"You just don't get it!"

[SpeedRacer 1]

don't we see a lot of this here???

Saying, or professing the attitude of "you just don't get it" in the political or religious threads conveniently deletes the possibility that the other guy may in fact get what you're saying, but simply disagrees with your conclusions.

It is the arrogance of saying "well, if you really understood the FACTS of COURSE you would come to the same conclusion as me! Since you don't agree with me, you must be a retard or something!"

"After all, everything I believe is always correct & rational!"

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[miked10270 0]

I always looked at "You don't get it!" as meaning "I can't explain it!"

In effect, it's said by someone who can't substantiate their argument and resorts to "playing the man - not the ball".

On the other hand, we also see a lot of "I can't fault your argument, but I can't agree with it" here as well. - the sign that people are learning from these threads (isn't that what we're here to do... Learn & have a laugh?) or is that a Pinko-Liberal-Left view of these forums. Perhaps we're really here to better understand the word of God as expressed by his Prophets, Dubbie & Foxie!

Mike.

Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.

Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.

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don't we see a lot of this here???

Saying, or professing the attitude of "you just don't get it" in the political or religious threads conveniently deletes the possibility that the other guy may in fact get what you're saying, but simply disagrees with your conclusions.

It is the arrogance of saying "well, if you really understood the FACTS of COURSE you would come to the same conclusion as me! Since you don't agree with me, you must be a retard or something!"

"After all, everything I believe is always correct & rational!"

What? I don't get it????


I agree with the next poster in that it is just a way of asking if the person understands what you are trying to say. Just as it could be used in a caustic way as you say, the listener could shut off and intentionally reject everything without giving any credence or consideration to the speaker, rendering the speaker to ask....... do you get it?

If you fail to address an issue, question, etc... you have acquiesced, meaning you essentially agree with the point. If that speaker then asks if you get it, you might take it as an insult to divert the issue from that of one you can't successfully address - to - what a bully and general ahole the guy is being for demanding you think his way. If people are asking if you get it, ask them to explain each element step by step so there is positive communication.

I think we are all a bit bull-headed and we have to let down our guard and our ego to learn.

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(isn't that what we're here to do... Learn & have a laugh?)

I've learned alot in this forum while having a good time, also.

We are all engines of karma

[downwardspiral 0]

Dood don't try to confuse me with the facts.

www.FourWheelerHB.com

[rasmack 0]

Most real (as opposed to imagined) disagreements are able to be resolved to a point where a select few factors can be identified as the cause of the disagreement. This could be a goddamned liberal leftie who perceives it to be more important than individual freedom vs. a redneck gun-lovin' neo-con who will not let concern for others impede the least bit on her personal freedom. These two may have a number of hefty arguments all revolving about the same point. If they are able to find the point on which they disagree they will be able to respectfully disagree. If they are not, they will keep proselytizing their own personal beliefs until they both vomit of exhaustion and throw the you-just-don't-get-it card.

Many posts on this board show that people don't really take the time to analyze the positions of other people to the required degree. On the rare occasion that one actually does, you can be damn sure that the debate "opponent" won't hear of it.

HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227
“I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.”
- Not quite Oscar Wilde...

[Nightingale 0]

It seems like the biggest cause for debate here is where personal freedom ends and security or government enforced morality begins. People who draw the line in different places are going to disagree. It's easy to respectfully disagree with someone who has the ability to articulate why they've made the decision they have made. It's very difficult to respectfully disagree with someone who is unable to explain their reasoning, is just parroting the party line, or just plain doesn't try to offer any kind of explanation at all. In a situation like that, you're left with a few options: attack the person because they haven't given you an issue to go after, ignore the fact that they haven't offered an explanation and offer yours anyway, or roll your eyes and figure it's best to leave them alone until they decide they want a meaningful conversation or have acquired an ability to think for themselves.

[rasmack 0]

I mostly just walk away. I don't lose sleep over letting someone "win" an argument in SC.

HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227
“I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.”
- Not quite Oscar Wilde...

[StreetScooby 5]

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It seems like the biggest cause for debate here is where personal freedom ends and security or government enforced morality begins. People who draw the line in different places are going to disagree. It's easy to respectfully disagree with someone who has the ability to articulate why they've made the decision they have made. It's very difficult to respectfully disagree with someone who is unable to explain their reasoning, is just parroting the party line, or just plain doesn't try to offer any kind of explanation at all. In a situation like that, you're left with a few options: attack the person because they haven't given you an issue to go after, ignore the fact that they haven't offered an explanation and offer yours anyway, or roll your eyes and figure it's best to leave them alone until they decide they want a meaningful conversation or have acquired an ability to think for themselves.

Well put.

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[Rebecca 0]

But a strong and well-thought-out opinion accompanied by an open mind and a desire to really learn and share leads to productive discussion.

You have to be willing to face and examine your own flaws in reasoning or even character though, which is quite a rub.

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

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...leads to productive discussion.

And that happens quite often here, in my experience.

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...leads to productive discussion.

And that happens quite often here, in my experience.

Yes, yes it does. It happens every time I close my eyes and imagine. And that is quite often.


Sarcasm, on the other hand, is just criminally underused.

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

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Sarcasm, on the other hand, is just criminally underused.

We are all engines of karma

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It seems like the biggest cause for debate here is where personal freedom ends and security or government enforced morality begins. People who draw the line in different places are going to disagree. It's easy to respectfully disagree with someone who has the ability to articulate why they've made the decision they have made. It's very difficult to respectfully disagree with someone who is unable to explain their reasoning, is just parroting the party line, or just plain doesn't try to offer any kind of explanation at all. In a situation like that, you're left with a few options: attack the person because they haven't given you an issue to go after, ignore the fact that they haven't offered an explanation and offer yours anyway, or roll your eyes and figure it's best to leave them alone until they decide they want a meaningful conversation or have acquired an ability to think for themselves.

Well put.

I don't think it's hard to have an open mind if you have a strong opinion. I think it depends on what your strong opinion is based on. If it's based on a thorough exploration of the subject, it's easy to have an open mind and listen to others' opinions, because you've done that already before forming your own, and you've realized that you can strengthen your own ideals by being aware of the objections and criticism put forward by the other side. If your opinion is based on what your parents/friends/church/TV has told you, and you haven't bothered to investigate things for yourself and question what you've been told, opening your mind to others can be a very threatening thing because you're not prepared with any kind of information and completely unable to respond to their questions and concerns.

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[Nightingale 0]

Well, there's a difference between keeping an open mind and believing everything you hear. It's one of the reasons that teaching critical thinking in school is so crucial.

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It seems like the biggest cause for debate here is where personal freedom ends and security or government enforced morality begins. People who draw the line in different places are going to disagree. It's easy to respectfully disagree with someone who has the ability to articulate why they've made the decision they have made. It's very difficult to respectfully disagree with someone who is unable to explain their reasoning, is just parroting the party line, or just plain doesn't try to offer any kind of explanation at all. In a situation like that, you're left with a few options: attack the person because they haven't given you an issue to go after, ignore the fact that they haven't offered an explanation and offer yours anyway, or roll your eyes and figure it's best to leave them alone until they decide they want a meaningful conversation or have acquired an ability to think for themselves.

Well put.

I don't think it's hard to have an open mind if you have a strong opinion. I think it depends on what your strong opinion is based on. If it's based on a thorough exploration of the subject, it's easy to have an open mind and listen to others' opinions, because you've done that already before forming your own, and you've realized that you can strengthen your own ideals by being aware of the objections and criticism put forward by the other side. If your opinion is based on what your parents/friends/church/TV has told you, and you haven't bothered to investigate things for yourself and question what you've been told, opening your mind to others can be a very threatening thing because you're not prepared with any kind of information and completely unable to respond to their questions and concerns.

I think you said what I said.


I think we might get it!

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

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Hehe. Yup. You just managed to use fewer words than me.

[Gravitymaster 0]

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Hehe. Yup. You just managed to use fewer words than me.

That's because she doesn't get paid by the word.

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I always looked at "You don't get it!" as meaning "I can't explain it!"

True if you are dealing with a rational person.

When you dealing with someone who doesn’t have the same basic principles as you then unfortunately many times they don’t get it or get you and you don’t get them. I have had more then my share of arguments on here and the biggest problem has been people who say they value all humane life the same but it is obvious they do not. Or people who can’t understand a culture and just because it is not what they are used to they think it is wrong.

So yes they do not get it and no matter how much you explain they will never get it.
People who view things that are different as wrong will never get anything and it is a waist of energy to try to make them understand.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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Well, there's a difference between keeping an open mind and believing everything you hear.

Did I somehow convey that I do not understand that difference?

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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Well, there's a difference between keeping an open mind and believing everything you hear.

Did I somehow convey that I do not understand that difference?

I think she was agreeing with you and pointing out that one fundamental cause of disagreement is an inability to think critically - thus its importance in school curricula.

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

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Well, there's a difference between keeping an open mind and believing everything you hear.

Did I somehow convey that I do not understand that difference?

I was agreeing with you. There is a difference between keeping an open mind and letting your brain ooze out your ears.

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Well, there's a difference between keeping an open mind and believing everything you hear.

Did I somehow convey that I do not understand that difference?

I was agreeing with you. There is a difference between keeping an open mind and letting your brain ooze out your ears.

Got it.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to scrounge up a couple Q-Tips and clean out my ears.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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Well, there's a difference between keeping an open mind and believing everything you hear. It's one of the reasons that teaching critical thinking in school is so crucial.

THAT is soooooo last century......now we have the 3 R's again....so no one is left behind....hence the dumbing down of America.... BUT at least they can get all they are required to think from Fox NEws.