stevebabin 0 #51 April 20, 2006 Quote Your assumption of having to suspend rational thought in order to believe in God has no basis. From the American Heritage dictionaries, a defination of faith: "Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence." For me, "logical proof" and "material evidence" are crucial to rational thought. Your mileage may vary."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #52 April 20, 2006 Quote It's okay Jay. I know Babin thinks I am a total nutcase, loser, idiot, child, dumba**, freak, fool, imbecile, moron, simpleton, schmuck, etc, oh well!!! . I know lots of people think I am a fool for my faith in Christ, but it doesn't really bother me anymore. I can just continue to love them ( And there ain't nothin' they can do about it!!!) Mwhahahahahahhahahhahahah!!! We are fools for Christ 1 Cor. 4:10 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1 Cor. 1:18 Do not fear the reproach of men or be terrified by their insults Isa. 51:7 I'm so happy! God is good! Wow! You GO Girl!!!!"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #53 April 20, 2006 Don't you mean: Quote Wow! You GO Girl!!!! Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #54 April 20, 2006 Um.....Yeah.....Thanks."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #55 April 20, 2006 Quote For me, "logical proof" and "material evidence" are crucial to rational thought. Your mileage may vary. You sound like you could really bank on this offer: REWARD!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #56 April 20, 2006 Of course that is bullshit since evolution theory does not need to get rid of God to be. There ARE those who recognize evolution theory(and yes, it is an ongoing and always changing idea that has not yet been proven in its entirety - hence the THEORY portion) and still believe in God. But as usual, those who don't believe in evolution like to dumb down the choices. And that is all I have to say. I am not getting into another evolution arguement.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #57 April 20, 2006 the movie "passion of christ" is nothing more than an exercise in mass mind control. it is the most disgusting diatribe yet produced on the mythological virgin-born "saviour". jesus was no more real then than the man in the moon is todaywe are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #58 April 20, 2006 Quote the movie "passion of christ" is nothing more than an exercise in mass mind control. it is the most disgusting diatribe yet produced on the mythological virgin-born "saviour". jesus was no more real then than the man in the moon is today Now that's an in-depth analysis... Real "Free-thinker." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #59 April 20, 2006 http://www.kent-hovind.com/ Yup, he's a quack.... I think I hear the same laughter as Sarah...."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #60 April 20, 2006 Quote [/url]http://www.kent-hovind.com/[url] Yup, he's a quack.... I think I hear the same laughter as Sarah.... So bow up, get yourself a lawyer, and go collect your money if you've got all the answers you need from evolution. He's just a quack. Go take his money. It's a real offer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #61 April 20, 2006 He doesn't have the money.....(you didn't read it, did you?) Don't take it personally that your belief system makes no sense to me. If it works for you, great. Mine works for me just fine. My intent in entering into these silly discussions is to get people to think for themselves. I don't see myself as a sheep, consequently, I don't feel I need a shepherd. I don't presume to know how you see yourself. What do I know anyway...I don't believe in Santa Clause either..."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #62 April 20, 2006 Quote He doesn't have the money.....(you didn't read it, did you?) What makes you think it's not a legitimate offer? Just because the money isn't his personally? Quote I don't see myself as a sheep, consequently, I don't feel I need a shepherd. Quote Are you a good person? Have you taken the test in my sig line? Quote What do I know anyway...I don't believe in Santa Clause either... Santa Clause is ficticious and irrelevant in this conversation. So is the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy. We're having a grown up conversation here. Not telling children's stories. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #63 April 20, 2006 Ok... So why don't you believe in Santa Clause?"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #64 April 20, 2006 Quote Ok... So why don't you believe in Santa Clause? Same reason I don't believe in the Tooth Fairy. You didn't answer my question. Are you a good person? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #65 April 20, 2006 No, I'm not a good person. What have you got against the tooth fairy, anyway?"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #66 April 20, 2006 Quote No, I'm not a good person. What have you got against the tooth fairy, anyway? So, if what the Bible says is true, you're going to hell, correct? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #67 April 20, 2006 Yes."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpingjimmy 0 #68 April 20, 2006 Quote Quote No, I'm not a good person. What have you got against the tooth fairy, anyway? So, if what the Bible says is true, you're going to hell, correct? are you going to hell? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #69 April 20, 2006 Quote Quote No, I'm not a good person. What have you got against the tooth fairy, anyway? So, if what the Bible says is true, you're going to hell, correct? So, if what the Koran says is true, he is probably going to hell then as well. And you too. It is all about perspective, isn't it?Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #70 April 21, 2006 I'm a free thinker too!! Watch: I am a left-handed thunder lifting for the grace of water hampered by me and my. Green is the smell of three sometimes in Autumn. However, i am in need for a puppy and a bagel right now and the tulips bite hard. Can I join your club? Too free?_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n23x 0 #71 April 21, 2006 So Jesus walks into a hotel with a box of nails and says, "can you put me up for the night?" Da dum, chhhhhh! .jim"Don't touch my fucking Easter eggs, I'll be back monday." ~JTFC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #72 April 21, 2006 That is wrong. . .WRONGG. . . . . .So, can you guess where this came from?: "I cant beleive it, Brian. This guy just. . .just lies there and takes it! if it was me, I would have done something about it. . .: "AAUUGGHHH!!" "AAUUGGHHH!!" "AAUUGGHHH!!" "AAUUGGHHH!!" "AAUUGGHHH!!" "AAUUGGHHH. . . HEY, HEY,HEY,HEY. . . HEY. . . HEY. . .HEY. . .Stop it! Stop it. . . . ..Okay?" "Okay. . ." "Okay?" "Okay. . ." "Okay then."_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #73 April 21, 2006 Quote are you going to hell? God would be completely justified in sending me straight to hell based on the fact that I've broken his moral law more times than I can count. It's as if I'm standing in front of a judge who's about to pass sentence on me. I'm already guilty. That is obvious when shown the law. My penalty is a fine which I'm not capable of paying, therefore, I'm going to jail for the rest of my life. I plead with the judge and tell him that I'm really a good person, that I'm sorry and that he should let me go free based on my remorse. However, he is a just judge and must punish my crime whether he likes me or not. Just before passing sentence, someone I don't even know walks in and pays my fine in full. The judge is then able to let me go because justice has been served. In answer to your question, I am not going to hell. I'm going to heaven. Not because I'm a good person but because I'm a bad person who's been forgiven. Jesus Christ suffered and died on a cross to purchase my soul. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #74 April 21, 2006 Quote So, if what the Koran says is true, he is probably going to hell then as well. Depends. Islam is a works based religion. They can't even tell you themselves if their salvation is secure based on their requirements. You constantly wonder, "Am I good enough" when in reality, no one lives up to God's standard of goodness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #75 April 21, 2006 Quote Yes. Does that bother you at all? Would you sell your eye for a million dollars? I suspect not. How much more is your eternal soul worth? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
