gowlerk 2,191 #726 June 18, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 6:54 PM, brenthutch said: Wake me up when heat kills more than cold. It looks like a tie. https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Which-Kills-More-People-Extreme-Heat-or-Extreme-Cold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #727 June 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, gowlerk said: It looks like a tie. https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Which-Kills-More-People-Extreme-Heat-or-Extreme-Cold Give climate change deniers a decade or so; they won't have to settle for a tie any more! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottishJohn 25 #728 June 18, 2019 On 6/15/2019 at 12:54 AM, brenthutch said: Wake me up when heat kills more than cold. In Bihar (India) , however, one of the poorest areas of the country, 49 people died on Saturday in just 24 hours France's 2018 scorching summer heatwave claimed 1,500 lives Australia heatwave Extreme temperatures hot or cold kills lots of people every year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #729 June 18, 2019 4 hours ago, ScottishJohn said: In Bihar (India) , however, one of the poorest areas of the country, 49 people died on Saturday in just 24 hours France's 2018 scorching summer heatwave claimed 1,500 lives Australia heatwave Extreme temperatures hot or cold kills lots of people every year. I read a couple of stories also and the overriding theme is that if you're comparing winter and summer then more people die during cold weather because that's the season during which there are more cases of things like the the flu. However, when it comes to comparing flashes and extremes, many many more are killed during a heatwave than during a cold snap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #730 June 18, 2019 17 hours ago, timski said: said no first responder , EVER! What exactly does a First Responder have to do with Global warming that stopped in 1998? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,446 #731 June 18, 2019 I would bet that first responders respond to people suffering both from hypothermia and heat prostration. Wendy P. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #732 June 18, 2019 2 hours ago, wmw999 said: I would bet that first responders respond to people suffering both from hypothermia and heat prostration. Wendy P. I'm sure they do - but what does it have to do with this thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #733 June 18, 2019 2 hours ago, turtlespeed said: I'm sure they do - but what does it have to do with this thread? Yeah. What does it have to do with guns? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #734 June 20, 2019 On 6/18/2019 at 6:31 PM, billvon said: Yeah. What does it have to do with guns? Guns didn't stop in 1998 - Global Warming did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #735 June 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Guns didn't stop in 1998 - Global Warming did. Good point! But remember, nowadays it's "there's only one problem with global warming - it stopped in 2016!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timski 80 #736 June 20, 2019 On 6/18/2019 at 2:19 PM, turtlespeed said: What exactly does a First Responder have to do with Global warming that stopped in 1998? look at the quote dude! Someone wanted to argue heat VS cold related emergencies... Which of course is silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,363 #737 June 24, 2019 On 4/10/2006 at 9:31 AM, rushmc said: To all of those that keep saying "nearly all scientists agree....." Hi rush, Re: 'Agriculture Department buries studies showing dangers of climate change.' https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/23/agriculture-department-climate-change-1376413 Of course, this is one way to get agreement. NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jerry Baumchen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #738 June 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi rush, Re: 'Agriculture Department buries studies showing dangers of climate change.' https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/23/agriculture-department-climate-change-1376413 Of course, this is one way to get agreement. NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jerry Baumchen Hey, if you hide all the science, you can say whatever you want, and agree with almost anything! "Climate change is caused by trans soldiers. You can't prove me wrong because there's NO SCIENCE!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #739 July 1, 2019 Record flooding in USA. Massive hailstorm in Mexico. Record heat in Europe. Just a hoax, Donald said so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottishJohn 25 #740 July 1, 2019 Svalbard's temperature has risen 4C since 1971 Quote Since 1971, temperatures here have risen by 4C, five times faster than the global average. In the winter, when the changes are more marked, it has gone up by an astonishing 7C. These are increases that the rest of the world is not expected to experience until the 22nd century. They are far ahead of most computer simulations. Yet there is still more to come. On current trends, Svalbard will hit 10C of warming by 2100. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #741 July 16, 2019 The global average temperature for June 2019 was the highest ever recorded for June. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #742 July 17, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, kallend said: The global average temperature for June 2019 was the highest ever recorded for June. Can you give a source for that? I only see May data on NOAA and that would be quite a jump in averages. https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201905/supplemental/page-1 Edit for the readers: Of note, NOAA takes sea temperatures into account (which lag behind air temperatures). Since it's the air and sun that warms the sea it won't be far behind although that's typically metered by the hot air also melting the ice sheets which in turn cool the ocean in some areas. Edited July 17, 2019 by DJL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #743 July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, DJL said: Can you give a source for that? I only see May data on NOAA and that would be quite a jump in averages. https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201905/supplemental/page-1 Edit for the readers: Of note, NOAA takes sea temperatures into account (which lag behind air temperatures). Since it's the air and sun that warms the sea it won't be far behind although that's typically metered by the hot air also melting the ice sheets which in turn cool the ocean in some areas. https://weather.com/en-IN/india/news/news/2019-07-16-earth-experiences-hottest-june-ever-record-2019 https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/07/15/earth-just-had-its-hottest-june-record-track-warmest-july/?utm_term=.3a016c8af359 https://www.euronews.com/2019/07/15/mercury-rising-june-2019-breaks-records Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #744 July 17, 2019 2 hours ago, DJL said: Can you give a source for that? I only see May data on NOAA and that would be quite a jump in averages. https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201905/supplemental/page-1 Edit for the readers: Of note, NOAA takes sea temperatures into account (which lag behind air temperatures). Since it's the air and sun that warms the sea it won't be far behind although that's typically metered by the hot air also melting the ice sheets which in turn cool the ocean in some areas. Here's the NASA data: https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v4/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #745 July 17, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, kallend said: https://weather.com/en-IN/india/news/news/2019-07-16-earth-experiences-hottest-june-ever-record-2019 https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/07/15/earth-just-had-its-hottest-june-record-track-warmest-july/?utm_term=.3a016c8af359 https://www.euronews.com/2019/07/15/mercury-rising-june-2019-breaks-records Yeah, I read those. Curious about the discrepancy with the NOAA data but assume it's because they include sea temps too which don't have as much variation as the surface air temps cited in these sources. I believe this is what we refer to as a trend, as it in getting warmer, as in the data Hutch was looking for in his "eating crow" rant: Edited July 17, 2019 by DJL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #746 July 17, 2019 (edited) On 6/14/2019 at 6:54 PM, brenthutch said: Wake me up when heat kills more than cold. Extreme heat is the deadliest form of extreme weather in the United States, beating hurricanes and floods in a typical year. Be sure to click on the link. https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/07/17/widespread-oppressive-dangerous-heat-roast-much-us-through-weekend/?utm_term=.55c98953cfee&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1 Edited July 17, 2019 by kallend Link added Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #747 July 17, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, kallend said: "Extreme heat is the deadliest form of extreme weather in the United States, beating hurricanes and floods in a typical year." https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/07/17/widespread-oppressive-dangerous-heat-roast-much-us-through-weekend/?utm_term=.55c98953cfee&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1 I was reading about this earlier. The 2003 heatwave in Europe killed 70,000 people. The worst blizzard in modern history killed 400 people. Edited July 17, 2019 by DJL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #748 July 18, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 5:30 AM, kallend said: Record flooding in USA. Massive hailstorm in Mexico. Record heat in Europe. Just a hoax, Donald said so. You forgot about the record breaking/ road closing snow out West! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #749 July 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, brenthutch said: You forgot about the record breaking/ road closing snow out West! Good job, you're starting to identify the sort of things that an unstable jet stream creates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #750 July 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, brenthutch said: You forgot about the record breaking/ road closing snow out West! Yep. Warmer air/ocean = more water transported. And what goes up, comes down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
