billvon 3,010 #101 May 15, 2006 > If you can't show your face, it's as if you're not fully a human being. In your opinion. Some might consider a woman to not be fully a woman if she is forced to cover up her breasts. Both are culturally motivated; neither one should be law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #102 May 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteIf you can't show your face, it's as if you're not fully a human being. No, no, no. It doesn't mean you're not fully human. Read some of Darius' posting; it simply means that they don't value their women as sexual objects. Apparently, a nose is a sexual object. And maybe an eyebrow. For sure the chin is. You're correct in your comment that it makes a woman less than fully human, in public at least. It denotes the concept of ownership - those women are owned!! by their fathers and then their husbands. Demanding that a woman cover up in the manner we're discussing makes the woman a "non-person." Fully half of the population are "non-persons" and that is abhorrent. Has anyone ever read "The Handmaid's Tale" by Margaret Atwood? When I read it for the first time, the most immediate comparison I had was that to fundamentalist Islamic societies. I've read it several more times since then, and it's fascinating in it's parralells. Ciels- Michele Handmaid's Tale was definitely an interesting read...and I can see the parallels, too.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #103 May 15, 2006 QuoteI think the main difference is that the Islamic fundamentalists have better weapons. Maybe your all just jelous of them? Reminds me of some guys that dressed as nuns on Halloween many years ago. Had NWG embroidered on their frock (or whatever you call it). Invariably, everyone they bumped into asked them "What's NWG?" To which they'd throw open the frock revealing toy guns and shout repeatedly "Nuns With Guns" as they pretended to fire them over their heads. Don't know wheere they got the idea, but they were so ahead of the times." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unformed 0 #104 May 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteI think the main difference is that the Islamic fundamentalists have better weapons. Maybe your all just jelous of them? Reminds me of some guys that dressed as nuns on Halloween many years ago. Had NWG embroidered on their frock (or whatever you call it). Invariably, everyone they bumped into asked them "What's NWG?" To which they'd throw open the frock revealing toy guns and shout repeatedly "Nuns With Guns" as they pretended to fire them over their heads. Don't know wheere they got the idea, but they were so ahead of the times. Thanks for that. I now know my halloween costume.This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 2 #105 May 16, 2006 Quote> If you can't show your face, it's as if you're not fully a human being. In your opinion. Some might consider a woman to not be fully a woman if she is forced to cover up her breasts. Both are culturally motivated; neither one should be law. Nothing to do with opinion. The importance of the face is anatomically based. It is the receiving point for 4 of the 5 senses. That fact is independent of any particular culture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #106 May 17, 2006 Yes, thats true, but look at who was behind the Taliban, Saudi Wahibists.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #107 May 17, 2006 LOL...When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
