Darius11 12 #1 August 21, 2006 QuoteWho’s Watching? By ERIC PETERS Big Brother will be watching you for sure by 2008 -- the year a proposed requirement that Event Data Recorders (EDRs) become mandatory standard equipment in all new cars and trucks will become law unless public outrage puts the kibosh on it somehow. EDRs are "black boxes" -- just like airplanes have. They can record a wide variety of things -- including how fast you drive and whether you "buckle-up for safety." The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) wants EDRs to be installed in every new vehicle beginning with model year 2008 -- on the theory that the information will help crash investigators more accurately determine the hows and whys of accidents. But EDRs could -- and likely will be -- used for other purposes as well. Tied into GPS navigation computers, EDRs could give interested parties -- your local cash-hungry sheriff, for example -- the ability to take automated ticketing to the next level. Since the data recorders can continuously monitor most of the operating parameters of a vehicle as it travels -- and the GPS unit can precisely locate the vehicle in "real time," wherever it happens to be at any given moment -- any and all incidents of "speeding" could be immediately detected and a piece of paying paper issued to the offender faster than he could tap the brake. That's even if he knew he was in the crosshairs, which of course he wouldn't. Probably they'll just erect an electronic debiting system of some sort that ties directly into your checking account -- since the paperwork could not keep up with the massive uptick in fines that would be generated. What Do You Think? If you think this is just a dark-minded paranoiac vision, think again. Rental car companies have already deployed a very similar system of onboard electronic monitoring to identify customers who dare to drive faster than the posted limit -- and automatically tap them with a "surcharge" for their scofflaw ways. While this inventive form of "revenue enhancement" was challenged and subsequently batted down by the courts, the technology continues to be honed -- and quietly put into service. Already, 15-20 percent of all the cars and trucks in service have EDRs; most of these are General Motors vehicles. GM has been installing "black boxes" in its new cars and trucks since about 1996 as part of the Supplemental Restraint (air bag) system. Within a few years, as many as 90 percent of all new motor vehicles will be equipped with EDRs, according to government estimates -- whether the requirement NHTSA is pushing actually becomes law or not. The automakers are just as eager to keep tabs on us as the government -- in part to keep the shyster lawyers who have been so successfully digging into their deep pockets at bay. EDRs would provide irrefutable evidence of high-speed driving, for example -- or make it impossible for a person injured in a crash to deny he wasn't wearing a seat belt. Insurance companies will launch "safety" campaigns urging that "we use available technology" to identify "unsafe" drivers -- and who will be able to argue against that? Everyone knows that speeding is against the law -- and if you aren't breaking the law, what have you got to worry about? It's all for our own good. But if you get edgy thinking about the government -- and our friends in corporate America -- being able to monitor where we go and how we go whenever they feel like checking in on us, take the time to write a "Thanks, but no thanks" letter to NHTSA at http://dms.dot.gov/ I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #2 August 21, 2006 Frightening. Insurance companies do drive alot of social changes in the US. They have too much power, with no real checks and balances in place.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #3 August 21, 2006 Yea just think every time you go over 55mph you get a ticket sent to your home. Off course there will be people who will say that’s the law but it would suck ass either way.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #4 August 21, 2006 Sounds like the same arguments in favor of wiretapping without warrants... I would not mind having them in my car so long as there were prohibitions against government monitoring or activity. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #5 August 21, 2006 We have a GM product with aGPS tracking device. The sales pitch was if the air bags deployed or the car was stolen the police would be able to find it. the joke was the GPS would show the stolen car traveling across the ocean. Lots of techno stuff already out there. Your cell phone, whenever you use you CC and it gets logged in they know the time, and place. By the time we get home and check our CC acct on online the info is already in the system. The beast s already out of the cage. What me worry R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #6 August 21, 2006 Hmmm...not sure if I like the idea of a black box in my car. How about just inserting a microchip....(sarcastic)7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #7 August 21, 2006 Monkey see monkey do... http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1011463,00.html [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3317197.stmWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,446 #8 August 21, 2006 Sounds like a good way to encourage more people to use carpools, their bicycles, and public transportation. Might not be so bad at that rate . Actually, the thought scares the liver out of me, but it really might cut down on some driving for awhile, until we got used to it. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #9 August 21, 2006 http://www.adcritic.com/interactive/view.php?id=5927 Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #10 August 21, 2006 Quotehttp://www.adcritic.com/interactive/view.php?id=5927 indeed! ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites