akarunway 1 #1 July 30, 2006 So. How do we stop all this stealing the taxpayers money?http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/30/world/middleeast/30reconstruct.html?ei=5065&en=d3a3895d0d6aaf78&ex=1154836800&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=printI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #2 July 30, 2006 Change the people running it. And put the ones playing accounting tricks in jail.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #3 July 30, 2006 Quote So. How do we stop all this stealing the taxpayers money?http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/30/world/middleeast/30reconstruct.html?ei=5065&en=d3a3895d0d6aaf78&ex=1154836800&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print Elect a new Congress in November, and have it impeach Bush. Otherwise it will have to wait until November 2008 by which time the people's debt will have reached $9 Trillion.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #4 July 30, 2006 Quote Quote So. How do we stop all this stealing the taxpayers money?http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/30/world/middleeast/30reconstruct.html?ei=5065&en=d3a3895d0d6aaf78&ex=1154836800&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print Elect a new Congress in November, and have it impeach Bush. Otherwise it will have to wait until November 2008 by which time the people's debt will have reached $9 Trillion.As much as I hate to I'm voting straight demo party ticket to get those thieves outta there. Hopefully they'll start some more investigations and impeach his lying assI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 July 30, 2006 Quote As much as I hate to I'm voting straight demo party ticket to get those thieves outta there Let me be the first one to bring up Clinton and the blowjobs before our resident neo-cons can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeryde13 0 #6 July 30, 2006 There won't be any justice if all these theives don't do time and we take back all the stolen money .... the accountants are the least of the problem . I guess it all starts with a real investigation of 911 attacks , the stolen elections and on to the present times ._________________________________________ people see me as a challenge to their balance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #7 July 30, 2006 Quote Let me be the first one to bring up Clinton and the blowjobs before our resident neo-cons can. Fucking your intern & lying about it is hardly on the scale of fucking your country & lying about it! Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #8 July 30, 2006 Quote Fucking your intern & lying about it is hardly on the scale of fucking your country & lying about it! Right, which is why the "neo-cons" probably won't mention it -- just the usual liberal straw man builders. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #9 July 30, 2006 But... It'll be nice to have a Prez who can speak coherigently, won't it? Someone who can understand a situation without his aides resorting to sock puppets? Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #10 July 30, 2006 Quote But... It'll be nice to have a Prez who can speak coherigently, won't it? Yes. I believe Bush has some admirable qualities, but public speaking and presence of mind aren't among them. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #11 July 31, 2006 Not a lot of data in the article, truth be told. Then again, it did come from the NYT. All this article says is that USAID is running a project that had cost over-runs due to increased overhead costs driven up by security concerns. A few questions I would have are: - what organization is conducting the audit that caught this? It says who wrote the audit - did they conduct it as well? - what is the total budget for USAID's efforts in Iraq? The article mentions one project and some #'s associated with it. Is this a significant portion of USAID's budget for Iraq or a small one? - did any other USAID projects experience such over-runs? were they on a similar scale? hidden in the same manner? - what did the project manager for the project have to say? Anyone who dug up this data should be able to name the PM and have attempted to make contact. Among many others. Folks running these projects in gov't are typically career civil service and not political appointees. Be interesting to see what a full audit would turn up over there. Cost over-runs are typical in virtually every program that the government runs. Look at medicare/medicaid or the new prescription drug plan. Not the first cost over-run and it won't be the last. Won't be the last accounting trick the gov't pulls either. Due to the shoddy journalism the article exhibits, I think it a slam on the war in Iraq and GWB. Were it not, the coverage would have been more thorough and a few of the questions I brought up would have been answered therein. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doogie320 0 #12 July 31, 2006 Quote So. How do we stop all this stealing the taxpayers money?http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/30/world/middleeast/30reconstruct.html?ei=5065&en=d3a3895d0d6aaf78&ex=1154836800&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print Go read up on Custer Battles/ Danubia Global/ whatever they are called this week. Seriously read up on it. I know some of their former employees. It is quite eye-opening about contracting in Iraq and corruption and will probably send you into low earth orbit. As a minor aside, I don't believe that a Dem. as POTUS would do better in this area. Our government lacks oversight (well, just about any modern gov't does) and has a certain level of corruption to it. Numerous agencies and companies have exploited this in the GWOT. See also, Gary Lakis and Surgical Shooting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #13 July 31, 2006 Quote Not a lot of data in the article, truth be told. Then again, it did come from the NYT. All this article says is that USAID is running a project that had cost over-runs due to increased overhead costs driven up by security concerns. A few questions I would have are: - what organization is conducting the audit that caught this? It says who wrote the audit - did they conduct it as well? - what is the total budget for USAID's efforts in Iraq? The article mentions one project and some #'s associated with it. Is this a significant portion of USAID's budget for Iraq or a small one? - did any other USAID projects experience such over-runs? were they on a similar scale? hidden in the same manner? - what did the project manager for the project have to say? Anyone who dug up this data should be able to name the PM and have attempted to make contact. Among many others. Folks running these projects in gov't are typically career civil service and not political appointees. Be interesting to see what a full audit would turn up over there. Cost over-runs are typical in virtually every program that the government runs. Look at medicare/medicaid or the new prescription drug plan. Not the first cost over-run and it won't be the last. Won't be the last accounting trick the gov't pulls either. Due to the shoddy journalism the article exhibits, I think it a slam on the war in Iraq and GWB. Were it not, the coverage would have been more thorough and a few of the questions I brought up would have been answered therein. "The report by the inspector general’s office" I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #14 July 31, 2006 Quote Quote So. How do we stop all this stealing the taxpayers money?http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/30/world/middleeast/30reconstruct.html?ei=5065&en=d3a3895d0d6aaf78&ex=1154836800&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print Go read up on Custer Battles/ Danubia Global/ whatever they are called this week. Seriously read up on it. I know some of their former employees. It is quite eye-opening about contracting in Iraq and corruption and will probably send you into low earth orbit. As a minor aside, I don't believe that a Dem. as POTUS would do better in this area. Our government lacks oversight (well, just about any modern gov't does) and has a certain level of corruption to it. Numerous agencies and companies have exploited this in the GWOT. See also, Gary Lakis and Surgical Shooting.Trust me. I worked for Bechtel. I know how the game is playedI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #15 July 31, 2006 "what organization is conducting the audit that caught this? It says who wrote the audit - did they conduct it as well? " What part did you miss? Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
