Verdict for Zacarias Moussaoui

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Looks like a verdict has been reached. Can't wait to hear it.

I hope he gets teh death penalty, even though it will make him a martyr in the eyes of his own people. We all know the reality...there is no heaven with 40 virgins waiting for this fuck. In my eyes, he will be just another dead bastard who never deserved to live in the first place!

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[Darius11 12]

You know I have not followed this trial at all.

He was not on the plans any one know what the evidence is? Or is he just an escape goat?
How was he responsible for the deaths?

I have no opnion eithere way as i have not followed this at all.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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Looks like a verdict has been reached. Can't wait to hear it.

I hope he gets teh death penalty, even though it will make him a martyr in the eyes of his own people. We all know the reality...there is no heaven with 40 virgins waiting for this fuck. In my eyes, he will be just another dead bastard who never deserved to live in the first place!

1630hrs EST court convenes for session.

We'll hear in about a half hour.

I say jail him for life. No need to add fuel to the fire. Besides, we've got a war going, what more 'revenge' (err I mean justice) do we need?

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There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner
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You know I have not followed this trial at all.

He was not on the plans any one know what the evidence is? Or is he just an escape goat?
How was he responsible for the deaths?

I have no opnion eithere way as i have not followed this at all.

In United States you are considered and accomplice if you know about a crime. You don’t actually have to commit a crime to get into trouble. Moussaoui knew about the thousands of people who were going to die, and did nothing to stop it. He said himself he was part of the team that was supposed to hijack planes. His intentions were the deaths of INNOCENT Americans. There were no governemtn or miliraty personnel in the two towers. The extremest bastards decided to kill innocent people instead of attaking military targets.

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[Andy9o8 2]

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is he just an escape goat?

I've heard of escape plans, escape hatches and escape pods. But an escape goat? All I can say is, thanks for the image!


[PS - no offense. I know English is your 2nd language. It's all in good fun.]

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[replyMoussaoui knew about the thousands of people who were going to die, and did nothing to stop it. He said himself he was part of the team that was supposed to hijack planes. His intentions were the deaths of INNOCENT Americans.

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I say jail him for life.

Fair enough. Human decency says we have to provide shelter from elements (not luxury), adequate nutricious food (not tasty or even a variety).

Put him in solitary in a room that is body temperature, white light, no windows or contact with other humans. No reading or TV or internet. He can spend his remaining years eating the same bland meal (some type of nutrition paste like baby food) with as much water as he requires. He can spend those years in silence staring at 4 white walls and hearing nothing.

Richards

My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.

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I say jail him for life.

Fair enough. Human decency says we have to provide shelter from elements (not luxury), adequate nutricious food (not tasty or even a variety).

Put him in solitary in a room that is body temperature, white light, no windows or contact with other humans. No reading or TV or internet. He can spend his remaining years eating the same bland meal (some type of nutrition paste like baby food) with as much water as he requires. He can spend those years in silence staring at 4 white walls and hearing nothing.

Richards

That's the best alterntaive to death penalty I have ever heard. At least this way he will suffer

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[Michele 1]

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I say jail him for life.

I believe that's what just happened...although it is a weird rendering of the verdict.

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Michele

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That's the best alterntaive to death penalty I have ever heard. At least this way he will suffer

I don't care if he suffers or not. The point is to remove him from society so he doesn't try anything like this again.

I like the blank white room because, if we can't kill him, then we should do the bare minimum to hold him as well as that necessary to keep him from communicating anything harmful to the outside world. Who says he needs light for that matter?

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Unfortunately that would be considered inhumane by many people.

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Unfortunately that would be considered inhumane by many people.

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in·hu·mane, adj., Lacking pity or compassion

Well, technically, wouldn't it be?

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I've heard of escape plans, escape hatches and escape pods. But an escape goat? All I can say is, thanks for the image!

Hi Ho Silver...Away!!

Richards

My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.

[Darius11 12]

I guess that’s what I don’t get. It looks like everyone is pissed so they look at the only person they can take it out on.

He didn’t commit a crime he knew about a crime right? How can someone get Life or the death plenty for knowing about a crime? An accomplice is someone who helps with the crime not some one who has knowledge of a crime.

So does this mean if I see someone selling drugs on the street and don’t do anything about it I could get the same sentence as the drug dealer? WOW I guess we don’t need cops any more

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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Life for Moussaoui is a death sentence. I doubt he would live more than a few years before being killed by another inmate.

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Unfortunately that would be considered inhumane by many people.

That is unfortunate. He has all his basic health needs taken care of. If medical attention is required he can get it. There is no need for him to have contact with other people, nor is there need for him to read or see the news. He has no use for further learning. We are certainly not obliged to provide entertainment or esthetics to his environment.

Richards

My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.

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He didn’t commit a crime he knew about a crime right? How can someone get Life or the death plenty for knowing about a crime? An accomplice is someone who helps with the crime not some one who has knowledge of a crime.

He is not being charged with being aware of the crime after the fact. He was aware that this horrible crime was going to happen well in advance. Knowing this he kept silent and allowed people to be slaughtered for the crime of being "infidels". His silence made it possible for the others to carry out the act. That makes him complicit and therefore guilty.

Richards

My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.

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I say jail him for life.

I believe that's what just happened...although it is a weird rendering of the verdict.

Ciels-
Michele

yes, yes it is:

ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (CNN) -- Al Qaeda terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui should spend the rest of his life in prison for his role in the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States, a federal jury decided Wednesday.

enjoy the rest of your life mr. moussaoui. looks like it'll be long and dull:

There are no bars in Moussaoui's solitary-confinement cell. It is just a small room with a steel toilet, steel sink, and a concrete platform with a mattress. The only view is through the food slot or tiny window in the door. There is no television and no radio. Moussaoui spends 22 hours every day in a cell that is normally reserved for prisoners who are being punished. (He leaves his cell for showering and exercising, which account for the other two hours in a day.)

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0822/p01s02-usju.html

Does whisky count as beer? - Homer
There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner
Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

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I say jail him for life.

Fair enough. Human decency says we have to provide shelter from elements (not luxury), adequate nutricious food (not tasty or even a variety).

Put him in solitary in a room that is body temperature, white light, no windows or contact with other humans. No reading or TV or internet. He can spend his remaining years eating the same bland meal (some type of nutrition paste like baby food) with as much water as he requires. He can spend those years in silence staring at 4 white walls and hearing nothing.

Richards

already on that one Rich. check out that article I linked to. it's from '02. he's been stuck in a $hit hole that mimick's your idea for quite awhile.

Does whisky count as beer? - Homer
There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner
Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

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Zacarias Moussaoui pleaded guilty to all counts against him. This trial was only to determine his sentence, life in prison or death.

He got life in prison and I'm glad. No need to manufacture another martyr

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I'd have much rather seen him get life with hard labor. A good ole' Alabama chain gang would have been suitable.

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No need to manufacture another martyr

Here is the thing though. Hi speople will thkn he is a martyr, but we know live in a world taht's is a little more advanced thatn thinking there is virgins in heaven waiting for you if you kill yourself in the name of God. This is no longer the 1500's. So even if they think he is a martyr, so what? We know better than that...and we wouldnt have to waste any money on keeping this religion-brainwashed, psychologically fuct person alive.

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> but we know live in a world taht's is a little more advanced thatn
> thinking there is virgins in heaven waiting for you if you kill yourself
> in the name of God.

A great many people believe there is a saint at the gate to heaven waiting to welcome you inside if you believe in the right guy. So the belief is common, even if the details differ.

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escape goat

I love the mental image of this term, "Go goat, Go!" Hey Pop, we've been calling it a scapegoat since about 400 AD.

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An accomplice is someone who helps with the crime not some one who has knowledge of a crime.

You couldn't get this any more wrong if you tried.

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