Royd 0 #26 August 8, 2006 guy is shooting into the room, but the guy is using a high velocity assault rifle the wall is breazy block it rounds would go straight through it and whats behind the wall? The Israeli post. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteNice excuse!! It could be myriad other things too. We can all play! Maybe he was shooting into the ground in the building and it was a dirt floor. Maybe, like was stated, there's a bullet trap in there or piles of dirt and rubble to shoot into. Also notice how clean the man's clothes are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #27 August 8, 2006 Seen it already, but the worst aspect is the editors who use the selective clips from the raw footage to present a lie. It happens all the time, it's the stock in trade of some organizations. There's no such thing as journalistic ethics anymore, they don't even know what it means. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,009 #28 August 8, 2006 > Isn't it also strange that the news never reports the death of a single >hezbollah soldier, as if they are invincible? "Five more Hezbollah fighters were killed in a gunbattle on the way out, while eight Israeli soldiers were injured . . ." (The Australian, Australia) "Earlier, a senior Israeli officer said 'at least three' Hezbollah fighters had been killed during the raid, which was carried out under cover of darkness. ..." (The Australian) "Israeli ministers say at least 300 of an estimated 2,000 Hezbollah fighters have been killed in three weeks of fighting in Lebanon. . .". ... (Houston Chronicle) "JERUSALEM: The Israeli army said on Saturday it had killed at least 70 Hezbollah fighters in battles in southern Lebanon over the past three days. ..." (Washington Post) " Fifteen Hezbollah fighters were killed, an Israeli spokesman said. ..." (Washington Post) "after a bitter battle in which eight Israeli soldiers and - according to Israel - dozens of Hezbollah fighters were killed. ..." (New York Sun) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,034 #29 August 8, 2006 Quote> Isn't it also strange that the news never reports the death of a single >hezbollah soldier, as if they are invincible? "Five more Hezbollah fighters were killed in a gunbattle on the way out, while eight Israeli soldiers were injured . . ." (The Australian, Australia) "Earlier, a senior Israeli officer said 'at least three' Hezbollah fighters had been killed during the raid, which was carried out under cover of darkness. ..." (The Australian) "Israeli ministers say at least 300 of an estimated 2,000 Hezbollah fighters have been killed in three weeks of fighting in Lebanon. . .". ... (Houston Chronicle) "JERUSALEM: The Israeli army said on Saturday it had killed at least 70 Hezbollah fighters in battles in southern Lebanon over the past three days. ..." (Washington Post) " Fifteen Hezbollah fighters were killed, an Israeli spokesman said. ..." (Washington Post) "after a bitter battle in which eight Israeli soldiers and - according to Israel - dozens of Hezbollah fighters were killed. ..." (New York Sun) Can't be true, you're hallucinating... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,034 #30 August 8, 2006 BFD - when has it NOT happened on both sides of a war? "The first victim of war is truth." Rudyard Kipling... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #31 August 8, 2006 Maybe the difference isn't in the bullshit, but in those believing the bullshit? Seems like more people trust the "local journalists", who have been caught making shit up time and time again over the Israelis. You can see that just by the posts here in SC.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,034 #32 August 8, 2006 QuoteMaybe the difference isn't in the bullshit, but in those believing the bullshit? Seems like more people trust the "local journalists", who have been caught making shit up time and time again over the Israelis. You can see that just by the posts here in SC. Each side has a PR machine working overtime and control of its own areas. A healthy dose of skepticism is appropriate for ALL reports out of a war zone.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #33 August 8, 2006 Yes. In my observation, however, people seem to be more likely to question the Israeli reports and to beleive the Pallywood reports.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,034 #34 August 8, 2006 QuoteYes. In my observation, however, people seem to be more likely to question the Israeli reports and to beleive the Pallywood reports. I don't believe either. But then, I'm a crabby old skeptic who remembers how each side has been caught lying in the past.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #35 August 9, 2006 > Isn't it also strange that the news never reports the death of a single hezbollah soldier, as if they are invincible? Many of the so called civilian dead are Hezboo soldiers. Hezboo's have no uniforms other than normal civilian clothing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #36 August 9, 2006 > Isn't it also strange that the news never reports the death of a single >hezbollah soldier, as if they are invincible? Quote"Five more Hezbollah fighters were killed in a gunbattle on the way out, while eight Israeli soldiers were injured . . ." (The Australian, Australia) I'm talking about the Arabic press. We publish the number of our dead straight up. Your example was reported by the Israeli army. Those are only the ones they can count. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,009 #37 August 9, 2006 >I'm talking about the Arabic press. A little searching can avoid silly mistakes. "11 Hezbollah fighters killed in battle" (Khaleej Times, UAE) "26 Hezbollah fighters killed ; Israeli drone crashes in Lebanon ..." (Peninsula On-line, Qatar) ". . . Israeli soldiers have killed 15 Hezbollah fighters in the area over the past few days . . ." (Gulf News, UAE) "Security sources said four Hezbollah fighters were also killed ..." (Gulf Times, Qatar) "Al Jazeera television said four Israelis had been killed . . .Hezbollah said one of its fighters was killed." (Times of Oman, Oman) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #38 August 9, 2006 QuoteI'm a crabby old skeptic. still better than a "scabby old cryptic" ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
