micro 0 #51 August 21, 2006 QuoteQuote OTOH, Christians believe (again, most of them) that in the sacred act of the marital embrace, God is also truly present at the act of conception Uuuhhh .... so this god guy is a peeping tom? well, some would say a creeping charlie. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricTheRed 0 #52 August 21, 2006 And how many souls does a chimera have? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(genetics)#Tetragametic_chimerismillegible usually Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #53 August 21, 2006 God is sooooooooooooooo good! I agree but I’ll just live it as God it can be Jesus for you and Allah for me at the end it’s the same being who has watched over me and you all our life. Congarats on the baby. He or she has a mom who has the balls to stick up for what she believes in. That is something I admire in you. Good luckI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #54 August 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteah so children conceived out of wedlock now have no souls? lol.. and here i thought only the unbabtized ones were good for flying potions.... come now zen. i've really come to expect more from you of late. I thought it was a reasonable question to ask. And funny. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goofyjumper 0 #55 August 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteHowever if you want to remind people that your heavenly father has such an incredible amount of love for us, I suggest you don’t waste time posting this on a Internet forum, but perhaps head down to your local park, and tell some of the homeless people, then perhaps visit the local hospital and tell all the people that are in there dying from illness and disease. Why not visit the parents of some of troops that have lost their lives in Iraq, tell them about how much love your god has for them… How do you know I don't do any of that stuff? Again, this is a good example of people always saying it's the CHRISTIANS that judge others, not them QuoteWhat makes you so special that your god should choose you, when there are so many people far worse off then you are. Why doesn’t he do some awesome stuff for them??? I like to brag on my God, just like I like to brag on people when THEY have done awesome things for someone else. I am no different than any one of you. Did I say that in my post? Nope. ( I guess people will assume whatever they want to). God does "awesome stuff" for people all the time--they just don't normally recognize it comes from Him, or they focus so much on the bad stuff in their lives that they don't ever look at the positive. Everyone goes through crap in their lives--do you know any of the crap I am going through right now? Nope. How do you know I am not "worse" off than you? Anyway, I know this post would incite a little bashing, but that's okay---anywhere Jesus Christ is proclaimed King of Kings and Lord of Lords, it will happen. Since we like to share what God is doing in our lives, thought I would share.edited to add: Thanks LM! Love ya darlin! If you didn't want to start a religeous debate, then why did you start this thread in SC?----------------- I love and Miss you so much Honey! Orfun #3 ~ Darla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #56 August 22, 2006 Maybe because loving God isn't a religion to Windcatcher but a way of life, maybe because she is so happy she wanted to share it with us and maybe because she knew people would start picking on her for her love of God but decided that she would share just the same. Personally I'm glad she did.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,107 #57 August 22, 2006 QuoteMaybe because loving God isn't a religion to Windcatcher but a way of life, maybe because she is so happy she wanted to share it with us and maybe because she knew people would start picking on her for her love of God but decided that she would share just the same. Personally I'm glad she did. I wonder what God was thinking when he, in his omnipotent loving way, arranged the Christmas tsunami a couple of years ago.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #58 August 22, 2006 QuoteI agree but I’ll just live it as God it can be Jesus for you and Allah for me at the end it’s the same being who has watched over me and you all our life. How will you account for your lawlessness. Anyone guilty of breaking God's moral law will not have eternal life and will be judged and sent to hell. You say that Islam is the religion of justice. How "just" would God be to not punish your transgression of the law? What can Islam do for you in this regard? Do you know with 100% certainty that you will go to heaven when you die? If so, is that reasonable? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #59 August 22, 2006 Which of Darius's transgressions did you have in mind?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #60 August 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteMaybe because loving God isn't a religion to Windcatcher but a way of life, maybe because she is so happy she wanted to share it with us and maybe because she knew people would start picking on her for her love of God but decided that she would share just the same. Personally I'm glad she did. I wonder what God was thinking when he, in his omnipotent loving way, arranged the Christmas tsunami a couple of years ago. People die, its a certainty, its just a matter of when. If you don't belive in an afterlife then that changes things dramaticly. However if you belive in an after life of eternity then our time here on the earth (or above it) is but a blink in time. For you maybe it seems that if God exists he must be a harsh and heartless being, to me those people died and suffered for a very brief time but God has an eternity to make it up to them. For all the bad that happend alot of good also came out of the Tsunami and when we can't see the big picture its hard to see why things might happen. (Obviously this is from the viewpoint of someone who belives in God)When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #61 August 22, 2006 QuoteWhich of Darius's transgressions did you have in mind? Take your pick... 1. Always keep God 1st in your life. 2. Don't create an idol of worship. 3. Don't take God's name in vain. 4. Keep the Sabbath holy. 5. Honor your Mother & Father. 6. Don't murder. 7. Don't commit adultery. 8. Don't steal. 9. Don't lie. 10. Don't covet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #62 August 22, 2006 I really want to identify the post where you stopped attempting to be pajarito and just accepted that you, in fact, Ray Comfort. It might be a side project I work on when I get the time.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #63 August 22, 2006 QuoteI really want to identify the post where you stopped attempting to be pajarito and just accepted that you, in fact, Ray Comfort. It might be a side project I work on when I get the time. Ray Comfort is a very good author. However, he's just repeating what the Bible says and has already been taught by men such as Luther, Wesley, Spurgeon, Whitefield, etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #64 August 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteWhich of Darius's transgressions did you have in mind? Take your pick... 1. Always keep God 1st in your life. 2. Don't create an idol of worship. 3. Don't take God's name in vain. 4. Keep the Sabbath holy. 5. Honor your Mother & Father. 6. Don't murder. 7. Don't commit adultery. 8. Don't steal. 9. Don't lie. 10. Don't covet. How do you know that Darius has broken those laws? (Any more than anyone else has)When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #65 August 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteI agree but I’ll just live it as God it can be Jesus for you and Allah for me at the end it’s the same being who has watched over me and you all our life. How will you account for your lawlessness. Anyone guilty of breaking God's moral law will not have eternal life and will be judged and sent to hell. You say that Islam is the religion of justice. How "just" would God be to not punish your transgression of the law? What can Islam do for you in this regard? Do you know with 100% certainty that you will go to heaven when you die? If so, is that reasonable? 23And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,"[a] and he was called God's friend. 24You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone. James 2:23-25When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #66 August 22, 2006 QuotePeople die, its a certainty, its just a matter of when. If you don't belive in an afterlife then that changes things dramaticly. However if you belive in an after life of eternity then our time here on the earth (or above it) is but a blink in time. For you maybe it seems that if God exists he must be a harsh and heartless being, to me those people died and suffered for a very brief time but God has an eternity to make it up to them. For all the bad that happend alot of good also came out of the Tsunami and when we can't see the big picture its hard to see why things might happen. (Obviously this is from the viewpoint of someone who belives in God) It's amazing, a bit of arm waving and a lot of hot air can put a glossy coat on any kind of atrocity. I could find that quite distasteful if I thought about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #67 August 22, 2006 QuoteQuotePeople die, its a certainty, its just a matter of when. If you don't belive in an afterlife then that changes things dramaticly. However if you belive in an after life of eternity then our time here on the earth (or above it) is but a blink in time. For you maybe it seems that if God exists he must be a harsh and heartless being, to me those people died and suffered for a very brief time but God has an eternity to make it up to them. For all the bad that happend alot of good also came out of the Tsunami and when we can't see the big picture its hard to see why things might happen. (Obviously this is from the viewpoint of someone who belives in God) It's amazing, a bit of arm waving and a lot of hot air can put a glossy coat on any kind of atrocity. I could find that quite distasteful if I thought about it. Just answing a question, you're free to belive whatever you like just as I am. If you don't want to think about it then don't think about it. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goofyjumper 0 #68 August 22, 2006 QuoteMaybe because loving God isn't a religion to Windcatcher but a way of life, maybe because she is so happy she wanted to share it with us and maybe because she knew people would start picking on her for her love of God but decided that she would share just the same. Personally I'm glad she did. Hence the question why in SC? She should have started it in the bonfire! Deep down maybe she wanted to debate! Hey its fun ----------------- I love and Miss you so much Honey! Orfun #3 ~ Darla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #69 August 22, 2006 Maybe she thought she'd save the moderators the troublef moving the thread.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #70 August 22, 2006 I didn't exactly think I could start a "GOD is good" post in Bonfire- I am sure it would have been moved immediately. That being said, why can't people let Christians live their lives in peace? Nobody here had to post; anyone here could have just said Congrats and moved on. But nope! It ain't gonna happen-when Jesus, the truth, is proclaimed King of Kings and Lord of Lords, people get antsy. Again, please read the first post. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goofyjumper 0 #71 August 22, 2006 QuoteI didn't exactly think I could start a "GOD is good" post in Bonfire- I am sure it would have been moved immediately. That being said, why can't people let Christians live their lives in peace? Nobody here had to post; anyone here could have just said Congrats and moved on. But nope! It ain't gonna happen-when Jesus, the truth, is proclaimed King of Kings and Lord of Lords, people get antsy. Again, please read the first post. Are you listening to your self? Look, I am happy for you. But putting your stupid preaching crap out there irritates people. Bottom line! Why can't you just say " I am pregnant" People know that God had something to do with it (i guess) I believe in and God and that everything happens for a reason, but saying that we are picking on the Christians is just retarded. You posted something on SC, you knew that this would happen, so don't go and say that poeple wont leave you alone. You put out the bait and poeple bit it, otherwise it would have been in the bonfire.----------------- I love and Miss you so much Honey! Orfun #3 ~ Darla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntacfreefly 0 #72 August 22, 2006 QuoteIt ain't gonna happen-when Jesus, the truth, is proclaimed King of Kings and Lord of Lords, people get antsy. Truth has to be proven fact. Now, for you to have FAITH that it is the truth is fine but don't run around making statements that you, or any person on the planet, can't back up. I agree with Goofyjumper. Just say you're pregnant, say you're happy, but if you want to bring religion into it then you're just 'bringing it on yourself' so quit complaining. Blues, IanTo the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. ~ Lao-Tzu It's all good, they're my brothers ~ Mariann Kramer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #73 August 22, 2006 QuoteHow do you know that Darius has broken those laws? (Any more than anyone else has) He has. So have you. So have I. Comparison with the relative guilt of everyone else does not make his any less to an infinitely holy and just God. That would be like saying to the Judge, "I think you should let me go free because there are lots of other people who have also murdered." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #74 August 22, 2006 That was the pint of (Anymore than anyone else has)When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #75 August 22, 2006 QuoteHow will you account for your lawlessness. Anyone guilty of breaking God's moral law will not have eternal life and will be judged and sent to hell. You say that Islam is the religion of justice. How "just" would God be to not punish your transgression of the law? What can Islam do for you in this regard? Do you know with 100% certainty that you will go to heaven when you die? If so, is that reasonable? 23And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,"[a] and he was called God's friend. 24You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone. James 2:23-25 QuoteThe Greek word ergon, here translated "what he does," is used by James with a different meaning than the same word used by Paul in Eph 2:9, there translated "works." For James, "what he does" refers to the obligations to God and fellow humans that are commanded in Scripture and that proceed from a sincere faith, a pure heart, the grace of God and the desire to please Christ. For Paul, "works" refers to a desire to gain favor and salvation through obeying the law by one's own effort rather than through repentance and faith in Christ. Note that both Paul and James state emphatically that true saving faith will inevitably produce deeds of love. Only by the grace of God can you be justified by faith. Not by anything you have done or can do. You're not good enough which is proven when you look into the mirror of God's moral law. A good test to see if your faith is sincere is to examine your "works." This is why it is said that faith without works is dead. If the Holy Spirit is in you and you are "saved", the "works" of God will be apparent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
