JohnRich 4 #1 May 24, 2006 The anti-gun folks have taken two more hard shots to the success of their gun-ban agenda recently: 1) Federal Law Negates D.C.'s Suit Against Gunmakers"A lawsuit in the District against gunmakers was dismissed yesterday by a D.C. Superior Court judge who ruled that the suit was precisely the sort of claim that a new federal law was intended to block. The suit, filed by the city and by victims of gun violence and their families, aimed to hold gun manufacturers liable for the flow of firearms into the District and for the carnage created by the sale of illegal weapons."2) New Law Results in California Judge Dismissing Lawsuit Against Firearm Manufacturers"Citing the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act that blocks unwarranted lawsuits against firearms manufacturers, Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Charles W. Stoll today ruled from the bench ordering complete dismissal of all causes of action against defendants Beretta, Smith & Wesson, Colt and Turners Outdoor Sports, a California firearms dealer, in a case involving the gang murder of a Burbank police officer." Maybe they'll get the hint now: Gun manufacturers are not responsbile for the criminal misuse of their legally marketed products. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #2 May 24, 2006 Next their going to want to sue car manufacturers for death caused by automotive accidents. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #3 May 24, 2006 QuoteNext their going to want to sue car manufacturers for death caused by automotive accidents. do you just WANT the anti-gunners to pull the "at least you need a license to drive" tirade out? HMMM? DO YOU? {{didn't think so}} ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #4 May 24, 2006 Lately I am getting sick of the humane race. Every body talks too much. Every one is a fucking victim. And all deaths unless it’s a 100 year old are on timely. If I see another fucking person crying about his or her poor kid who died looking for someone to blame I am going to puke. Shit happens people just need to understand we die accident happen and they need to get on with their lives. I just saw that they’re putting the attack cat on trial on AOL I mean common it’s a fucking cat. I wish i had a license to kill. Sorry rant over.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #5 May 24, 2006 I feel that way while reading speaker's corner. That and when the voices tell me to burn things. Is that wrong? Edit: And do the voices have to ALL sound like Ross Perot? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #6 May 24, 2006 No man it's not wrong. Burn all the fucks, shoot all the whiny bitchs, and kill all the lawyers will maybe not Lawrocket i like him.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #7 May 24, 2006 QuoteBurn all the fucks, shoot all the whiny bitchs, and kill all the lawyers... Now you sound just like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. He would be proud of you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #8 May 24, 2006 Quote Gun-o-phobes Take Two to the Chest by JohnRich Ya know John, I could probably agree with your positions more readily if the language didn't start with threatening inuendo. The phrase "Two to the Chest" isn't exactly going to persuade anyone into believing you have a rational point of view.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #9 May 24, 2006 Quote if the language didn't start with threatening inuendo. consider it a tit for tat response. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 May 24, 2006 Understand that it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever to respond to gun-shy people with language that only reinforces the idea that gun owners are violent, and in this case, potentially murderous. A more "reasoned" headline might be along the lines of; "Anti-gun lawsuits off-target."quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #11 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteNext their going to want to sue car manufacturers for death caused by automotive accidents. do you just WANT the anti-gunners to pull the "at least you need a license to drive" tirade out? HMMM? DO YOU? {{didn't think so}} Won't cut it. Guns and the manufacture and sale of, are the most resgulated item in the US. And owning a car is not protected by the constitution. tirade away, you have already lost the argument"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #12 May 25, 2006 Quote Guns and the manufacture and sale of, are the most resgulated item in the US. Somehow I doubt this. I'm -almost- certain nuclear power and aviation lead the way.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #13 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuote Guns and the manufacture and sale of, are the most resgulated item in the US. Somehow I doubt this. I'm -almost- certain nuclear power and aviation lead the way. those aren't items Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,076 #14 May 25, 2006 >Ya know John, I could probably agree with your positions more readily >if the language didn't start with threatening inuendo. Fear not! The next time someone starts a thread with "Look! A new penis substitute for gun nuts!" gun aficionados will still call them names. It's only a problem when the _other_ guy does it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #15 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuote Guns and the manufacture and sale of, are the most regulated retail item in the US. Somehow I doubt this. I'm -almost- certain nuclear power and aviation lead the way. I fixed it."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #16 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuote Gun-o-phobes Take Two to the Chest by JohnRich Ya know John, I could probably agree with your positions more readily if the language didn't start with threatening inuendo. The phrase "Two to the Chest" isn't exactly going to persuade anyone into believing you have a rational point of view. Wow...no tongue and cheek in your world huh? So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #17 May 25, 2006 If we're playing semantics, define 'retail'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #18 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuote Gun-o-phobes Take Two to the Chest by JohnRich Ya know John, I could probably agree with your positions more readily if the language didn't start with threatening inuendo. The phrase "Two to the Chest" isn't exactly going to persuade anyone into believing you have a rational point of view. How do you know he's trying to persuade anyone? Most anti-gunners I've come across are too busy yapping like starved chihuahuas to even begin to listen to the voice of reason, let alone be open to the possibility of being persuaded by sound argumentation on the issue. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #19 May 25, 2006 QuoteUnderstand that it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever to respond to gun-shy people with language that only reinforces the idea that gun owners are violent, and in this case, potentially murderous. harhar - "gun-shy people" is one way to refer to the lying sacks of shit that head groups like the VPC. The ones that waste our money in unsupportable (and thankfully now, DOA) lawsuits. so yeah, I'm with John - I don't feel the need to take a higher road with these types. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #20 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteUnderstand that it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever to respond to gun-shy people with language that only reinforces the idea that gun owners are violent, and in this case, potentially murderous. harhar - "gun-shy people" is one way to refer to the lying sacks of shit that head groups like the VPC. The ones that waste our money in unsupportable (and thankfully now, DOA) lawsuits. so yeah, I'm with John - I don't feel the need to take a higher road with these types. isn't that like calling illegal immigrants "undocumented workers?" all social engineering is preceeded by verbal engineering. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #21 May 25, 2006 Clearly another xample of why the UN will have to intervean in the US to sort out your gun problems.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lurch 0 #22 May 25, 2006 Fortunately for all of us here, we have far more than enough guns to make sure THAT will never happen without depopulating the nation. Attitudes like that are precisely what raise an American's hackles and the specific reason why we keep em. Kinda like Switzerland but a lot pushier...Live and learn... or die, and teach by example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #23 May 25, 2006 QuoteClearly another xample of why the UN will have to intervean in the US to sort out your gun problems. ya know I have heard people saying crap like that for nearly all my life...ooooh I am sooooooo scared of the fucking UN. I would wager that if the UN tried that shit here in the US, even if they had a treaty they are going to get their asses handed to them so badly that it will make the insurgents look like kindergardners. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #24 May 25, 2006 The Un won't need to invade you we'll just use your own cops and army after the Anti Gun lobby has been supported to the hilt America will be disarmed from within, if you want to shoot your own people well, no change there I suppose. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #25 May 25, 2006 Unfortunatly if we (the U.S.) keep terrorizing the world we 're gonna for sure need all those guns when everyone gangs up on us but by then guns ain't gonna helpI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites