Is it hot enough for you?

[skydyvr 0]

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Consider this: The mere fact that someone from the future hasn't come back in time to correct this may indicate the human race doesn't survive.

The ones who came back to punish us with a second Bush term just didn't make themselves known.

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[GTAVercetti 0]

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Consider this: The mere fact that someone from the future hasn't come back in time to correct this may indicate the human race doesn't survive.

The ones who came back to punish us with a second Bush term just didn't make themselves known.

That was my interpretation as well.

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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We can have an Earth covered with ice, but we can't have one covered with water?

If Earth is covered by ice, isn't it by definition covered with water?

[billvon 3,031]

>I'll believe your fairy tale, if you'll believe mine.

That's the issue. I'm more of a science guy instead of a fairytale guy. Perhaps that's why we disagree on this.

>Noone knows what happened when . . .

See above.

>BTW, how old is the universe?

About 14 billion years.

> We can have an Earth covered with ice, but we can't have one covered with water.

Are you aware that currently there are entire continents covered with ice? Also, I am sure you have seen snow.

[billvon 3,031]

> Ecology, environment, and evolution should be three subjects . . .

Organisms adapt to their environments; that's what evolution is. Ecology is the interplay of everything in the environment.

> but they've been mixed into the same pot by liberals, so, game on!

Uh, you brought them together here.

[billvon 3,031]

>Although the theory goes that the earth was completely covered in ice
>at sometime, it does not go as far to say every ice age leads to a
>snowball earth.

Agreed. It only happened twice. Which is fortunate because once they get going, they're pretty stable - it takes the mother of all greenhouse effects to undo it.

>As for Al Gore here are 25 Inconvenient Truths for him.

As mentioned in another thread, the CEI is a lobbying group funded by Exxon to refute global warming science.

[kallend 2,070]

In the nicest possible way, I think you are playing out of your league here.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[billvon 3,031]

>If Earth is covered by ice, isn't it by definition covered with water?

Come to think of it, there's always water vapor in the air. So we're covered with water right now, in a way!

[lawrocket 3]

An estimated 10,000 new species of insect(yes, just insect) are identified each year. This means that we've identified 100,000 new insect species since 1996.

Therefore, a sheer look at the numbers proves that we are more ecologically diverse now than at any point. Assuming only 5,000 new species per year have been identified since 1906 (on average), that means 100,000 that's a half million new species in 100 years that we have no proof existed 100 years ago.

Sure, perhaps the fact that we have more people looking for insects and in different places where people have never measured before might have somethign to do with it.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Nolimitz 0]

We need a big time attitude adjustment, people. Agree, disagree, but Mother Nature always wins. Sooner or later, she will be shaking all of us fleas off her back. Speaking of Mother Earth, who is naturally volatile, you would think that we would have a little more respect. Instead, what do we do??? We turn our planet, our HOME, into a f***ing trash can. It's sickening. Do we really NEED 12 different sized Ziploc bags, or the variety of plastic containers to store food, the SUV's- as long as we keep consuming, everything will be just FINE.
Do you know how much plastic is recycled per year?? About 5 percent- Why? Because not all plastic CAN be recycled. Of course, plastic production adds to emmissions, as well as petroleum use.
When are we going to wise up and see that OIL is NOT the only way. Hell, it'll all be gone sooner or later, anyway. Why don't we take those 5 million people who are SURELY going to lose their jobs in the factories and put them to the task of INVENTING. Hell, we're smart- we can do that.
In closing, in spending some time in the Dominican Republic, one of the poorest countries I've ever seen, I noticed that they FOUND A WAY. That's right, they were smart enough to fuel their cars with PROPANE.
It's time to face facts-we're doing a shitty job of protecting our planet, and thus, future generations.

[ltdiver 3]

Not to discount the greenhouse effect by our nauseous overuse of fossil fuels, etc, but perhaps we're not the only thing in the universe that's contributing highly to our global warming.

Interesting that Al Gore leaves this 'little fact' out of his 'documentary'.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3869753.stm

"In particular, it has been noted that between about 1645 and 1715, few sunspots were seen on the Sun's surface.

This period is called the Maunder Minimum after the English astronomer who studied it.

It coincided with a spell of prolonged cold weather often referred to as the "Little Ice Age". Solar scientists strongly suspect there is a link between the two events - but the exact mechanism remains elusive.

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But the most striking feature, he says, is that looking at the past 1,150 years the Sun has never been as active as it has been during the past 60 years.

Over the past few hundred years, there has been a steady increase in the numbers of sunspots, a trend that has accelerated in the past century, just at the time when the Earth has been getting warmer."***

ltdiver

Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

[rushmc 23]

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Not to discount the greenhouse effect by our nauseous overuse of fossil fuels, etc, but perhaps we're not the only thing in the universe that's contributing highly to our global warming.

Interesting that Al Gore leaves this 'little fact' out of his 'documentary'.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3869753.stm

"In particular, it has been noted that between about 1645 and 1715, few sunspots were seen on the Sun's surface.

This period is called the Maunder Minimum after the English astronomer who studied it.

It coincided with a spell of prolonged cold weather often referred to as the "Little Ice Age". Solar scientists strongly suspect there is a link between the two events - but the exact mechanism remains elusive.

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But the most striking feature, he says, is that looking at the past 1,150 years the Sun has never been as active as it has been during the past 60 years.

Over the past few hundred years, there has been a steady increase in the numbers of sunspots, a trend that has accelerated in the past century, just at the time when the Earth has been getting warmer."***

ltdiver

....and all scientist agree that global CO2 increases are causing the increased sun actiivity......

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln