Gawain 0 #26 August 12, 2006 QuoteWhen was the last time governmental shrank over the previous eight years? When was the last time government shrank, ever??!!So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #27 August 12, 2006 QuoteAs someone who is the recipient of that care (currently at Walter Reed), I can tell you that no expense has been spared in the treatment of my injuries, and rehabilitation. I know we have different political views and I'm really glad to hear that they are taking excellent care of you. All the best to a quick and speedy recovery. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #28 August 12, 2006 QuoteAs someone who is the recipient of that care (currently at Walter Reed), I can tell you that no expense has been spared in the treatment of my injuries, and rehabilitation. If I were being billed (from time of injury to now), the tab would easily be in the millions. I see a lot of injured vets every day. I've not heard anyone mention that they felt they were being short-changed in their care or the administration of that care while they've been here. I have seen your posts.. and thank goodness they are taking care of the active duty vets like you who have made sacrifices over there.. But as I discovered.. life can be long.. and then when you are NOT active duty you have to go to the VA. That has been a completely different story. I and others ... MANY others... found civilian care will be FAR better than anything the VA ever did for us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #29 August 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteBush's first VA budget cuts were announced the same day he gave a speech at Walter Reed extolling the virtues of wounded vets and telling them that they would be taken care of. As someone who is the recipient of that care (currently at Walter Reed), I can tell you that no expense has been spared in the treatment of my injuries, and rehabilitation. If I were being billed (from time of injury to now), the tab would easily be in the millions. I see a lot of injured vets every day. I've not heard anyone mention that they felt they were being short-changed in their care or the administration of that care while they've been here. To Amazon: Your link does not show any outline to the budgets of either the VA or DOD. Those are the departments that oversee the care of active duty servicemen and vets. Your "example" is a mere $9M within the Dept of Health and Human Services (whose budget is bigger than DOD btw). Your statement and mine are not contradictory.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azdiver 0 #30 August 12, 2006 my dad hasnt been in the military scince i was born every time hes had to go to the va they have treated him and hes been happy with the level of care he got, most recently for two types of cancer thyroid and throat and they didnt cut corners on his treatment, use the latest methods and newest tech their islight travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patrickweldon 0 #31 August 12, 2006 You cant argue facts with any of these left-winged whacko types who hate America and blaim George Bush for their own personal failures. Despite a biased lying media (Dan Rather, Jason Blair, NY Times, and even photo fraud), the left is clearly wrong on every aspect, and fools like the ACLU, john kerry, and al gore, only hurt our great country. The biggest problem with these looney left losers is that they are all utter failures, and they need someone to blaim. I say this, of course, knowing some unemployed turd will attack me personally for having views opposed to theirs. I await with a grin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #32 August 12, 2006 It took me about 20 yrs to figure out how true this statement is: GOVERNMENT BREEDS THE NEED FOR ITSELF. do any of you know what the 'hegelian dialectic' is? or how about 'Ordo ab Chao'?we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #33 August 12, 2006 QuoteYou cant argue facts with any of these left-winged whacko types who hate America and blaim George Bush for their own personal failures. Despite a biased lying media (Dan Rather, Jason Blair, NY Times, and even photo fraud), the left is clearly wrong on every aspect, and fools like the ACLU, john kerry, and al gore, only hurt our great country. The biggest problem with these looney left losers is that they are all utter failures, and they need someone to blaim. I say this, of course, knowing some unemployed turd will attack me personally for having views opposed to theirs. I await with a grin. Well, there's a post that is loaded with factual information, NOT.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #34 August 12, 2006 Points of clarification: Is this a cut to Core program funding or termination of an earmark? Both of those are also complete terminations of programs. Have they been moved -- in whole or parts -- to another budget line? If previously earmarks, were they incorporated into the Core program? (Also under the HHS budget, "Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Congressional Earmarks" are terminated.) Are these being zero'd out of the President's budget request because OMB is willing to bet that Congress will restore them? Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #35 August 13, 2006 QuoteQuoteBush's first VA budget cuts were announced the same day he gave a speech at Walter Reed extolling the virtues of wounded vets and telling them that they would be taken care of. As someone who is the recipient of that care (currently at Walter Reed), I can tell you that no expense has been spared in the treatment of my injuries, and rehabilitation. If I were being billed (from time of injury to now), the tab would easily be in the millions. I see a lot of injured vets every day. I've not heard anyone mention that they felt they were being short-changed in their care or the administration of that care while they've been here. To Amazon: Your link does not show any outline to the budgets of either the VA or DOD. Those are the departments that oversee the care of active duty servicemen and vets. Your "example" is a mere $9M within the Dept of Health and Human Services (whose budget is bigger than DOD btw). So. What's up w/ this?>http://www.petitiononline.com/Ferguson/petition.html And I can dig up a whole lot more. Been around the military my whole lifeI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #36 August 13, 2006 QuoteSo. What's up w/ this?>http://www.petitiononline.com/Ferguson/petition.html And I can dig up a whole lot more. Been around the military my whole life A petition is not a reflection of fact. Petitions are a reflection of a resentment. Only 4200 signatures on an online petition should tell you something. Being around the military doesn't amount to a hill of beans, sorry. I see reps from the VA everyday, am good friends with a VA appeals judge, and spoke at a VA/USSW conference. There are no doubt some bad stories dealing with the VA, but in the heart of the environment now, I've not witnessed them. Dig up all you want, looking from the outside-in. What I see right in front of me trumps a petition or a whine about a $9M earmark.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #37 August 13, 2006 QuoteQuoteSo. What's up w/ this?>http://www.petitiononline.com/Ferguson/petition.html And I can dig up a whole lot more. Been around the military my whole life A petition is not a reflection of fact. Petitions are a reflection of a resentment. Only 4200 signatures on an online petition should tell you something. Being around the military doesn't amount to a hill of beans, sorry. I see reps from the VA everyday, am good friends with a VA appeals judge, and spoke at a VA/USSW conference. There are no doubt some bad stories dealing with the VA, but in the heart of the environment now, I've not witnessed them. Dig up all you want, looking from the outside-in. What I see right in front of me trumps a petition or a whine about a $9M earmark.Hey bro. I appreciate your service to this country. My dad was full bird Col. I see how they did him. My cousin is a Vietnam vet. Took a mortor. I see how they do him. I did a short stint myself. No combat thanks. I'd fight a WW1 or 2 anyday but you can have all this Nam, Iraq shit. We started all the shit to begin w/ trying to take over the world for the rich elite and the corps.. And I'm pretty much on the inside looking in. I ran the halls of the Pentagon as a kid. All empires fail sooner or later. Get back to me in 20 or so yrs. Have a god day. Hope you get to run w/ your buddy Bush one day. BSBD broI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #38 August 15, 2006 Sorry but i have to agree with amazon again except the problem isn't just with the right or left. It's with the congress and the career civil servant mamagement bean counter types that work for the VA. everyone can see a injury like a amputee, and they recieve the excellent treatment that they deserve. The photo ops are just a PR thing for the folks back home more than the vets. TBI's? can't see it does it realy exist or do the vets just get told to suck it up untill they get their bekk wrong again, and again. The marines studying improving their brain buckets after the army already improved theirs is another example not politic's just REMF's. PTSD? Can't see but the divorce rate among returning vets is up for various reasons.Time will tell how many vets with PTSD end up on the streets. Remember Agent orange it took the VA and the dems and republicans 25 yr's to acknowledge thee was a problem from "crop dusting" in VN with agent orange contaminated with 2378 TCCD (dioxin) If/when the VA and congress stop taking care of our injured vets I hope we can put politic's aside and bitch to who ever is in office loud and clear so they will stop the tax cuts and take care of our vets the way they deserve to be treated. regardless of the type of injury. R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites