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I guess that’s what I don’t get. It looks like everyone is pissed so they look at the only person they can take it out on.

He didn’t commit a crime he knew about a crime right? How can someone get Life or the death plenty for knowing about a crime? An accomplice is someone who helps with the crime not some one who has knowledge of a crime.

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So does this mean if I see someone selling drugs on the street and don’t do anything about it I could get the same sentence as the drug dealer? WOW I guess we don’t need cops any more


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I believe that justice was served. We shouldn't base our sentence by what we think he wants. It should be by the system we have in place. I am curious what the muslim population both in and out of prison think. Will he be a marked man in the slammer or a hero?

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I believe that justice was served. We shouldn't base our sentence by what we think he wants.



Nicely said. Nor base the sentence on people's desire for revenge, closure, etc. He should be coldly removed from any situation where he can attempt the act again or encourage others to do the same. That's either death, or complete solitary life imprisonment.

And he shouldn't get any opportunity to speak at the sentencing. He had the opportunity to 'testify' that's the only thing that should ever be allowed.

I don't care one bit if solitary for life is his idea of heaven or hell. It's not about him, it's about protecting us (the rest of us in the country and the entire world) from what he's proven and admitted he would do.

I don't care if has a couch or if he's executed - provided we do it the most cheap way and he can't encourage mass killing and destruction again. In a perfect world, execution would be the cheapest solution here, but that's a discussion we've hit before.

Now let's go find Osama. This other guy has been dealt with.

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Well I don't quite understand how you think this guy deserves a nice little life in solitary confinement...



Nice? No way -- there can't be much worse torment than spending life that way. I can't even imagine it. Given a choice, I'd take execution over solitary life imprisonment every time, no questions asked.



According to CNN, he'll have 23 hours alone in a cell each day, and 1 hour of recreation time...also alone. Perhaps that'll satisfy some of the people who are clamoring for his blood. Apparently he'll also be forbidden from speaking publically. I'm quite satisfied with the sentence.

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he'll have 23 hours alone in a cell each day, and 1 hour of recreation time...also alone. Perhaps that'll satisfy some of the people who are clamoring for his blood. Apparently he'll also be forbidden from speaking publically. I'm quite satisfied with the sentence.



If it sticks. What happens in 20 years after he's written a couple children's books and people are protesting his imprisonment.

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I agree i think he role was minimal if any. Hes a wana be terrorist.



Yep and every one who is pissed wants to take there anger and hate out on someone so I guess he will do.

Don’t forget now if anyone knows of anything illegal that might happen better speak up or you will go to jail.

It is a sad day when emotions and frustration make our laws.
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I agree i think he role was minimal if any. Hes a wana be terrorist.



Yep and every one who is pissed wants to take there anger and hate out on someone so I guess he will do.

Don’t forget now if anyone knows of anything illegal that might happen better speak up or you will go to jail.

It is a sad day when emotions and frustration make our laws.



i agree that emotions have no place in the law. i also belive this guy was a total wanabe, I doubt he had any real involvment or even knowledge of 9/11. However, he claims to have had and I do belive that if he could have prevented 9/11 or if anyone has information that can be used to prevent a terror attack and withhold it then they should face jail for thier lack of action. I think this guy is a total idiot and fantasist but I belive it was right that he went to trial and right that he has been imprisoned. I think the verdict was a sensible one that payed away from the hands of the extreamists. Smart move America.
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I agree with you on almost all your points. I just don’t think life in prison is right for a guy who didn’t kill anyone. Whose involvement was not even remotely important to the plan that led to the murders of 9-11.

I think every one who wants him dead or wants him tormented needs to point that anger at where it should be pointed and not at some wannabe
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believe that justice was served.



One of the victim's mother agreed that justice had been served.

She stated that she was glad that there was no death penalty as if the death sentence had been served, then everyone would have to go through appeals for years to come - life impisonment meant an end to the matter.

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I just don’t think life in prison is right for a guy who didn’t kill anyone. Whose involvement was not even remotely important to the plan that led to the murders of 9-11.



He claimed he was a part of it. He admitted guilt. If he had said he was innocent I would agree. But he admitted guilt. Now if he was trying to be a big hero and lied, then he is an idiot.

But he had his day in court and was judged according to his actions and his plea of guilty.

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<> - So, then he's guilty of Perjury, which does NOT carry a life sentence in this country.... life must be really tough that side of the pond.



In that case set the bastard free!!!
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If he knew and could have prevented it then I think its appropriate. If he lied then he really is an idiot but the desire to commit mass murder makes him more dangerous than just a fantasist, therefore i think its appropriate to segregate him from society. i don't want to see him tormented but placed in a place where he doesn't get the chance to live out his fantasy of killing people.

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I agree with you on almost all your points. I just don’t think life in prison is right for a guy who didn’t kill anyone. Whose involvement was not even remotely important to the plan that led to the murders of 9-11.

I think every one who wants him dead or wants him tormented needs to point that anger at where it should be pointed and not at some wannabe


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<> - So, then he's guilty of Perjury, which does NOT carry a life sentence in this country.... life must be really tough that side of the pond.



I would agree, except he admitted guit to terrorism, not perjury.

It is really simple. He admitted guilt. Even if he was not guilty, he admitted he was. Are we supposed to try and prove he is lying? There was enough evidence that he knew, and he admitted he knew.

It is really clear. I could see you defending him if he claimed to be innocent, but he admitted guilt.

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life must be really tough that side of the pond



Why do you have to make snide remarks? You don't see me making snide remarks about your Country do you? Can you act nice, or are we done?

The guy had a chance to prove he was not guilty, and he instead admitted guilt.

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The guy had a chance to prove he was not guilty, and he instead admitted guilt.



Plenty of loony-toons people admit guilt to stuff they didn't do all the time.

Honestly, there looks like at least some level of scape-goatism going on with the guy. The public needed to personify the evil-doers, and Moussoui was the closest thing available. He got the attentiion, we got the culprit -- win win.


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Honestly, there looks like at least some level of scape-goatism going on with the guy. The public needed to personify the evil-doers, and Moussoui was the closest thing available. He got the attentiion, we got the culprit -- win win.



I think that most certainly has played a role. What scares me a bit is people saying, well he should be jailed for what he could possibly do.

Last time I checked we don't jail people for the possibility of committing a crime.

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Honestly, there looks like at least some level of scape-goatism going on with the guy. The public needed to personify the evil-doers, and Moussoui was the closest thing available. He got the attentiion, we got the culprit -- win win.



I think that most certainly has played a role. What scares me a bit is people saying, well he should be jailed for what he could possibly do.

Last time I checked we don't jail people for the possibility of committing a crime.




Doode....the guy was a bastard who admitted to guilt. It's different sitting in Canada critisizing how US works, but I guarantee you would feel different if a plane hits a building in Toronto, and a person you know was killed for no good reason.
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Honestly, there looks like at least some level of scape-goatism going on with the guy. The public needed to personify the evil-doers, and Moussoui was the closest thing available. He got the attentiion, we got the culprit -- win win.



I think that most certainly has played a role. What scares me a bit is people saying, well he should be jailed for what he could possibly do.

Last time I checked we don't jail people for the possibility of committing a crime.




Doode....the guy was a bastard who admitted to guilt. It's different sitting in Canada critisizing how US works, but I guarantee you would feel different if a plane hits a building in Toronto, and a person you know was killed for no good reason.



That’s actually the point. No one is saying he is a nice guy what I am saying is that emotions played a huge part in the life sentence he received. The Law should not be compromised for emotions. Thats all
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>I think the verdict was a sensible one that payed away from the
>hands of the extreamists. Smart move America.

I agree. There was a lot of emotion involved; a lot of people would have felt really good to see him killed. But the evidence didn't support that, and the jury decided that life in prison was more appropriate. Makes me proud of our justice system, that it can put emotion aside and consider even someone like this scumbag dispassionately.

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The Law should not be compromised for emotions. Thats all



exactly -

what is the standardized sentence for accessory and intent to commit murder (x 3000+ counts)

any special penalties for killing foreign nationals or diplomats? The WTC had an international population.

what is the standardized sentence for accessory and intent to commit terrorism.

penalty for accessory and intent to kidnap (a couple hundred people)

ditto vandalism, public destruction, theft of an aircraft(s), etc......

Does accessory to murder have one penalty? Or does it increase with each victim or potential victim? Does 3000 deaths and (many more planned) add up the penalties? To how much?

As far as emotion guiding verdicts, it sucks. It's another reason that a 'statement' should not be allowed. Only testimony.

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>I think the verdict was a sensible one that payed away from the
>hands of the extreamists. Smart move America.

I agree. There was a lot of emotion involved; a lot of people would have felt really good to see him killed. But the evidence didn't support that, and the jury decided that life in prison was more appropriate. Makes me proud of our justice system, that it can put emotion aside and consider even someone like this scumbag dispassionately.



half the crowd here thing he shouldn't even be penalized that much because he didn't wield a box cutter

probably a tenth of them think he deserves a medal for making a statement of free speech against the 'fascists':S

frankly, I'm with you on this one

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