. I have worked with them. I hate to sterotype, but they are some of the hardest working, polite and family loving people I have ever seen. They are not lazy, and dont come here to get on welfare.
Other than being here illegaly, they are a pretty law abiding bunch.

Texas would shut down without them. And, if the demand for migrant workers gets met, they will stop coming if there are no jobs. Supply and demand.

500,000 people demonstrate peacefully, that are here to work, waving American flags, and love America. Shouldnt we WANT them here?

[Nightingale 0]

yes.

[Duckwater 0]

There are more than 2,000,000 Mexican immigrants in Texas. If there were 2,000,000 Texans looking for work, Id look at reform. There are help wanted ads everywhere.

What are people thinking???? Lets kick out 2 MILLION people that WORK here!

They should all not work for a week too. The result would be devastating.

[Gravitymaster 0]

It is a bullshit lie served up by the press and politicians that illegals only take the jobs Americans won't do. While I agree that farm labor falls into this catagory, there are many, many jobs illegals take that Americans will do. Right here in the area I live in, there has been a huge controversy that has gotten national attention over a Day Laborer Center. The illegals who come to this center to hook up with Contractors and homeowner are most certainly taking Home Improvement business away from Americans who will do the work. As such it is hurting the honest contractors who provide benefits to their employees such as medical, vacation etc because they can't compete with the contractors who hire illegals and pay them $50 for an entire days work with no benefits and no taxes taken out of their pay. Thats just one way they take jobs away from Americans who are willing to do them.

The other problem I have with illegals is they are not coming to the US for the same reasons legal immigrants from other countries come here. Most legal immigrants come here b/c they want to be Americans, and are willing to leave their home country b/c of the great advantages America offers them as opposed to where they come from. They want to get their part of the American Dream by owning a home, sending their children to good schools, having a sucessful career etc.

Illegals, for the most part do not want to become Americans. They want to sneak across the border, work and then send their money back to Mexico and most likely return to Mexico at some point in the future.

The Parade Organizers made a big mistake in Los Angeles last week by not realizing that carrying the Meicans Flag would have a very serious backlash with most Americans. They corrected that mistake this week by making sure the protesters were only carrying US flags.

I believe most of these protests are being coordinated by the Mexican Government of Vicente Fox. Isn't it ironic that the US is accused of being anti-immigrant by the same govt. that has created a Caste society in Mexico?


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[JohnRich 4]

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These people come to America to do jobs...

29% of America's prison population is comprised of illegal aliens that shouldn't have been here in the first place. They're not all law-abiding...

[Channman 2]

Did they come with belts for their pants? Oh by the way did they come legally?

[masterrig 1]

I've got to agree with you. I saw a story on the news yesterday, which showed a rancher in Arizona. The ranch, borders Mexico. The trash, that was left behind by illegals, would fill several trucks. Not to mention the fences cut and the cattle that have wandered into Mexico because of the holes. I've mentioned this before but, they also, bring diseases with them that we thought we had wiped-out. Mexico, needs to fix Mexico. The only thing Vicente Fox is interested in is the money brought in from the oil and resort towns where thousands of U.S. touristas spend U.S. dollars. The Mexican government does not give one iota of a thought to the poor of it's country. The thinking of the Mexican government is to let the U.S. take care of their poor... then, they don't have to. Fox, has fought to get medical benefits and everything else for the illegals in the U.S. The Big business fat-cats want the illegals so they don't have to pay high wages. The U.S. Politicians want them for the votes. By not controlling the people who enter this country, we get whatever crosses. That means criminals, too. Hell, the business of criminals is better here than in Mexico! If, they get arrested, our prisons are better. We can't or won't do anything about the poor and homeless U.S. citizens... we're supposed to take care of Mexico's? People in the U.S. need to realize, they don't come for the agricultural jobs or the hotel maid jobs... they want the high paying assembly line jobs and construction jobs. Not to mention the oilfields and whoever else pays btter than picking tomatoes. Something needs to be done about illegal immigration. Something should've been done 30-years ago.


Chuck

[Gravitymaster 0]

Agreed. A very interesting phenomenom is already beginning to occur. Many of the illegals who have been here for years are starting to compete for wages with those who have recently entered. That means more and more of the older illegals may soon be out of the lower skilled jobs and will be looking to elevate themselves to the next tier ie. jobs American's want. This has already happened where I live. Illegals are installing roofing, decks etc, all with the encouragement of local governments.

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[Gravitymaster 0]

Something you might also be interested in Chuck. Here are some quotes taken from Mexico's Constitution:

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• Pursuant to Article 33, "Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country." This ban applies, among other things, to participation in demonstrations and the expression of opinions in public about domestic politics like those much in evidence in Los Angeles, New York and elsewhere in recent days.

• Equal employment rights are denied to immigrants, even legal ones. Article 32: "Mexicans shall have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable."

• Jobs for which Mexican citizenship is considered "indispensable" include, pursuant to Article 32, bans on foreigners, immigrants, and even naturalized citizens of Mexico serving as military officers, Mexican-flagged ship and airline crew, and chiefs of seaports and airports.

• Article 55 denies immigrants the right to become federal lawmakers. A Mexican congressman or senator must be "a Mexican citizen by birth." Article 91 further stipulates that immigrants may never aspire to become cabinet officers as they are required to be Mexican by birth. Article 95 says the same about Supreme Court justices.

• In accordance with Article 130, immigrants — even legal ones — may not become members of the clergy, either.

• Foreigners, to say nothing of illegal immigrants, are denied fundamental property rights. For example, Article 27 states, "Only Mexicans by birth or naturalization and Mexican companies have the right to acquire ownership of lands, waters, and their appurtenances, or to obtain concessions for the exploitation of mines or of waters."

• Article 11 guarantees federal protection against "undesirable aliens resident in the country." What is more, private individuals are authorized to make citizen's arrests. Article 16 states, "In cases of flagrante delicto, any person may arrest the offender and his accomplices, turning them over without delay to the nearest authorities." In other words, Mexico grants its citizens the right to arrest illegal aliens and hand them over to police for prosecution. Imagine the Minutemen exercising such a right!

• The Mexican constitution states that foreigners — not just illegal immigrants — may be expelled for any reason and without due process. According to Article 33, "the Federal Executive shall have the exclusive power to compel any foreigner whose remaining he may deem inexpedient to abandon the national territory immediately and without the necessity of previous legal action."

[masterrig 1]

I find that extremely interesting. According to the illegals already here and those on their way, really believe they are 'entitled' to everythying The U.S. has to offer just because they struggled to get here and they work hard. As far as I'm concerened, they entered illegally, they broke our immigration laws and they should be returned to where they came from. If, they want to do it legally, that's a different story. I resent them and their arrogance. Once they get here! In their marches they are holding, they talk like they are 'legal' and we're picking on them. They are 'illegal'.


Chuck


Chuck

[masterrig 1]

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Agreed. A very interesting phenomenom is already beginning to occur. Many of the illegals who have been here for years are starting to compete for wages with those who have recently entered. That means more and more of the older illegals may soon be out of the lower skilled jobs and will be looking to elevate themselves to the next tier ie. jobs American's want. This has already happened where I live. Illegals are installing roofing, decks etc, all with the encouragement of local governments.

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I've been seeing the same thing, where I live. On the block I live on, there are at least, 3-families of illegals. Of the men of the families, 1- works as a mechanic at the local Chevy dealer. Another, works for a sign company and the 3rd., works in the oil field. To me, all illegals are 'thieves'! They are 'stealing' the rights of citizenship in this country. They are slapping the faces of those who have come here legally and who went through the legal process to become citizens. One of my customers, is an illegal. We have discussed this matter and he agrees that, Mexico needs to 'fix' Mexico. He said, "until then, they are going to keep coming here!" One idea could be; If, they want to stay, the illegals can pay $2500.00 per head, every man woman child. When they pay, they are issued a Green card! In my opinion, things could get real ugly, before this is all over.


Chuck

[akarunway 1]

"One of my customers, is an illegal"___________________________________________And YOU my friend are part of the problem (along w/ some of my family)

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[Lindsey 0]

500,000 people demonstrate peacefully, that are here to work, waving American flags, and love America. Shouldnt we WANT them here?

Heh....it's the "cream of the crop" here now. Soon, though, they'll be out there smoking crack like the rest of us...

linz

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A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

[ExAFO 0]

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"One of my customers, is an illegal"___________________________________________And YOU my friend are part of the problem (along w/ some of my family)

Actually Sir, YOU are part of the problem, enabling the persistent comission of a felony, illegal immigration.

Calling these people "undocumented immigrants" is a euphamism for "Criminal."

Amnesty or other nonsense is not warranted. Mass arrest and summary deportation is.

Illegals are not entitled to free:

-Education
-Healthcare
-In-kind assistance (WIC, food stamps, etc)

They are only entitled to deportment.

With the damage that border crossing criminals do to AZ/NM/TX ranches, the landowners should be allowed to shoot, as this is protecting one's home.

The Mexican Government is also culpable. It's called aiding and abetting the commission of a felony.

Build a wall that makes Berlin look like a white picket fence.

No more criminal invaders.

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

[masterblaster72 0]

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The Big business fat-cats want the illegals so they don't have to pay high wages. The U.S. Politicians want them for the votes.

Which is precisely why this administration takes a pro-immigrant stance.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[Gravitymaster 0]

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The Big business fat-cats want the illegals so they don't have to pay high wages. The U.S. Politicians want them for the votes.

Which is precisely why this administration takes a pro-immigrant stance.

Uh, huh..and which party just killed the latest attempt to control immigration by putting politics over National interests?

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[masterrig 1]

He's paying for a service... he doesn't work for me! How, am I part of the problem? If, I hired him to mow my lawn or clean my shop... that might be a different story. The man who 'does' employ him, is a part of the problem! He's spending his money in the U.S.


Chuck

[masterrig 1]

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The Big business fat-cats want the illegals so they don't have to pay high wages. The U.S. Politicians want them for the votes.

Which is precisely why this administration takes a pro-immigrant stance.

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Now, 'WE the people', are speaking-out and they are backed in a corner. The politician's have a real problem. How, do they please everyone and not come out looking bad and still get votes?


Chuck

[masterrig 1]

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"One of my customers, is an illegal"___________________________________________And YOU my friend are part of the problem (along w/ some of my family)

Actually Sir, YOU are part of the problem, enabling the persistent comission of a felony, illegal immigration.

Calling these people "undocumented immigrants" is a euphamism for "Criminal."

Amnesty or other nonsense is not warranted. Mass arrest and summary deportation is.

Illegals are not entitled to free:

-Education
-Healthcare
-In-kind assistance (WIC, food stamps, etc)

They are only entitled to deportment.

With the damage that border crossing criminals do to AZ/NM/TX ranches, the landowners should be allowed to shoot, as this is protecting one's home.

The Mexican Government is also culpable. It's called aiding and abetting the commission of a felony.

Build a wall that makes Berlin look like a white picket fence.

No more criminal invaders.

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The point you make in regard to the Mexican government; "aiding and abetting" is right on! I say that in regard to the Mexican government publication (looked much like a comic book) and passed-out to thousands of Mexican Nationals, on 'how to cross the border safely!' I believe, they dis-continued putting that little bit of info out, due to pressure from our government.


Chuck

[rickjump1 0]

In other words, 500,000 people left their jobs to march in protest? I'd get fired for that. Makes you think that maybe a couple of them don't work and have a lot of time on their hands. Making them legal without sealing the border first? We have the potential for 500,000 terrorists including OTMs (other than Mexicans). Today they are waving the American flag when last week they were waving the Mexican flag. My guess is they will stomp on the American flag and once again wave the Mexican flag after the protests are over.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

[masterrig 1]

The way I see it, they want to 'protest' by holding 'boycott' of work, school, purchases of any kind... let 'em! Their 'plan' is, to show US, how important illegal aliens are. The illegals plan this for May 1st. Fine! On May second, noone will have noticed that they didn't buy anything. They boycott their jobs... on May 02, they are out of a job! Simple! I resent the idea that, they come here illegally and basically threaten us to show how powerful they are. Next time they all gather so peacefully... The Border Patrol rounds them up and sends them back where they came from.


Chuck

[billvon 2,991]

>Shouldnt we WANT them here?

Personally, I want them here, and I want them to come here legally. But the solution isn't to allow the people who broke the law to keep breaking it - it's to give them a legal option to do the same thing.

[Shotgun 1]

I think that we should just overthrow the Mexican government and make Mexico part of the United States. Seems like that would solve the problem...



Seriously though, I don't think that we should be encouraging illegal immigration. Yes, maybe we should want them here, but it's not fair to those who go the legal route for us to be letting others stay here illegally. We definitely need to quit granting American citizenship to children of illegal immigrants that are born on US soil; that's not only encouraging illegal immigration, it's also encouraging people to have children when they are in no position to support them.

[Casurf1978 0]

Which Americans are you referring too? If you have a college or advanced degree you don't have to worry about illegal threatening your job. Now if you are a HS dropout then I would be worried. Like it or not illegal take the least attractive jobs in our economy. Look at the meat packing and agriculture industry. There is a demand for low skilled, and low pay labor. Who's going to fill that void. Read Fast Food Nation and go to the chapter on the meat packing industry. I doubt any American would subject themselves to the work these immigrant do. It's simple supply and demand. Our economy needs low skilled, unskilled, cheap manual labor.

[Andy9o8 2]

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We definitely need to quit granting American citizenship to children of illegal immigrants that are born on US soil

Just an FYI; it would require amending the US Constitution to do that. Not an impossible task, but amending the US Constitution is, by design, a very lengthy, cumbersome & difficult process.