civilians vs soldiers

[D22369 0]

Your alarm goes off, you hit the snooze and sleep for another 10 minutes.

He stays up for days on end.
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You take a warm shower to help you wake up.

He goes days or weeks without running water.
__________________________

You complain of a "headache", and call in sick.

He gets shot at, as others are hit, and keeps moving forward.
__________________________

You put on your anti war/don't support the troops shirt, and go meet up with
your friends.

He still fights for your right to wear that shirt.
__________________________

You make sure you're cell phone is in your pocket.

He clutches the cross hanging on his chain next to his dog tags.
__________________________

You talk trash on your "buddies" that aren't with you.

He knows he may not see some of his buddies again.

__________________________

You walk down the beach, staring at all the pretty girls.

He walks the streets, searching for insurgents and terrorists.
__________________________

You complain about how hot it is.

He wears his heavy gear, not daring to take off his helmet to wipe his brow.
__________________________

You go out to lunch, and complain because the restaurant got your order
wrong.

He does not get to eat today.
__________________________

Your maid makes your bed and washes your clothes.

He wears the same things for months, but makes sure his weapons are clean.
__________________________

You go to the mall and get your hair redone.

He doesn't have time to brush his teeth today.
__________________________

You are angry because your class ran 5 minutes over.

He is told he will be held an extra 2 months.
__________________________


You call your girlfriend and set a date for that night.

He waits for the mail to see if there is a letter from home.
__________________________

You hug and kiss your girlfriend, like you do everyday.

He holds his letter close and smells his love's perfume.
__________________________

You roll your eyes as a baby cries.

He gets a letter with pictures of his new child, and wonders if they'll ever
meet.
__________________________

You criticize your government, and say that war never solves anything.

He sees the innocent tortured and killed by their own government and
remembers why he is fighting.
__________________________

You hear the jokes about the war, and make fun of the men like him.

He hears the gun fire and bombs.
__________________________

You see only what the media wants you to see.

He sees the bodies lying around him.
__________________________

You are asked to go to the store by your parents. You don't.

He does what he is told.
__________________________


You stay at home and watch TV.

He takes whatever time he is given to call and write home, sleep, and eat.
__________________________

You crawl into your bed, with down pillows, and try to get comfortable.

He crawls under a tank for shade and a 5 minute nap, only to be woken by gun
fire.
__________________________

You sit there and judge him, saying the world is a worse place because of
men like him.

If only there were more men and women like him.

Roy

They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

[StreetScooby 5]

Poignant.

We are all engines of karma

[Scoop 0]

Very nice, I have upmost respect for all soldiers wherever they are based. Maybe its the case that the majority is silent and only the people with something shitty to say stand up and say it so here's my turn. Lots of us support you guys and girls and I think its a great thing thats being done in the middle east

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[warpedskydiver 0]

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[Gravitymaster 0]

Nice. Thank you for posting that.

[kallend 2,088]

Last time I checked they were all just like my son - volunteers. He doesn't whine about it or expect poignant poems about his mates.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Gravitymaster 0]

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Last time I checked they were all just like my son - volunteers. He doesn't whine about it or expect poignant poems about his mates.

Perhaps your son could teach you something.

[kallend 2,088]

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Last time I checked they were all just like my son - volunteers. He doesn't whine about it or expect poignant poems about his mates.

Perhaps your son could teach you something.

I don't want poignant poems about me either.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[SpeedRacer 1]

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I don't want poignant poems about me either.

...There once was a man named Kallend....

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[Dolph 0]

While it is better to be a civilian in a country not at war than being a solider in an active conflict, statistics from WWII show that the civilian population *really* gets it when the war is taken to them.

Given the situation in for instance Iraq, I'd rather be in a front line USMC group than an Iraqi civilian.

Perhaps it is prudent with an equal celebration of the ordinay citizen living, raising a family and working in a war torn country is in order as well.

[billvon 3,044]

Your one warning.

[Dancergirl 0]

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Your alarm goes off, you hit the snooze and sleep for another 10 minutes.

He stays up for days on end.
__________________________

You take a warm shower to help you wake up.

He goes days or weeks without running water.
__________________________

You complain of a "headache", and call in sick.

He gets shot at, as others are hit, and keeps moving forward.
__________________________

You put on your anti war/don't support the troops shirt, and go meet up with
your friends.

He still fights for your right to wear that shirt.
__________________________

You make sure you're cell phone is in your pocket.

He clutches the cross hanging on his chain next to his dog tags.
__________________________

You talk trash on your "buddies" that aren't with you.

He knows he may not see some of his buddies again.

__________________________

You walk down the beach, staring at all the pretty girls.

He walks the streets, searching for insurgents and terrorists.
__________________________

You complain about how hot it is.

He wears his heavy gear, not daring to take off his helmet to wipe his brow.
__________________________

You go out to lunch, and complain because the restaurant got your order
wrong.

He does not get to eat today.
__________________________

Your maid makes your bed and washes your clothes.

He wears the same things for months, but makes sure his weapons are clean.
__________________________

You go to the mall and get your hair redone.

He doesn't have time to brush his teeth today.
__________________________

You are angry because your class ran 5 minutes over.

He is told he will be held an extra 2 months.
__________________________


You call your girlfriend and set a date for that night.

He waits for the mail to see if there is a letter from home.
__________________________

You hug and kiss your girlfriend, like you do everyday.

He holds his letter close and smells his love's perfume.
__________________________

You roll your eyes as a baby cries.

He gets a letter with pictures of his new child, and wonders if they'll ever
meet.
__________________________

You criticize your government, and say that war never solves anything.

He sees the innocent tortured and killed by their own government and
remembers why he is fighting.
__________________________

You hear the jokes about the war, and make fun of the men like him.

He hears the gun fire and bombs.
__________________________

You see only what the media wants you to see.

He sees the bodies lying around him.
__________________________

You are asked to go to the store by your parents. You don't.

He does what he is told.
__________________________


You stay at home and watch TV.

He takes whatever time he is given to call and write home, sleep, and eat.
__________________________

You crawl into your bed, with down pillows, and try to get comfortable.

He crawls under a tank for shade and a 5 minute nap, only to be woken by gun
fire.
__________________________

You sit there and judge him, saying the world is a worse place because of
men like him.

If only there were more men and women like him.

Roy

all getting a bit boring now i'm afraid, time for you lot to be quiet about the army.... i'm not in it, neither are alot on here, so stop ramming it down out throats

boring ZZZZzzzz ZZZzzzzz ZZZZzzzzz

[Andy9o8 2]

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You put on your anti war/don't support the troops shirt, and go meet up with
your friends.

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You sit there and judge him, saying the world is a worse place because of men like him.

Some of the comparisons might be "poignant", but not these two. These two are just the usual slander spoken about those that don't support the war: that they're "unpatriotic". I know many people against the war, but not a one of them who does not wholeheartedly support the troops.
Nobody says it's men like the GI in the Humvee that make the world worse, so cut the slander. What they say is it's men like Karl Rove and Dick Cheney that make it worse.

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You criticize your government, and say that war never solves anything.
He sees the innocent tortured and killed by their own government and remembers why he is fighting.

This is also a slap in the face of every citizen of a democracy who "dares" to criticize his government's decision to go to war; as well as another typical diversion: that if you criticize the Bush inner circle's decision to go to war because they wanted to "take care of unfinished business" with Saddam, that somehow we're insensitive to Saddam's torment of his people. Utter nonsense.

[D22369 0]

all getting a bit boring now i'm afraid, time for you lot to be quiet about the army.... i'm not in it, neither are alot on here, so stop ramming it down out throats ***

Dont like it?... I will post whatever HH and the mods allow me to. feel free to voice your opinion anytime on any subject you wish, you make my point exactly..... without people who will stand up and fight, you wouldnt be able to say your piece in safety...
its boring you?....it was just a little reminder that our brothers and sisters are still over there......

Roy

They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

[D22369 0]

What they say is it's men like Karl Rove and Dick Cheney that make it worse.
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I would take that a step farther.... its politicians who make this world worse, doesnt matter what side of the aisle they are on...


This is also a slap in the face of every citizen of a democracy who "dares" to criticize his government's decision to go to war ***

hmmm, well..... if ya put it that way.... I have to agree.

Roy

They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

[txhoss 0]

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all getting a bit boring now i'm afraid, time for you lot to be quiet about the army.... i'm not in it, neither are alot on here, so stop ramming it down out throats

boring ZZZZzzzz ZZZzzzzz ZZZZzzzzz

Then I would say do not read the thread. Just a thought.

Have Rig will travel ...

[warpedskydiver 0]

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Your one warning.

what did he say that was so bad, the word "perhaps"?

[warpedskydiver 0]

all getting a bit boring now i'm afraid, time for you lot to be quiet about the army.... i'm not in it, neither are alot on here, so stop ramming it down out throats

boring ZZZZzzzz ZZZzzzzz ZZZZzzzzz

[goofyjumper 0]

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You put on your anti war/ don't support the troops shirt, and go meet up with
your friends.

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He still fights for your right to wear that shirt.

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Where the hell have you ever seen a liberal say they do not support the troops?

They do not support the war, but to say they do not support the troops is a absolute lie.

And you know who is to blame? The conservatives that assume that liberals do not support the troops.

You ask any liberal and they would never say that.

Why would anybody who knows that it is not the troops fault where they go, blame them.


That was a lie by conservatives to make liberals look like they hate the military.

Common sense!

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[mnealtx 0]

Quoted from a post on DU - where it definitely IS the prevailing opinion from the threads I've read:

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My greatest fear, where the anti-war movement is concerned, is that hate for Bush has slopped over and become hate for soldiers in general. Too many people are eager, indeed all too willing, to believe that we're all a bunch of monsters running around out there, ventilating skulls and sucking the brains out through the hole.

Mike
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Poignant.

Not my take. I would consider it more like irrelevant.

I am strongly against our presence in Iraq, but do not pass judgement on the soldiers. They are following orders and doing their job. I do not think having more or less people like our soldiers would directly correlate to the world being a better or worse place.

I do judge the leaders who sent them there, they are incompetent. Yeah, just my opinion, along with about 60% of the US adult population (and rising all the time).

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

[StreetScooby 5]

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I do judge the leaders who sent them there, they are incompetent.

I think the Rumsfeld doctrine is an abject failure, and Dick Cheney is the prince of darkness. Bush should have listened to Colin Powell. We'd be in a different place today.

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[StreetScooby 5]

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My greatest fear, where the anti-war movement is concerned, is that hate for Bush has slopped over and become hate for soldiers in general. Too many people are eager, indeed all too willing, to believe that we're all a bunch of monsters running around out there, ventilating skulls and sucking the brains out through the hole.

They can do that?

We are all engines of karma

[JohnRich 4]

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all getting a bit boring now i'm afraid, time for you lot to be quiet about the army.... i'm not in it, neither are alot on here, so stop ramming it down out throats

If it's boring you, why did you re-quote the entire original long post, putting it back in front of everyone's eyes?

If it bothers you so much, exercise your freedom of choice, and pass over this thread. That freedom of choice was brought to you by brave soldiers.

[shropshire 0]

That's a great quote....
It doesn't feel like the dislike for Bush/Blair etc.. will spill over, so long as the current stories proove to be baseless.... or if true that they can police them selves and coverups dont happen.

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