leroydb 0 #1 April 19, 2006 Do you believe in God? NBC this morning had a poll on this question. They had the highest number of responses that they have ever had for one of their polls, and the percentage was the same as this: 86% to keep the words, IN God We Trust and God in the Pledge of Allegiance 14% against. Tha t is a pretty 'commanding' public response. I was asked to send this on if I agreed or delete if I didn't. Now it is your turn ...... It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore, I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a mess about having "In God We Trust" on our money and having God in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why is the world catering to this 14%? AMEN! If you agree, pass this on, if not, simply delete. In God We Trust May this day be HIS day!!Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
countzero 7 #2 April 19, 2006 yes i believe. the 14% are people who want to remove any mention or reference to God so they won't be reminded that they will be accountable to him one day. it's just sad that the world is catering to those who complain the loudest in an effort to look inclusive and politically correct.diamonds are a dawgs best friend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 April 19, 2006 Quote I was asked to send this on if I agreed or delete if I didn't. Now it is your turn ...... O'Rly? Lemme see . . . as a moderator . . . if I don't delete it then I therefore agree, if I do delete it (as suggested by the message itself) then my guess is there is going to be an outcry. Anyway . . . I don't agree with the concept, the words on the money or in the Pledge and I don't agree with the methods of the poll. If fact, could you please show me where this "poll" data is or am I supposed to simply take your word for it?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #4 April 19, 2006 Quoteyes i believe. the 14% are people who want to remove any mention or reference to God so they won't be reminded that they will be accountable to him one day. No, the 14% are mostly those of us who don't feel the need to have some sort of warm and fuzzy story explained to us as the reason for our existence. Am I afraid of being accountable to "God,"? Fuck no. But if it makes you feel better to think that I am going to Hell since I don' t believe in your fairytales, go right ahead and sound off about them... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #5 April 19, 2006 QuoteO'Rly? Quade, you're a horrible moderator. Go back into your sandbox. (Oh Jesus, now I'm probably going to get myself banned!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #6 April 19, 2006 Quote(Oh Jesus, now I'm probably going to get myself banned!) Dont worry its not that bad you get used to it after a couple times Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #7 April 19, 2006 QuoteQuote(Oh Jesus, now I'm probably going to get myself banned!) Dont worry its not that bad you get used to it after a couple times Oh great, I'll have Amazon as company... Hmm, actually that's not such a bad thing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #8 April 19, 2006 Correct me if I'm wrong. . .you lifted this off the below link: http://forum2.breakthechain.org/viewtopic.php?p=4402& If you did, didn't you read the response below it?: This one appears to be an update of another that's been around since 2002:http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/voteno.html _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,514 #9 April 19, 2006 QuoteNo, the 14% are mostly those of us who don't feel the need to have some sort of warm and fuzzy story explained to us as the reason for our existence.I wouldn't even say that. I do believe in God, and I don't think it particularly belongs on the money or in the Pledge of Allegiance. A self-selected poll, where most likely highly motivated people can vote again and again, would probably not be the best way to sample public opinion. How was it worded? How did they select their audience? Lots of other questions come up. Would I want to spend millions of dollars to remove the words? Nope, not worth it to me. But that doesn't mean I think that the country should hie to any one vision of a deity. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #10 April 19, 2006 Actually was a bulletin on myspace. Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #11 April 19, 2006 Nope. . .I have nothing. But I was confused about the thread: Is it asking about belief in Baal's fellow Deity, or about restriking coinage without the phrase?_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,514 #12 April 19, 2006 Quote Actually was a bulletin on myspace. Well shit. As taken from a US Navy website QuotePotential marine officers have their IQs tested before they are accepted into the Marines. If the score is above 90 they are redirected into the Coast Guard, because it is felt that they will not mold themselves closely enough to the Marine way of life if they are burdened with too much in the way of potential book smarts Now you can say you read it on dropzone.com. It's bullshit, but, well, consider the source Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpinfarmer 0 #13 April 19, 2006 Yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #14 April 19, 2006 QuoteI have a very hard time understanding why Seriously? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites leroydb 0 #15 April 19, 2006 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2181841#2181841Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #16 April 19, 2006 Quote As taken from a US Navy website QuotePotential marine officers have their IQs tested before they are accepted into the Marines. If the score is above 90 they are redirected into the Coast Guard, because it is felt that they will not mold themselves closely enough to the Marine way of life if they are burdened with too much in the way of potential book smarts BWHAHAHAHA!!! [/Former Air Force]Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andrewwhyte 1 #17 April 19, 2006 D'yever think it means you yanks are just as fucked in the head as the Iranians? Just a question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jlkskycam 0 #18 April 19, 2006 Who ever said there was some mess about God on the filthy lucre and on the "Pledge?" Peoplew talk about it but some mess? Tempest in a teapot at most, near as I can tell. Personally, I don't believe anyone should be required to pledge to anything. Pledge to what they want to and believe, sure, and more power to them, but as a requirement? Yeah, right - you're free in America - free to do as you're told. As for the mention of God in the Pledge, I somewhere remember it being added in the 50's and believe it was done for political reasoning, more than anything else, and I don't hear anyone making a stink about God except for attention-seeking nutjobs on both sides of the issues crying alarm at either the demise of their conception of culture or the fear of religious concepts being rammed down the throats of the non-religious. Do I believe in God? No one's damn business except my own and possibly the God of my choice. Further, some poll, no matter the numbers, ain't gonna convince anyone, unbeliever or not, to question their faith - if they have faith, that is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #19 April 19, 2006 I believe in God and pray to Him. I just don't want the government interfering and telling me what kind of a God to believe in. The government just fucks up everything it touches anyway, God's too important for that. The Founding Fathers understood that too when they seperated church and state. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,058 #20 April 19, 2006 >It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore, I have a >very hard time understanding why there is such a mess about having >"In God We Trust" on our money and having God in the Pledge of >Allegiance. I believe in God. I don't think that should be on our money or in our pledge. I assume you believe that OJ Simpson exists. Would it bother you to put his name on our money? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #21 April 19, 2006 QuoteI assume you believe that OJ Simpson exists. Would it bother you to put his name on our money? Don't you think God carries a bit more weight than O.J.? I do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GARYC24 3 #22 April 19, 2006 Considering money, I don't think "God" would mind having it taken off, probably wasn't HIS idea anyways. Always wonder what HE must think, when $ is used to to make dope deals, stick down dancers pants/panties, used it to hire a hit man, on & on. It's been said money is the root of all Evil, yet it has "In God We Trust" written on it. It all confusing!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #23 April 19, 2006 Where do you fit if you believe in God, but don't really care if it's mentioned in the Pledge or on money, because you've got more important things to be concerned about? Ever get the feeling that some issues are really important, and others are just "applause" issues? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites steveorino 7 #24 April 19, 2006 QuoteWhere do you fit if you believe in God, but don't really care if it's mentioned in the Pledge or on money, because you've got more important things to be concerned about? Ever get the feeling that some issues are really important, and others are just "applause" issues? Put me in that group. Much to do about nothing. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #25 April 19, 2006 I htink the reason the FF did the seperation thing was more to avoid Jesus-based coercion than to keep God sacred, but either way, it's a good thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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kelpdiver 2 #14 April 19, 2006 QuoteI have a very hard time understanding why Seriously? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #15 April 19, 2006 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2181841#2181841Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #16 April 19, 2006 Quote As taken from a US Navy website QuotePotential marine officers have their IQs tested before they are accepted into the Marines. If the score is above 90 they are redirected into the Coast Guard, because it is felt that they will not mold themselves closely enough to the Marine way of life if they are burdened with too much in the way of potential book smarts BWHAHAHAHA!!! [/Former Air Force]Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #17 April 19, 2006 D'yever think it means you yanks are just as fucked in the head as the Iranians? Just a question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlkskycam 0 #18 April 19, 2006 Who ever said there was some mess about God on the filthy lucre and on the "Pledge?" Peoplew talk about it but some mess? Tempest in a teapot at most, near as I can tell. Personally, I don't believe anyone should be required to pledge to anything. Pledge to what they want to and believe, sure, and more power to them, but as a requirement? Yeah, right - you're free in America - free to do as you're told. As for the mention of God in the Pledge, I somewhere remember it being added in the 50's and believe it was done for political reasoning, more than anything else, and I don't hear anyone making a stink about God except for attention-seeking nutjobs on both sides of the issues crying alarm at either the demise of their conception of culture or the fear of religious concepts being rammed down the throats of the non-religious. Do I believe in God? No one's damn business except my own and possibly the God of my choice. Further, some poll, no matter the numbers, ain't gonna convince anyone, unbeliever or not, to question their faith - if they have faith, that is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #19 April 19, 2006 I believe in God and pray to Him. I just don't want the government interfering and telling me what kind of a God to believe in. The government just fucks up everything it touches anyway, God's too important for that. The Founding Fathers understood that too when they seperated church and state. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,058 #20 April 19, 2006 >It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore, I have a >very hard time understanding why there is such a mess about having >"In God We Trust" on our money and having God in the Pledge of >Allegiance. I believe in God. I don't think that should be on our money or in our pledge. I assume you believe that OJ Simpson exists. Would it bother you to put his name on our money? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #21 April 19, 2006 QuoteI assume you believe that OJ Simpson exists. Would it bother you to put his name on our money? Don't you think God carries a bit more weight than O.J.? I do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GARYC24 3 #22 April 19, 2006 Considering money, I don't think "God" would mind having it taken off, probably wasn't HIS idea anyways. Always wonder what HE must think, when $ is used to to make dope deals, stick down dancers pants/panties, used it to hire a hit man, on & on. It's been said money is the root of all Evil, yet it has "In God We Trust" written on it. It all confusing!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #23 April 19, 2006 Where do you fit if you believe in God, but don't really care if it's mentioned in the Pledge or on money, because you've got more important things to be concerned about? Ever get the feeling that some issues are really important, and others are just "applause" issues? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #24 April 19, 2006 QuoteWhere do you fit if you believe in God, but don't really care if it's mentioned in the Pledge or on money, because you've got more important things to be concerned about? Ever get the feeling that some issues are really important, and others are just "applause" issues? Put me in that group. Much to do about nothing. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #25 April 19, 2006 I htink the reason the FF did the seperation thing was more to avoid Jesus-based coercion than to keep God sacred, but either way, it's a good thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites