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>and as the risk of genetic problems increased . . . .
So God created genetic problems for siblings after the fact? Odd that he did so for every species on the planet at the same time.
So God created genetic problems for siblings after the fact? Odd that he did so for every species on the planet at the same time.
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QuoteWhat is a "distant sister"?
A female descendant? Come on man…
QuoteHow does sin affect genetics?
I have no idea. All I know is that this used to be a perfect world. Now it’s not.
QuoteWho were the people who might slay Cain when he'd left Eden and gone to the land of Nod? Why did Cain need to build a city if just three people were living there?
QuoteSome claim that the passage in Genesis 4:16–17 means that Cain went to the land of Nod and found a wife. Thus, they conclude there must have been another race of people on the earth, who were not descendants of Adam, who produced Cain’s wife.
And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord and lived in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son, Enoch (Gen. 4: 16–17).
From what has been stated above, it is clear that all humans, Cain’s wife included, are descendants of Adam. However, this passage does not say that Cain went to the land of Nod and found a wife. John Calvin in commenting on these verses states: ‘From the context we may gather that Cain, before he slew his brother, had married a wife; otherwise Moses would now have related something respecting his marriage.’4
Cain was married before he went to the land of Nod. He didn’t find a wife there, but ‘knew’ (i.e., had sexual relations with) his wife there.5
Behold! You have driven me out from the face of the earth today, and I shall be hidden from Your face. And I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth, and it shall be that anyone who finds me shall kill me (Gen. 4:14).
Some claim that there had to be lots of people on the earth other than Adam and Eve’s descendants, otherwise Cain wouldn’t have been fearful of people wanting to slay him because he killed Abel.
First of all, why would a stranger want to kill Cain? Only a close relative of Abel would care enough.
Secondly, Cain and Abel were born quite some time before the event of Abel’s death. Genesis 4:3 states: ‘And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.’
Note the phrase ‘in the process of time.’ We know Seth was born when Adam was 130 years old (Gen. 5:3), and Eve saw him as a ‘replacement’ for Abel (Gen. 4:25). Therefore, the time period from Cain’s birth to Abel’s death may have been 100 years or more—allowing plenty of time for other children of Adam and Eve to marry and have children. By the time Abel was killed, there may have been a considerable number of descendants of Adam and Eve, making up several generations.
Cain’s WifeQuoteWhat were the other things in heaven above that the Israelites were not allowed to make images (Exodus 20:4). Certainly not angels, since they put angels on the ark (Ex. 25) and tabernacle (26). Other gods, maybe?
What? You don’t think there’s more in heaven than God and the angels? Just God and a few angels sitting on some clouds? Picture the infinite expanse of the universe. God is bigger than that.
The point behind the commandment is below.QuoteThe prohibition against the worship of other gods required that no image be made of them, nor could anyone make an image of the Lord God himself. He is too great to be represented by anything made by human hands. As applied to believers in Christ, the second commandment forbids making images of God or creatures for the purpose of worship, prayer or any sort of spiritual help. The principle behind this command applies equally to all three persons of the Trinity. It is impossible for any image or picture of God to truly represent God’s personal glory and character. God is so transcendent, so holy and unsearchable, that any image of him dishonors him and detracts from his true nature and from what he has revealed about himself. The believer’s concepts of God must not be based on images or pictures of him, but on God’s Word and on his revelation in the person and work of Jesus Christ.
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QuoteSome claim that the passage in Genesis 4:16–17 means that Cain went to the land of Nod and found a wife. Thus, they conclude there must have been another race of people on the earth, who were not descendants of Adam, who produced Cain’s wife.
And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord and lived in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son, Enoch (Gen. 4: 16–17).
From what has been stated above, it is clear that all humans, Cain’s wife included, are descendants of Adam. However, this passage does not say that Cain went to the land of Nod and found a wife. John Calvin in commenting on these verses states: ‘From the context we may gather that Cain, before he slew his brother, had married a wife; otherwise Moses would now have related something respecting his marriage.’4
Cain was married before he went to the land of Nod. He didn’t find a wife there, but ‘knew’ (i.e., had sexual relations with) his wife there.5
Behold! You have driven me out from the face of the earth today, and I shall be hidden from Your face. And I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth, and it shall be that anyone who finds me shall kill me (Gen. 4:14).
Some claim that there had to be lots of people on the earth other than Adam and Eve’s descendants, otherwise Cain wouldn’t have been fearful of people wanting to slay him because he killed Abel.
First of all, why would a stranger want to kill Cain? Only a close relative of Abel would care enough.
Secondly, Cain and Abel were born quite some time before the event of Abel’s death. Genesis 4:3 states: ‘And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.’
Note the phrase ‘in the process of time.’ We know Seth was born when Adam was 130 years old (Gen. 5:3), and Eve saw him as a ‘replacement’ for Abel (Gen. 4:25). Therefore, the time period from Cain’s birth to Abel’s death may have been 100 years or more—allowing plenty of time for other children of Adam and Eve to marry and have children. By the time Abel was killed, there may have been a considerable number of descendants of Adam and Eve, making up several generations.
Do you actually, literally believe that stuff? That Adam and Eve were real people in the garden of Eden, that the first humans really lived till they were hundreds of years old?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
Oh, very droll!
What is a "distant sister"? How does sin affect genetics?
Who were the people who might slay Cain when he'd left Eden and gone to the land of Nod? Why did Cain need to build a city if just three people were living there?
What were the other things in heaven above that the Israelites were not allowed to make images (Exodus 20:4). Certainly not angels, since they put angels on the ark (Ex. 25) and tabernacle (26). Other gods, maybe?
The only way the contradictions can be explained is by weasel words.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.