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billvon 3,013
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>you can see so far from a high horse.
Stupid liberals want everyone to ride compact horses anyway.
Stupid liberals want everyone to ride compact horses anyway.
rehmwa 2
Quote>you can see so far from a high horse.
Stupid liberals want everyone to ride compact horses anyway.
That's the smart liberals. The stupid liberals just DON'T want anyone (but them) to ride high horses, but don't suggest any alternative.
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SkyDekker 1,465
QuoteThis is an interesting but mis-leading statement.
So is posting a story and heralding it as great news, when really all it says is that you are adding less to a massive debt than expected.
rushmc 23
Quote>you can see so far from a high horse.
Stupid liberals want everyone to ride compact horses anyway.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
skydyvr 0
QuoteI don't really care if I could benefit from it or not.
Not surprising.
Introspection is a giant pain in the ass.
. . =(_8^(1)
rushmc 23
I just posted the story and did not herald anything, but I do not think I was very clear as to my point either 
I just was pointing out that this debt story is blown way up. While the number is big it is a small compared to the GNP.
Also in there I hoped one would see that the Bush cuts have actually increased revenues (as have evey other tax cut) Not right away but, after the economy get crankin money flow increases. It has worked every time it has been tryed.
I just was pointing out that this debt story is blown way up. While the number is big it is a small compared to the GNP.
Also in there I hoped one would see that the Bush cuts have actually increased revenues (as have evey other tax cut) Not right away but, after the economy get crankin money flow increases. It has worked every time it has been tryed.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
Amazon 7
QuoteStupid liberals want everyone to ride compact horses anyway.
Those little fuckers break down way too easy....I tried riding a shetland one time....poor thingjust did not run right
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SkyDekker 1,465
QuoteNot surprising.
Introspection is a giant pain in the ass.
Benefitting from a statement has nothing to do with introspection. Here is some introspection for you....I am not here to win arguments. From that follows that I don't care if I could benefit from it.
I know they are very tough concepts to grasp....
Lucky... 0
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Excellent, that just means you are adding less to your massive debt than expected. You are right, that is great news....
This is an interesting but mis-leading statement. While the dept is big from a numbers perspective (and believe me I am not condoning US debt for mulitple reasons) but it is not even close to the worst it has been when compared to the US GNP. It is small and managable when looking at it from that direction.
However, that is not an excuse for out of control spending.
I think you mean the DEFICIT, not the DEBT. You do know the difference, right? The GDP / GNP has an indirect relationship to the debt, but annual budgets rely on GNP info so they know how much is going to or has come in, in the way of tax revenue.
QuoteThis is an interesting but mis-leading statement. While the dept is big from a numbers perspective but it is not even close to the worst it has been when compared to the US GNP.
The debt is the worst is has ever been by a longshot.
Clinton in Jan, 1993: approx 4T
Clinton in Jan, 2001: approx 5.5T
Now: Approx 8.4T
Bush has doubled the increases under Clinton in just 5.5 years. Projected it will triple Clinton's increase in 8 years.
Canada's dollar, which is highly tied to the US Dollar, is making huge grounds largely due to this phenominon.
The debt skyrocketed under Reagan and Bush1 in teh 12 years, CLinton actually leveled this off and then Bush2 took office and it resumed its vertical ascent once again.
http://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm
Clinton was the first president in 40 years to realize and leave a surplus, and not a small one. Like 230B as I recall. The annual surplus directly affects the national debt.
If the conservatives who keep posting this assertion would take the time to understand the fiscal workings and the recent (25 years) who have done what to/for it, they might revert back to moral issues and leave this one alone.
The debt isn't manageable, however it can be reduced, but only by taxx increases for the rich and a great GNP/GDP.
rushmc 23
>The debt isn't manageable, however it can be reduced, but only by taxx increases for the rich and a great GNP/GDP. <
Spoken like a true liberal..........
Spoken like a true liberal..........
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
billvon 3,013
>Spoken like a true liberal..........
Yep. Reality has a well-known liberal bias. A world where you can spend as much as you like and never have to pay it back is much nicer to imagine, even if reality isn't like that.
Yep. Reality has a well-known liberal bias. A world where you can spend as much as you like and never have to pay it back is much nicer to imagine, even if reality isn't like that.
Quote>The debt isn't manageable, however it can be reduced, but only by taxx increases for the rich and a great GNP/GDP. <
Spoken like a true liberal..........
I agree!!!
My favorite way to pay down a debt is to spend less than what I'm taking in (something the US government isn't doing all that well with lately) and to take the difference and apply it towards my debts. Sure one can add to the government coffers by taxing their citizens more. But what ever happened to spending less?
Try not to worry about the things you have no control over
TheAnvil 0
Note that cutting spending was not in the answer. LMFAO.
Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
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Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!
skydyvr 0
QuoteHere is some introspection for you....I am not here to win arguments.
And in this non-endeavor, you have been truly successful.
I know you're not here to win arguments -- you're here mostly to make insults toward the US and it's people.
. . =(_8^(1)
Ok so far we have documented in this series of arguments that though Clinton was a philandering fat headed boob, Bush has proven to be a fiscally flatulent ferret faced fuck.
Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires.
D S #3.1415
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Lucky... 0
Quote>The debt isn't manageable, however it can be reduced, but only by taxx increases for the rich and a great GNP/GDP. <
Spoken like a true liberal..........
OK, aside from rhetoric, using my data, explain how we got where we are. Again, using history to exemplify better times, worse times, what measures got us there, etc........ or just keep the rhetoric going w/o reference to any data and NOT surprise me.
Lucky... 0
QuoteNote that cutting spending was not in the answer. LMFAO.
From the party that authored 25 years of runaway spending, I find that ironic.
Lucky... 0
QuoteOk so far we have documented in this series of arguments that though Clinton was a philandering fat headed boob, Bush has proven to be a fiscally flatulent ferret faced fuck.
True on both accounts, but the righties will attempt to transfer the former as being fault for the latter......
rushmc 23
Quote>Spoken like a true liberal..........
Yep. Reality has a well-known liberal bias. A world where you can spend as much as you like and never have to pay it back is much nicer to imagine, even if reality isn't like that.
Half truths when it comes to tax revenues recieved! At least in the context of my post.....
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
rushmc 23
QuoteQuote>The debt isn't manageable, however it can be reduced, but only by taxx increases for the rich and a great GNP/GDP. <
Spoken like a true liberal..........
I agree!!!
My favorite way to pay down a debt is to spend less than what I'm taking in (something the US government isn't doing all that well with lately) and to take the difference and apply it towards my debts. Sure one can add to the government coffers by taxing their citizens more. But what ever happened to spending less?
Agreed! Add to that more tax revenue by taxing people less and it works even faster!
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
SkyDekker 1,465
QuoteI know you're not here to win arguments -- you're here mostly to make insults toward the US and it's people.
Great, another ASSumption, that's three who made ASSes of themselves.
TheAnvil 0
I'm libertarian - don't recall us ever having control of either legislative hour or the executive branch. When you left leaning people cease bemoaning eliminating programs that have no measurable effect and stop calliing for increases in mandatory spending, perhaps we right leaning people will do something other than laugh when you speak of deficits.
Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!
actually, he "got" Dekker, but thanks for the credit.
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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
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