Darius11 12 #126 August 10, 2007 Maybe I am misunderstanding the article but from what I can see it does not say that the murders did not occur. All it is saying is they can understand how it could occur in such a hostile environment am I right on that or did I misread?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #127 August 10, 2007 Quote Quote No they won't They will continue to claim that these Marines were guilty as sin. Because they want them to be guilty, very badly They won't be able to read the report with all of that egg on their face, or utter an apology while eating crow. I don’t think any one on the right can see any egg on anyone’s face considering thanks to this administration they have been swimming in a pool of shit that is geting deeper.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #128 August 10, 2007 the issue at hand was not whether or not it occurred but whether or not the Marine in question was guilty of a crime. That is why it was not addressed. JAG lawyers do not grandstand, nor make statements to the press regarding anything but he case at hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #129 August 10, 2007 Well if the people were killed, but the government is letting the guy go due to stress and situations I really don’t see a cause for celebration. The reason our marines are in such environments is because of our faulty intelligence, so when people die that other wise would still be alive it is a sad day. Even more so when our government holds no one accountable. No different then when a cop gets off for shooting an unarmed man 42 times. It shows that we don’t believe in justice and will treat our own on a different set of rules then we expect others to follow. As stated before when we make excuses for a bad apple other then proper punishment it makes all of the good guys look just as tainted. Again I understand/ or can try to understand the difficulties of urban warfare, however the fact is we did not need to be there in the first place. I am not surprised at this result as we have given ridiculously light sentences when our troops have been convicted of war crimes. What was the last one 5 years for murder. I would be very pissed if someone killed my family and was let go to due to bull shit reasons. Specifically if they are invaders of my land as well.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #130 August 10, 2007 I wonder why the next of kin to the dead Iraqis refused to have an autopsy performed in order to collect evidence that this incidence was in fact a murder? Heck, they could not even agree on how many people were dead. There were far too many lies told in order to bring the charges on these Marines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #131 August 10, 2007 QuoteI wonder why the next of kin to the dead Iraqis refused to have an autopsy performed in order to collect evidence that this incidence was in fact a murder? Heck, they could not even agree on how many people were dead. There were far too many lies told in order to bring the charges on these Marines. I don’t know all the details of the incident actually I don’t know much about the incident. The article makes it sound like the marine was responsible for the death of 12 people. Is that fact or assumption? I thought the circumstance of the murder were in question not the murder it self.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #132 August 10, 2007 Because you are living in a totally different .... CSI driven world. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites