warpedskydiver 0 #1 June 8, 2006 Last night at around 11pm I heard a noise outside and my dog started barking. I went outside to find two grown men (20yrs+) in my yard 15 feet from a bedroom window and trying to break down the old farm fence with a bicycle in order to "cut through" a wooded area belonging to a fequenty robbed car dealership. ( I live on the end of a cul-de-sac and it is a dead end subdivision ) I told them to stop and leave my yard NOW. One perp says "fuck you old man go back in your house" ( I am 44 ) I inform him if he does not leave I will set the dog on him, his reply? " I will sue you you cant touch me even if I break into your house" To me that was a threat of implied violence against my property. They also informed me that they would " be back " Gee I hope so ....hmm the Benelli holds 8 rounds BTW I did call the cops ASAP and they took 20 minutes to arrive. Anyone else ever have a problem like this? I have had car jackings and armed robbers wind up trying to seek refuge in my yard, only to find me, or my dogs, or both home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #2 June 8, 2006 Quote BTW I did call the cops ASAP and they took 20 minutes to arrive. What did the cop advise?We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #3 June 8, 2006 Call us if they come back I am better off buying a squeegee to get rid of their remains if they come back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #4 June 8, 2006 Another great comment from the two perps: "I will kick that dog if he bites me" I wonder why so many people are soooo stupid? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #5 June 8, 2006 Quote I am better off buying a squeegee to get rid of their remains if they come back. Find a friend with a septic tank. The only thing left will be the dental fillings.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #6 June 8, 2006 I think they picked the wrong yard and the wrong "old" man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #7 June 8, 2006 Hehehe I have no idea of what you are speaking of Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,424 #8 June 8, 2006 QuoteFuck you old man go back in your house" Everything after - was the wrong response. Raise the M3, point at perps, "No, fuck you. Now get off my yard" BLAM!! "Officer, when I told them to get off my yard, they came at me and I was in fear of my life." End of class - next subject?Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #9 June 8, 2006 Quote "Officer, when I told them to get off my yard, they came at me and I was in fear of my life." You might want to have a throw down in this case.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #10 June 8, 2006 The sound of your 12guage racking a nice 3" 00 buck round into the chamber would have them singing a very different tune. Having that nasty pepper spray that come in the big can that cops use for riots would have been good also.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #11 June 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteFuck you old man go back in your house" Everything after - was the wrong response. Raise the M3, point at perps, "No, fuck you. Now get off my yard" BLAM!! "Officer, when I told them to get off my yard, they came at me and I was in fear of my life." End of class - next subject? While I'm not an advocate of lying, BIGUN isn't far off the mark here. I wouldn't have gone out w/o being armed (I'm NEVER unarmed) and after smartass #1's first remark, out would come the firearm and at that point I'm sure that would be the end of the discussion. The perps would have disbanded. If the didn't and decided to call your bluff, it would have been time to neutralize any threat. (And to you anti-gunners, no this isn't bravado or machismo or whatever your delusional little minds think it is so get the f*ck over it) I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zoobrothertom 5 #12 June 8, 2006 handy if needed. But, in most jurisdictions just shoot'em in the front within a reasonable distance indicating fear of bodily harm and you're ok. Especially at night on your own property. Well, at least in the south...____________________________________ I'm back in the USA!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #13 June 8, 2006 QuoteThe sound of your 12guage racking a nice 3" 00 buck round into the chamber would have them singing a very different tune. No racking sound it's an Auto M1 Tactical with a Surefire light in the forearm. They did say " were gonna stuff that flashlight up your ass if you don get it off of me" I wonder why they thought I was holding a flashlight? in hindsight, yes I could have shot them both dead, but instead let them go on to live their miserable lives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,564 #14 June 8, 2006 Quotein hindsight, yes I could have shot them both dead, but instead let them go on to live their miserable lives. Yes you could have, but then you would have had to live with the knowledge that you murdered two people in cold blood. Although on second thoughts, why not shoot them. After all they tried to break a fence and threatened you with (shudder) legal action. Scumbags obviously don't deserve to liveDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #15 June 8, 2006 Yes you could have, but then you would have had to live with the knowledge that you murdered two people in cold blood.Quote Yeah like that would bother me, geez you don't know me do ya? Although on second thoughts, why not shoot them. After all they tried to break a fence and threatened you with (shudder) legal action. Scumbags obviously don't deserve to live Must have been your family members huh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites micro 0 #16 June 8, 2006 whoops, sorry, didn't know you had your shotgun out already, my bad. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #17 June 8, 2006 NP at all ...great minds think alike, or is it similar training gets similar results? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites micro 0 #18 June 8, 2006 QuoteQuotein hindsight, yes I could have shot them both dead, but instead let them go on to live their miserable lives. Yes you could have, but then you would have had to live with the knowledge that you murdered two people in cold blood. Although on second thoughts, why not shoot them. After all they tried to break a fence and threatened you with (shudder) legal action. Scumbags obviously don't deserve to live Perhaps you should look up "murder" and "self defense" and "cold blood." Was he right in not shooting them? Probably. He didn't say they were going towards him and he didn't appear to be in imminant danger. However, this very easily and very quickly could've turned to a justifiable shooting. It started w/ the tresbassers verbally threatening the landowner. He is well w/i his rights to defend himself and his property. They threaten to shove the flashlight up his ass and your post is in defense of THEM? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #19 June 8, 2006 Try visiting with a detective on your local PD or Sheriff's Dept. and see what he 'advises', should this happen again. Ask him right-out, what could happen 'if' you did shoot them on your property. I feel that if, the same two pukes show-up again, the law would be on your side. It's not right, that you should have to live like that. Good luck to you and let us know what comes of it. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,564 #20 June 8, 2006 QuoteYeah like that would bother me, geez you don't know me do ya? Y'know what, I don't think I want to. QuoteMust have been your family members huh? What the fuck are you talking about? As far as I can make out you are attempting to insinuate that a) I break and enter b) I sue people or c) My family are scum. Either way you are pretty far off the mark, and not a little insulting.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites micro 0 #21 June 8, 2006 QuoteNP at all ...great minds think alike, or is it similar training gets similar results? I think it's both and I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #22 June 8, 2006 Thanks, there are some good cops in town but there is a decided slant towards the criminals rights in this town, that is one reason I want to leave and they can have the town they want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites StreetScooby 5 #23 June 8, 2006 Quote Well, at least in the south...Wink I live in Westchester county, New York (a little north of NYC). You'd go to jail here if you did that. There was an incident here recently where a Navy guy was at home visiting his mom. His mom had just won a large amount of money through a local pool at her pub. A well known thief/junkie broke into her house to steal it. The Navy guy shot him dead _IN_ the house. The NYC DA wanted to prosecute the _NAVY_ guy.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites StreetScooby 5 #24 June 8, 2006 Quote Y'know what, I don't think I want to. Just a note to all on this thread. jakee lives in the UK where they're not allowed to own guns or defend themselves. Their culture is very different from our own, and we should be thankful for it.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites micro 0 #25 June 8, 2006 QuoteQuote Well, at least in the south...Wink I live in Westchester county, New York (a little north of NYC). You'd go to jail here if you did that. There was an incident here recently where a Navy guy was at home visiting his mom. His mom had just won a large amount of money through a local pool at her pub. A well known thief/junkie broke into her house to steal it. The Navy guy shot him dead _IN_ the house. The NYC DA wanted to prosecute the _NAVY_ guy. OMG, don't even get me started about Westchester Co. NY... I've had trouble there myself over carry issues there... they're real big on ignoring federal interstate firearm transport law which trumps their stupid little county gun law and have arrested several people who were legally transporting locked and unloaded firearms through the county. There's a lawsuit right now against them for this illegal activity. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 1 of 7 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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jakee 1,564 #14 June 8, 2006 Quotein hindsight, yes I could have shot them both dead, but instead let them go on to live their miserable lives. Yes you could have, but then you would have had to live with the knowledge that you murdered two people in cold blood. Although on second thoughts, why not shoot them. After all they tried to break a fence and threatened you with (shudder) legal action. Scumbags obviously don't deserve to liveDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #15 June 8, 2006 Yes you could have, but then you would have had to live with the knowledge that you murdered two people in cold blood.Quote Yeah like that would bother me, geez you don't know me do ya? Although on second thoughts, why not shoot them. After all they tried to break a fence and threatened you with (shudder) legal action. Scumbags obviously don't deserve to live Must have been your family members huh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #16 June 8, 2006 whoops, sorry, didn't know you had your shotgun out already, my bad. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #17 June 8, 2006 NP at all ...great minds think alike, or is it similar training gets similar results? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #18 June 8, 2006 QuoteQuotein hindsight, yes I could have shot them both dead, but instead let them go on to live their miserable lives. Yes you could have, but then you would have had to live with the knowledge that you murdered two people in cold blood. Although on second thoughts, why not shoot them. After all they tried to break a fence and threatened you with (shudder) legal action. Scumbags obviously don't deserve to live Perhaps you should look up "murder" and "self defense" and "cold blood." Was he right in not shooting them? Probably. He didn't say they were going towards him and he didn't appear to be in imminant danger. However, this very easily and very quickly could've turned to a justifiable shooting. It started w/ the tresbassers verbally threatening the landowner. He is well w/i his rights to defend himself and his property. They threaten to shove the flashlight up his ass and your post is in defense of THEM? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #19 June 8, 2006 Try visiting with a detective on your local PD or Sheriff's Dept. and see what he 'advises', should this happen again. Ask him right-out, what could happen 'if' you did shoot them on your property. I feel that if, the same two pukes show-up again, the law would be on your side. It's not right, that you should have to live like that. Good luck to you and let us know what comes of it. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #20 June 8, 2006 QuoteYeah like that would bother me, geez you don't know me do ya? Y'know what, I don't think I want to. QuoteMust have been your family members huh? What the fuck are you talking about? As far as I can make out you are attempting to insinuate that a) I break and enter b) I sue people or c) My family are scum. Either way you are pretty far off the mark, and not a little insulting.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #21 June 8, 2006 QuoteNP at all ...great minds think alike, or is it similar training gets similar results? I think it's both and I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #22 June 8, 2006 Thanks, there are some good cops in town but there is a decided slant towards the criminals rights in this town, that is one reason I want to leave and they can have the town they want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #23 June 8, 2006 Quote Well, at least in the south...Wink I live in Westchester county, New York (a little north of NYC). You'd go to jail here if you did that. There was an incident here recently where a Navy guy was at home visiting his mom. His mom had just won a large amount of money through a local pool at her pub. A well known thief/junkie broke into her house to steal it. The Navy guy shot him dead _IN_ the house. The NYC DA wanted to prosecute the _NAVY_ guy.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #24 June 8, 2006 Quote Y'know what, I don't think I want to. Just a note to all on this thread. jakee lives in the UK where they're not allowed to own guns or defend themselves. Their culture is very different from our own, and we should be thankful for it.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #25 June 8, 2006 QuoteQuote Well, at least in the south...Wink I live in Westchester county, New York (a little north of NYC). You'd go to jail here if you did that. There was an incident here recently where a Navy guy was at home visiting his mom. His mom had just won a large amount of money through a local pool at her pub. A well known thief/junkie broke into her house to steal it. The Navy guy shot him dead _IN_ the house. The NYC DA wanted to prosecute the _NAVY_ guy. OMG, don't even get me started about Westchester Co. NY... I've had trouble there myself over carry issues there... they're real big on ignoring federal interstate firearm transport law which trumps their stupid little county gun law and have arrested several people who were legally transporting locked and unloaded firearms through the county. There's a lawsuit right now against them for this illegal activity. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
