Stem Cells: The Ultimate Fundamentalist Hypocrisy

[TheAnvil 0]

GWB was the better choice in both '00 and '08.

I disagree with this veto, off the cuff. Haven't read the bill though, to be honest.

Vinny the Anvil
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[Gravitymaster 0]

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not saying how I feel about this, but let's keep in mind that Bush vetoed FEDERAL FUNDING of stem cell research; he did not ban it from being done.

Here's some information for everyone before this gets too heated.

http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/basics/basics1.asp

[jakee 1,489]

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GWB was the better choice in both '00 and '08.

Woah, did he push that 3rd term amendment through? Have I been asleep for three years?!? Somebody tell me what the hell's going on!

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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GWB was the better choice in both '00 and '08.

Woah, did he push that 3rd term amendment through? Have I been asleep for three years?!? Somebody tell me what the hell's going on!

Well, since the Dems claim he was selected instead of elected in 2000, he can still be elected for a second term.

[DrewEckhardt 0]

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'In the case of the stem cell bill, Bush left no room for compromise. Using federal money for research on new stem cell lines - even those derived from embryos created for fertility treatments and otherwise slated for disposal, as specified in the measure - would mean sanctioning the destruction of human life, the president says.'

How does he explain killing 50,000+ Iraqi civillians?

As far as Bush is concerned Brown People are not "human life." That classification is reserved for White People of Western European ancestry.

[TheAnvil 0]

ha! What a dufus I am. I should have typed '04.

Good catch.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

[StreetScooby 5]

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...Bush vetoed FEDERAL FUNDING of stem cell research; he did not ban it from being done.

SpeedRacer is right. Bush has not banned stem cell research in America. He's given it to the states. That's why California has a _HUGE_ investment in stem cell research, and several other states, also.

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[br0k3n 0]

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Did you know that most couples choose to DISCARD their embryos when throug with IVF? The rest are preserved. Generally never to be used again. But yes, we must PROTECT these never-to-be used embryos so they can enjoy a fulfilling life in a nitrogen bath.

Well they will only enjoy a fulfilling life in a nitrogen bath for a short period of time until they are destroyed. Its estimated that over 4000 embryos that are left over from IVF treatments are destroyed every year in the US..... whilst there remain an estimated 400,000 embryos that sit frozen in IVF clinics across the country.

So GWB, along with his flawed Christian morals is hampering the progression of humanity... sad, sad, fucking sad.....

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[billvon 2,990]

>any day now that he will take the conspiracy theorist side in the
>debate over whether the moon landings were faked or not.

Look, no one's saying they were faked for sure. All they're saying is that credible, knowledgeable scientists disagree as to whether we really landed on the moon. Why not teach both sides of the story and let our children decide? Are the "lunies" afraid of the truth? It's like they have their own "we landed on the moon" religion. After all, have YOU ever been to the moon?

[StreetScooby 5]

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Look, no one's saying they were faked for sure. All they're saying is that credible, knowledgeable scientists disagree as to whether we really landed on the moon. Why not teach both sides of the story and let our children decide? Are the "lunies" afraid of the truth? It's like they have their own "we landed on the moon" religion. After all, have YOU ever been to the moon?

You're right, bill.

We are all engines of karma

[jakee 1,489]

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After all, have YOU ever been to the moon?

All I'm saying is, I've pointed a telescope at the moon and I couldn't see one single spaceship. So you tell me, where did all the landers and moon buggies go?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[going4alob 0]

Just out of interest does anyone know if the bill prevents funding of studies to convert adult stem cells back to an embryonic phenotype? This is not possible at the moment but could be in a few years time.

[GTAVercetti 0]

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not saying how I feel about this, but let's keep in mind that Bush vetoed FEDERAL FUNDING of stem cell research; he did not ban it from being done.

This is absolutely true. But since NIH is responsible for much funding for research that ALL can use, I am not sure how I feel about ONLY proprietary work on something like this.

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[goofyjumper 0]

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GWB was the better choice in both '00 and '08.

I just threw up in my motuh a little bit.......

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[pirana 0]

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Look, no one's saying they were faked for sure. All they're saying is that credible, knowledgeable scientists disagree as to whether we really landed on the moon. Why not teach both sides of the story and let our children decide? Are the "lunies" afraid of the truth? It's like they have their own "we landed on the moon" religion. After all, have YOU ever been to the moon?

You're right, bill.

I'm pretty sure he's funning us. Though I gotta say, nothing surprises me anymore.

On stem cell research, blocking funding is effectively the same as driving with your foot on the brakes at half pressure. We will get there and will reap the benefits, but it is going to take much longer. We've got a goof of an executive who is completely out of touch.

Despite the fact that a majority of Americans wanted this to go thru, he vetoes it.

Despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of Americans favor abortion, he supports the anti-abortion position.

He no longer represnts the citizens as a whole (not sure he ever did - fooling them into voting for you isn't the same as representing them), just a minority (what is it now, about 30%?) that happen to agree with his personal views. And that is just a matter of chance and coincidence. I do believe this moron would follow his personal agenda even if nobody agreed with him and his approval ratings were zero.

That being said, this too will pass. We are only a couple years away from what will basically amount to the next president and congress getting to work and correcting the errors of this administration.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

[rehmwa 2]

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not saying how I feel about this, but let's keep in mind that Bush vetoed FEDERAL FUNDING of stem cell research; he did not ban it from being done.

This point is purposely hidden. I'm happy to see just about any veto on spending. Maybe if the joker does it once, he'll veto more spending bills - FINALLY

Damn republicans are spenidng like democrats - I can't tell them apart in the last 20 years

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[GTAVercetti 0]

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not saying how I feel about this, but let's keep in mind that Bush vetoed FEDERAL FUNDING of stem cell research; he did not ban it from being done.

This point is purposely hidden. I'm happy to see just about any veto on spending. Maybe if the joker does it once, he'll veto more spending bills - FINALLY

Damn republicans are spenidng like democrats - I can't tell them apart in the last 20 years

Sorry to say, but the money that WOULD have gone to stem cell research will just go somewhere else; it is not lessening federal funding in total.

As far as I know, this was not a budgeting bill but instead removes the ability to allow already allocated monies to be used for stem cell research funding.

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

[Amazon 7]

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Sorry to say, but the money that WOULD have gone to stem cell research will just go somewhere else; it is not lessening federal funding in total.

We are at war.. we need this for more and better equipment and contracts for our major contractwhores

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Sorry to say, but the money that WOULD have gone to stem cell research will just go somewhere else; it is not lessening federal funding in total.

We are at war.. we need this for more and better equipment and contracts for our major contractwhores

Well. This was unneeded.

That situtation has nothing to do with this one.

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

[idrankwhat 0]

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Well, since the Dems claim he was selected instead of elected in 2000, he can still be elected for a second term.

Don't give Rove any ideas! We can't afford it! Actually, that sounds more like Gonzalesspeak.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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Sorry to say, but the money that WOULD have gone to stem cell research will just go somewhere else; it is not lessening federal funding in total.

As far as I know, this was not a budgeting bill but instead removes the ability to allow already allocated monies to be used for stem cell research funding

Well said. I truly doubt that his reasoning with regards to vetoing this bill has anything to do wth money....other than maybe money flowing to him.

[pirana 0]

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not saying how I feel about this, but let's keep in mind that Bush vetoed FEDERAL FUNDING of stem cell research; he did not ban it from being done.

This point is purposely hidden. I'm happy to see just about any veto on spending. Maybe if the joker does it once, he'll veto more spending bills - FINALLY

Damn republicans are spenidng like democrats - I can't tell them apart in the last 20 years

Yes, they're all shopaholics; but there is a difference in what they buy.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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After all, have YOU ever been to the moon?

All I'm saying is, I've pointed a telescope at the moon and I couldn't see one single spaceship. So you tell me, where did all the landers and moon buggies go?

How big is your telescope?

You funning us too, or should we engage in a discussion on the resolution limits of various size telescopes.

Related BTW: There are no human activities that can be seen from the Moon with the naked eye. Being able to see China's Great Wall is a total myth.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

[billvon 2,990]

>So you tell me, where did all the landers and moon buggies go?

Exactly. Too bad the "scientists" who claim to know we landed on the moon have never answered that question!

And I've seen so-called moon rocks on display in museums. I find rocks like that in my back yard. How dumb do they think we are?

[Amazon 7]

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Well. This was unneeded.

That situtation has nothing to do with this one.

Suuure you betcha... its about the hypocrisy.. the
"SANCTITY" of life.....they sure dont mind putting iron and steel and lead and depleted uranium on ... I guess not so sanctified life.. and then celebrate those decisions with lots of back slapping and gladhanding and congradulating themselves for it.