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Channman 2
> It's not exactly a secret. He even mentions it in his memoirs.
There goes his chances of ever running for President, the media will tear him appart for this infraction.
But I guess we all know now that My Lai prepared him for the Iraq war cover up.
Unless of course Kallend your only making a funny.
There goes his chances of ever running for President, the media will tear him appart for this infraction.
But I guess we all know now that My Lai prepared him for the Iraq war cover up.
Unless of course Kallend your only making a funny.
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An inconvienent truth.
http://www.usvetdsp.com/story13.htm
As an Army officer, Powell's superiors considered him a consummate "team player." They could count on Powell to haul their water despite any contradictory feelings he may have had. Powell's blind loyalty was demonstrated during a second tour in Vietnam (1968-1969), where as deputy assistant chief of staff for operations G-3 at Americal Division headquarters in Chu Lai, he was asked to handle a potentially embarrassing letter a young soldier had written to Gen. Creighton Abrams, commander of all U.S. forces in Vietnam.
The soldier had written about rumors of a massacre that Americal Division soldiers had committed in the hamlet of My Lai 4 in South Vietnam. Although he did not mention My Lai in the letter, the soldier complained that Americal soldiers were indiscriminately killing Vietnamese civilians. Such acts, the young soldier warned, "are carried on at entire unit levels and thereby acquire the aspect of sanctioned policy."
Several days after he received a copy of the letter, Powell sent a memo to his superior, the adjutant general, making the outrageous claim that the young soldier had not given enough specifics upon which to base an inquiry. The purposely blind Powell said the soldier's charges were false except for "isolated instances." He wrote that "relations between American soldiers and the Vietnamese are excellent." Powell's damage control efforts soon proved fruitless and the My Lai massacre burst onto the world stage like an atomic explosion, severely damaging the U.S. war effort in Vietnam. On the orders of Lt. William Calley, soldiers from the U.S. Army Americal Division had indeed indiscriminantly gunned down an entire village of men, women and children.
Although Powell's attempt to cover up the massacre was unsuccessful, he had at least proven his willingness to do what was necessary to please his bosses. For his two tours of duty in Vietnam, Powell, who was never exposed to serious combat, was awarded the Purple Heart for a minor foot wound he received after stepping on a "punji stick." He was later awarded a Bronze Star for heroism and the Soldiers Medal for pulling two men free from a non-combat related helicopter crash.
http://www.usvetdsp.com/story13.htm
As an Army officer, Powell's superiors considered him a consummate "team player." They could count on Powell to haul their water despite any contradictory feelings he may have had. Powell's blind loyalty was demonstrated during a second tour in Vietnam (1968-1969), where as deputy assistant chief of staff for operations G-3 at Americal Division headquarters in Chu Lai, he was asked to handle a potentially embarrassing letter a young soldier had written to Gen. Creighton Abrams, commander of all U.S. forces in Vietnam.
The soldier had written about rumors of a massacre that Americal Division soldiers had committed in the hamlet of My Lai 4 in South Vietnam. Although he did not mention My Lai in the letter, the soldier complained that Americal soldiers were indiscriminately killing Vietnamese civilians. Such acts, the young soldier warned, "are carried on at entire unit levels and thereby acquire the aspect of sanctioned policy."
Several days after he received a copy of the letter, Powell sent a memo to his superior, the adjutant general, making the outrageous claim that the young soldier had not given enough specifics upon which to base an inquiry. The purposely blind Powell said the soldier's charges were false except for "isolated instances." He wrote that "relations between American soldiers and the Vietnamese are excellent." Powell's damage control efforts soon proved fruitless and the My Lai massacre burst onto the world stage like an atomic explosion, severely damaging the U.S. war effort in Vietnam. On the orders of Lt. William Calley, soldiers from the U.S. Army Americal Division had indeed indiscriminantly gunned down an entire village of men, women and children.
Although Powell's attempt to cover up the massacre was unsuccessful, he had at least proven his willingness to do what was necessary to please his bosses. For his two tours of duty in Vietnam, Powell, who was never exposed to serious combat, was awarded the Purple Heart for a minor foot wound he received after stepping on a "punji stick." He was later awarded a Bronze Star for heroism and the Soldiers Medal for pulling two men free from a non-combat related helicopter crash.
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Some of us remember the Vietnam era.
Did you hear John Kerry was in Vietnam?
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QuoteDid you hear John Kerry was in Vietnam?
Did you hear that Colin Powell was in Vietnam?
Powell, who was never exposed to serious combat, was awarded the Purple Heart for a minor foot wound he received after stepping on a "punji stick." He was later awarded a Bronze Star for heroism and the Soldiers Medal for pulling two men free from a non-combat related helicopter crash
Hmmm now where have I heard things like this before..... hmmmmmmm has your subscrition to the Swiftboat Vets expired yet?.... how about donations to them.
You are saying a General wasn't exposed to combat? Gee how amazing. I can't believe it!!! 
I submit to you.....(cause I know you like pretty dots)............
John Kerry's no Colin Powell................
I submit to you.....(cause I know you like pretty dots)............
John Kerry's no Colin Powell................
mr2mk1g 10
QuoteYou are saying a General wasn't exposed to combat? Gee how amazing. I can't believe it!!!
He didn't enter the army as a General, genius – he was a Major at the time of My Lai.
billvon 2,994
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>Why has it taken so long before an investigation was initiated?
Because when atrocities like these are first reported (by people like Sy Hersh) they are labeled as part of the lying liberal media, and their reports are studiously ignored and/or attacked as being unpatriotic.
Because when atrocities like these are first reported (by people like Sy Hersh) they are labeled as part of the lying liberal media, and their reports are studiously ignored and/or attacked as being unpatriotic.
kallend 2,027
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Some of us remember the Vietnam era.
Did you hear John Kerry was in Vietnam?
Unlike the guy who spent a couple of years defending Alabama and Texas from attack by the NVA. When he could be bothered to turn up for duty.
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QuoteQuoteYou are saying a General wasn't exposed to combat? Gee how amazing. I can't believe it!!!
He didn't enter the army as a General, genius – he was a Major at the time of My Lai.
Well guess what genius. We weren't talking about his rank during My Lai. We were talking about his rank when he recieved the Purple Heart. Try to follow along, please!
I was wrong about his rank at that time, though. Feel better, now?
Quote>Why has it taken so long before an investigation was initiated?
Because when atrocities like these are first reported (by people like Sy Hersh) they are labeled as part of the lying liberal media, and their reports are studiously ignored and/or attacked as being unpatriotic.
Not from what I have observed. Most have taken a "wait and see" until the facts come out position.
American troops in Ishaqi have now been exonerated.
When are the Lefties going to understand we are in a war against an enemy that thinks nothing of cutting innocent peoples heads off, blows up innocent women and children and would set up a massacre of innocent people to try and destroy the moral of our troops and create anti-war dissent in the U.S.?
Don't you realize you are being used as dupes?
When are the Lefties going to understand we are in a war against an enemy that thinks nothing of cutting innocent peoples heads off, blows up innocent women and children and would set up a massacre of innocent people to try and destroy the moral of our troops and create anti-war dissent in the U.S.?
Don't you realize you are being used as dupes?
mikkey 0
QuoteAmerican troops in Ishaqi have now been exonerated.
When are the Lefties going to understand we are in a war against an enemy that thinks nothing of cutting innocent peoples heads off, blows up innocent women and children and would set up a massacre of innocent people to try and destroy the moral of our troops and create anti-war dissent in the U.S.?
Don't you realize you are being used as dupes?
Hmmm... The Pentagon says that "correct procedure" was used. Question is: Are those "procedures" really acceptable? Also, is an internal investigation to expected to be independent??
QuoteA report filed by Iraqi police accused US troops of rounding up and deliberately shooting 11 people in the house in Ishaqi, including five children and four women, before blowing up the building.
Maj Gen Caldwell said the US investigation into events in Ishaqi, where the military says it was attempting to capture insurgents, had found no wrongdoing on the part of the troops.
Four bodies including that of an insurgent were found after the raid while up to nine "collateral deaths" resulted from the US raid, according to the investigation.
It added that a precise death toll could not be determined because of collapsed walls and debris.
All the correct procedures were followed when troops came under fire as they approached the house, Maj Gen Caldwell said.
We should alos keep in mind the following:
QuoteOther probes are being carried out into the alleged massacre at Haditha, and also into claims that an Iraqi man was deliberately killed on 26 April in Hamandiya - and that the circumstances were covered up. Seven marines and a navy sailor are being held over the claims.
The Iraqi government has also launched an investigation into the alleged massacre at Haditha, where eyewitnesses claim US marines shot dead 24 civilians after a roadside bomb attack in November.
Now, how would you feel if you were an Iraqi? Do you really think that Iraq is better off now? BTW - unemployment is about 50% and electricity is on only availabe 50% of the time in Baghdad.
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Channman 2
> Don't you realize you are being used as dupes?
I'm sure the Left is still holding out some hope that there will be an oppertunity to continue to point blame on the military until they and their willing Drive By Media can find a story that sticks.
It is interesting to note that the US asked to examine the bodies to do alittle CSI work and were refused by family members. Maybe there was some concern the real truth would come out, just a guess on my part.
I'm sure it will be a short wait before the next thread comes along attacking the military and those in harms way as murdering bastards. Maybe Senator Murtha will start us all off with some more thought provoking insight the next time he travels to Iraq to give his un-dying devotion to his fellow Marines as he reports from the front lines.
I'm sure the Left is still holding out some hope that there will be an oppertunity to continue to point blame on the military until they and their willing Drive By Media can find a story that sticks.
It is interesting to note that the US asked to examine the bodies to do alittle CSI work and were refused by family members. Maybe there was some concern the real truth would come out, just a guess on my part.
I'm sure it will be a short wait before the next thread comes along attacking the military and those in harms way as murdering bastards. Maybe Senator Murtha will start us all off with some more thought provoking insight the next time he travels to Iraq to give his un-dying devotion to his fellow Marines as he reports from the front lines.
QuoteWhen are the Lefties going to understand we are in a war against an enemy that thinks nothing of cutting innocent peoples heads off, blows up innocent women and children and would set up a massacre of innocent people to try and destroy the moral of our troops and create anti-war dissent in the U.S.?
And the blame for these things?
George W. Bush.
Great job, Georgie.
The death of all these people would not have come about if this administration had not invaded a country that poised no threat and then completely destroyed the country, all the while not one person responsible for 9-11 has been brought to justice.
What a shame it is to live under the shadow of such a decietful government. What a shame it is that so many are placed in such difficult situations under the assumption that they are fighting terrorism. I feel sorry for the soilders who are pushed physically and mentaly to commit such acts as to blowing the brains out of children due to the stress they are under. I feel even worst for the poor people of Iraq that this administration has purposely put in the worst possible situation.
Some people will never see the colossal blunders of this administration. What a shame.
"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
kallend 2,027
QuoteQuoteWhen are the Lefties going to understand we are in a war against an enemy that thinks nothing of cutting innocent peoples heads off, blows up innocent women and children and would set up a massacre of innocent people to try and destroy the moral of our troops and create anti-war dissent in the U.S.?
And the blame for these things?
George W. Bush.
Great job, Georgie.
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Some people will never see the colossal blunders of this administration. What a shame.
But hey, getting that tax reduction is worth all the other incompetence and venality.
Follow the money.
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When are the Lefties going to understand we are in a war against an enemy that thinks nothing of cutting innocent peoples heads off, blows up innocent women and children and would set up a massacre of innocent people to try and destroy the moral of our troops and create anti-war dissent in the U.S.?
This is a culture clash.
America has never been involved in a culture clash. Vietnam was different - we were standing up to the Soviets.
We're in a culture clash where people will commit suicide. Low intensity events, until they can put together a big intensity event.
We're not geared for that kind of conflict.
We are all engines of karma
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Follow the money.
Yep.
We are all engines of karma
mr2mk1g 10
I do apologize; he was just a Lieutenant.
Iraq Lawyer Blasts U.S. Reaction to Deaths
Saturday, June 3, 2006 3:56 PM EDT
The Associated Press
By HAMZA HENDAWI
Listen to Audio
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) — A lawyer who had several relatives among 24 Iraqis allegedly slain by U.S. Marines last fall and is representing kin of other victims complained in a videotape Saturday that American compensation paid to the families was inadequate.
Khaled Salem Rsayef also said U.S. officers accused him and other relatives of lying when they recounted the shootings in their first meeting with the military after the Nov. 19 deaths in the western town of Haditha. He did not say when they met.
In interviews taped Friday by an AP Television News cameraman, 9-year-old survivor Iman Walid Abdul-Hameed demanded that those responsible be executed.
"Because they hurt us, we want the Americans to be executed," Iman said, wearing a violet-colored striped shirt, matching pants and headband while sitting on a couch at a relative's home. She was reluctant to speak at first, but was eventually persuaded by her relatives.
The girl lost her parents, a brother, grandparents and two uncles in the incident. Another brother, Abdul-Rahman, who was 6 at the time, and a sister, Asia, who was 5 months old, survived. Iman and Abdul-Rahman were slightly injured.
"We did not do anything to them," Iman said of the Marines who allegedly killed unarmed civilians after becoming enraged when a comrade died in a roadside bombing.
The deaths in Haditha and two other incidents involving allegations of wrongful killings have put the U.S. military on the defensive, drawing charges from Iraqis that American troops show little regard for the lives of innocent people.
U.S. authorities are investigating the killings in Haditha and another town, but on Saturday cleared U.S. troops of wrongdoing in the deaths of up to 13 Iraqis in a village north of Baghdad. Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said U.S. troops responded appropriately to an attack by insurgents during a raid in Ishaqi on March 15. A roadside bomb hit a U.S. convoy in Ishaqi on Saturday, wounding two U.S. soldiers.
The director of Haditha General Hospital told AP Television News the 24 victims in that city included eight women and five children. Walid Abdul-Khaleq al-Obeidi said the victims mostly had chest and head wounds and were delivered to the hospital by Marines about 14 hours after witnesses said the last gunshot was heard at the death scene.
One body was charred, al-Obeidi added. That was believed to be Iman's father, Walid Abdul-Hameed, who witnesses said was burned to death after a grenade was thrown into his room.
Rsayef, the lawyer, said that during the first meeting between families of the Haditha victims and U.S. military officers, the Americans told the families that the 24 deaths were caused by the roadside bomb and by "terrorists."
"We had a heated argument," he said.
He said the U.S. officers also said during the meeting that they had no objection to TV news teams visiting the Euphrates River town to report on the deaths.
"In reality, they did not make good on their promises and sealed off the town for a month after the shootings," said Rsayef, who had a brother and sister-in-law, an uncle, an aunt and several cousins among the 24 killed.
Despite blaming insurgents for the killings, the U.S. military gave the families $2,500 for each person killed in the incident about a month later, except for four brothers, all of fighting age, he said.
"When I received the compensation money, I found out that it was $2,500 for each victim," Rsayef said. "I told them that it's a small sum that does not match the magnitude of the disaster."
He noted that Libya's government paid millions of dollars in compensation to the families of the Lockerbie airline bombing victims. "Is American blood worth more than Iraqi blood?" he asked.
In an off-camera conversation with the cameraman, Iman, the 9-year-old survivor, told of hiding under a bed for hours after the shootings. She said Marines finally found her and initially took her for dead when they pulled her out.
The Marines later flew her and her brother Abdul-Rahman to a nearby hospital for treatment of their minor wounds. They were later moved to a Baghdad hospital.
The AP Television News tape showed walls pockmarked with bullet holes inside a stone house belonging to those killed. A dusty TV set with an apparent bullet hole in one corner sat on the floor, and furniture was piled up to the side in the house.
At the time of the incident, the Marine Corps said 15 civilians had been killed in Haditha from a roadside bombing and a Marine firefight with insurgents. It said eight insurgents also were killed.
According to U.S. lawmakers recently briefed by Pentagon officials, the deaths followed the killing of a U.S. Marine by a roadside bomb aimed at a military convoy Nov. 19. Angry Marines stormed nearby homes, killing the occupants, and also killed as the passengers of a taxi, the lawmakers said.
The New York Times said Saturday that commanders learned within two days that civilians in Haditha were killed by gunfire and not a bomb, quoting a senior Marine officer it did not identify. The officer said officials had no information suggesting the civilians had been killed deliberately and saw no reason to investigate further.
In addition to the Haditha case, U.S. authorities are investigating seven Marines and a Navy medic for possible murder, kidnapping and conspiracy charges in the April 26 shooting death of an Iraqi man in Hamandiya.
On Thursday, Iraq said it was launching its own probe into the Haditha killings, with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki sharply criticizing the conduct of U.S. troops in Iraq.
His comments were unusually harsh, suggesting to some that he might be using the incident to bolster his image as a national unity leader at a time of rising sectarian tensions. Al-Maliki is a Shiite, while the Haditha victims were Sunni Arabs, the minority that is the backbone of Iraq's insurgency.
An adviser to al-Maliki, Adnan al-Kazimi, denied Saturday that the announcement was a public relations exercise, saying an Iraqi investigation into the killings was popular among all Iraqis.
Al-Maliki will announce the makeup and mandate of the investigating committee in the next few days, al-Kazimi told The Associated Press. It will be made up of officials from the ministries of defense, interior and human rights and will report directly to al-Maliki, he said.
The findings of U.S. investigations into the killings are to be made available to the Iraqi government, with only the parts pertaining to security of U.S. forces withheld, he said.
The Haditha incident and others have underlined the immense pressure on U.S. troops in Iraq. They are often isolated from Iraqis by language and culture, are away from their families for months at a time, and are fighting a phantom enemy with little sympathy or help from civilians.
Many Iraqis, on their part, see the Americans and other foreign troops as occupiers who are after the country's oil wealth and accuse them of having little regard for their lives.
Caldwell, the general who is spokesman for the U.S.-led multinational forces in Iraq, said Saturday that allegations U.S. troops are using undue force are a blow to the credibility of the coalition.
"The behavior of our forces is a key component in the overall success of our mission," he told Arab journalists. "The credibility of our coalition forces is too valuable a commodity to squander needlessly. Every incident and allegation, no matter how small, strikes a blow against that credibility."
Anyone want to comment on this?
I see huge holes in this story, on both sides.
Saturday, June 3, 2006 3:56 PM EDT
The Associated Press
By HAMZA HENDAWI
Listen to Audio
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) — A lawyer who had several relatives among 24 Iraqis allegedly slain by U.S. Marines last fall and is representing kin of other victims complained in a videotape Saturday that American compensation paid to the families was inadequate.
Khaled Salem Rsayef also said U.S. officers accused him and other relatives of lying when they recounted the shootings in their first meeting with the military after the Nov. 19 deaths in the western town of Haditha. He did not say when they met.
In interviews taped Friday by an AP Television News cameraman, 9-year-old survivor Iman Walid Abdul-Hameed demanded that those responsible be executed.
"Because they hurt us, we want the Americans to be executed," Iman said, wearing a violet-colored striped shirt, matching pants and headband while sitting on a couch at a relative's home. She was reluctant to speak at first, but was eventually persuaded by her relatives.
The girl lost her parents, a brother, grandparents and two uncles in the incident. Another brother, Abdul-Rahman, who was 6 at the time, and a sister, Asia, who was 5 months old, survived. Iman and Abdul-Rahman were slightly injured.
"We did not do anything to them," Iman said of the Marines who allegedly killed unarmed civilians after becoming enraged when a comrade died in a roadside bombing.
The deaths in Haditha and two other incidents involving allegations of wrongful killings have put the U.S. military on the defensive, drawing charges from Iraqis that American troops show little regard for the lives of innocent people.
U.S. authorities are investigating the killings in Haditha and another town, but on Saturday cleared U.S. troops of wrongdoing in the deaths of up to 13 Iraqis in a village north of Baghdad. Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said U.S. troops responded appropriately to an attack by insurgents during a raid in Ishaqi on March 15. A roadside bomb hit a U.S. convoy in Ishaqi on Saturday, wounding two U.S. soldiers.
The director of Haditha General Hospital told AP Television News the 24 victims in that city included eight women and five children. Walid Abdul-Khaleq al-Obeidi said the victims mostly had chest and head wounds and were delivered to the hospital by Marines about 14 hours after witnesses said the last gunshot was heard at the death scene.
One body was charred, al-Obeidi added. That was believed to be Iman's father, Walid Abdul-Hameed, who witnesses said was burned to death after a grenade was thrown into his room.
Rsayef, the lawyer, said that during the first meeting between families of the Haditha victims and U.S. military officers, the Americans told the families that the 24 deaths were caused by the roadside bomb and by "terrorists."
"We had a heated argument," he said.
He said the U.S. officers also said during the meeting that they had no objection to TV news teams visiting the Euphrates River town to report on the deaths.
"In reality, they did not make good on their promises and sealed off the town for a month after the shootings," said Rsayef, who had a brother and sister-in-law, an uncle, an aunt and several cousins among the 24 killed.
Despite blaming insurgents for the killings, the U.S. military gave the families $2,500 for each person killed in the incident about a month later, except for four brothers, all of fighting age, he said.
"When I received the compensation money, I found out that it was $2,500 for each victim," Rsayef said. "I told them that it's a small sum that does not match the magnitude of the disaster."
He noted that Libya's government paid millions of dollars in compensation to the families of the Lockerbie airline bombing victims. "Is American blood worth more than Iraqi blood?" he asked.
In an off-camera conversation with the cameraman, Iman, the 9-year-old survivor, told of hiding under a bed for hours after the shootings. She said Marines finally found her and initially took her for dead when they pulled her out.
The Marines later flew her and her brother Abdul-Rahman to a nearby hospital for treatment of their minor wounds. They were later moved to a Baghdad hospital.
The AP Television News tape showed walls pockmarked with bullet holes inside a stone house belonging to those killed. A dusty TV set with an apparent bullet hole in one corner sat on the floor, and furniture was piled up to the side in the house.
At the time of the incident, the Marine Corps said 15 civilians had been killed in Haditha from a roadside bombing and a Marine firefight with insurgents. It said eight insurgents also were killed.
According to U.S. lawmakers recently briefed by Pentagon officials, the deaths followed the killing of a U.S. Marine by a roadside bomb aimed at a military convoy Nov. 19. Angry Marines stormed nearby homes, killing the occupants, and also killed as the passengers of a taxi, the lawmakers said.
The New York Times said Saturday that commanders learned within two days that civilians in Haditha were killed by gunfire and not a bomb, quoting a senior Marine officer it did not identify. The officer said officials had no information suggesting the civilians had been killed deliberately and saw no reason to investigate further.
In addition to the Haditha case, U.S. authorities are investigating seven Marines and a Navy medic for possible murder, kidnapping and conspiracy charges in the April 26 shooting death of an Iraqi man in Hamandiya.
On Thursday, Iraq said it was launching its own probe into the Haditha killings, with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki sharply criticizing the conduct of U.S. troops in Iraq.
His comments were unusually harsh, suggesting to some that he might be using the incident to bolster his image as a national unity leader at a time of rising sectarian tensions. Al-Maliki is a Shiite, while the Haditha victims were Sunni Arabs, the minority that is the backbone of Iraq's insurgency.
An adviser to al-Maliki, Adnan al-Kazimi, denied Saturday that the announcement was a public relations exercise, saying an Iraqi investigation into the killings was popular among all Iraqis.
Al-Maliki will announce the makeup and mandate of the investigating committee in the next few days, al-Kazimi told The Associated Press. It will be made up of officials from the ministries of defense, interior and human rights and will report directly to al-Maliki, he said.
The findings of U.S. investigations into the killings are to be made available to the Iraqi government, with only the parts pertaining to security of U.S. forces withheld, he said.
The Haditha incident and others have underlined the immense pressure on U.S. troops in Iraq. They are often isolated from Iraqis by language and culture, are away from their families for months at a time, and are fighting a phantom enemy with little sympathy or help from civilians.
Many Iraqis, on their part, see the Americans and other foreign troops as occupiers who are after the country's oil wealth and accuse them of having little regard for their lives.
Caldwell, the general who is spokesman for the U.S.-led multinational forces in Iraq, said Saturday that allegations U.S. troops are using undue force are a blow to the credibility of the coalition.
"The behavior of our forces is a key component in the overall success of our mission," he told Arab journalists. "The credibility of our coalition forces is too valuable a commodity to squander needlessly. Every incident and allegation, no matter how small, strikes a blow against that credibility."
Anyone want to comment on this?
I see huge holes in this story, on both sides.
Trent 0
Something smells like shit with this whole story.
Right now, I see 2 possibilities:
1. These Marines went nuts and killed everyone they saw, but had a sudden change of heart and shipped a handful of their "victims" to a hospital, knowing they were witnesses to this "massacre."
2. This is a setup to further tarnish the US and the dead were either fighting, purposely put in a crossfire by the real bad guys, or killed prior to the troops' arrival.
I prefer to give the benefit of the doubt for case #1... I don't think that our Marines are that bloodthirsty, or at a minimum... stupid enough to not finish off any "witnesses".
Anything's possible I guess... but something stinks bad.
Right now, I see 2 possibilities:
1. These Marines went nuts and killed everyone they saw, but had a sudden change of heart and shipped a handful of their "victims" to a hospital, knowing they were witnesses to this "massacre."
2. This is a setup to further tarnish the US and the dead were either fighting, purposely put in a crossfire by the real bad guys, or killed prior to the troops' arrival.
I prefer to give the benefit of the doubt for case #1... I don't think that our Marines are that bloodthirsty, or at a minimum... stupid enough to not finish off any "witnesses".
Anything's possible I guess... but something stinks bad.
Oh, hello again!
kallend 2,027
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Anything's possible I guess... but something stinks bad.
Correct. The Administration that put these boys in an untenable situation stinks.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
Perhaps you missed the remark,or is it that you just ran from it?
What could possibly be political about a war that was initiated on false premise? Fuckin lefties, Jesus Christ.
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