Zenister 0 #26 August 24, 2006 I'll never understand how/why anyone can 'take pride' in something they had ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL OR INFLUENCE in??? race, sex, country of origin etc... I take pride in the things i do, anything else i had no influence over, is simply a matter of circumstance..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #27 August 24, 2006 Hey, I heard that whites are now fewer in number than other races in Houston. Does that mean we can be proud to be white? ... never mind, I've just been informed that racial/ethnic/religious pride is reserved for non-white/non-euro or non anglo/non-Christians. Sorry for the confusion.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeiber 0 #28 August 24, 2006 QuoteHey, I heard that whites are now fewer in number than other races in Houston. Does that mean we can be proud to be white? You're a racist asshole for even suggesting such a thing! Shhh... you hear that sound? That's the sound of nobody caring! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #29 August 24, 2006 being proud of being Caucasian isn't any different from being proud of being African-american, Irish, Italian, whatever. The poster said he's proud of his Caucasian ancestry. Either his family is from the Caucasus mountain region, or he's just going back further in time to when the ancestors of nearly ALL european people migrated through the caucasus mountains. so he should go get some symbol of the countries in that region then. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenia Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #30 August 24, 2006 QuoteDo you think the same way about "black power"? Yep. Although I have to say that "Viva La Raza" pisses me off even more since it's far more relevant to my everyday existance. The U.S. is -supposed- to be the great melting pot; f'in MELT already will ya?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #31 August 24, 2006 QuoteFirst off, I really don’t want to offend anybody. That can't be done. There are people out there who would be offended even at that statement. QuoteI respect all races and ethnicities. I am also very proud of my Caucasian heritage and all that my forefathers have accomplished. Who cares about history? My heritage would start most easily with my parents. My mom's okay. My dad became a waste of a human life. It'd tough to take pride in my "heritage" when I am not even proud of my fucking "family tree." Looking back on my heritage, pride would end at the first level - long before my heritage sought out to kill all the American Indians. I've therefore got no other choice than to take pride in myself. The problem with that for most people is it takes work to be proud of yourself. It ain't easy to take pride in yourself, for you gotta do something to be proud of, and maintain that. Achieving pride is tough. Sustaining it is tougher. Here's an easy solution - since I don't want go through the effort to take pride in myself, I'll take pride in my race. That way, I don't have to do anything but rest on the laurels others created - even long before I was born. Oh, I'll pick and choose the stuff to be proud of and forget things like genocide, slavery, etc., or I'll find good reasons for genocide and slavery. THAT's pride. This is why I am indifferent toward "race" and "ethnicity." I just don't give a shit. I save my respect, admiration, hatred and other feelings for individuals regardless of any group they can fit themselves into, i.e., race, creed, ethnicity, belief, etc. In the interest of disclosure, I typically have the greatest lack of respect for any person who seeks to identify himself/hersefl on the basis of a group. To those people I'll respect their wishes and lump them in together because of a self-stated desire to be stripped of individual identity. Since I typically can't stand people who prefer to put their individualism aside and instead be part of some "group" I'll be glad to state my lack of respect for you and your groups. Even though I am a honkey, I have more in common with Clarence Thomas than with most crackers. Obviously, considering your screen-name, there is indeed some flippancy to this post. However, I still think it brings about valid points about how to demean your individual self in defining your pride by your role as a member of a group. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,461 #32 August 24, 2006 That was a really great post. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #33 August 24, 2006 Are you proud to be a Skydiver? Or proud that you learned to skydive? It really matters if one can tell the difference, doesn't it. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #34 August 24, 2006 QuoteThe U.S. is -supposed- to be the great melting pot; f'in MELT already will ya? Ok, that resonates. Quade for.... ..... hmmmm...... Quade for Secretary of the Interior '08 !!!! ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #35 August 24, 2006 QuoteAre you proud to be a Skydiver? No. Why would I be "proud" of that? It's something I used to do and something I will do again. It's something that I love and will always be a part of my life's experience. I'm proud that I did it despite being scared shitless. But skydiving for me is intensely personal - I did it for my reasons and nobody else's. Others have their things. Sure, we skydivers have something in common and it's a nice family, but should I take pride in what Bill Booth accomplished? What Roger Nelson did both skydiving-related and extracurricular? I can't even take pride in the fact that the one person I got in to skydiving is going to be competing in Nationals. She did it all herself - I just invited her to go jumping three years four years ago. Skydiver pride? Forget that. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #36 August 24, 2006 QuoteI'll never understand how/why anyone can 'take pride' in something they had ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL OR INFLUENCE in??? race, sex, country of origin etc... I take pride in the things i do, anything else i had no influence over, is simply a matter of circumstance.. What he said. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #37 August 24, 2006 QuoteWhat he said. I'm proud of you Dave! Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #38 August 24, 2006 You could get a tattoo of baby seal wearing a beret with a fleur-de-lis on it, about to be smacked with a club engraved with "Je me souviens". Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #39 August 24, 2006 QuoteIt's a zero sum game. If you hold your race above others, it is by definition a certain amount of a put down to others. There are numerous examples where this is not true. If I tattoed a shamrock on my arm, no one would take offense at the obvious Irish pride. Nor does anyone for Hawaiians, or a host of other ethnicities. Or a pink triangle for gays - gay pride is either seen as positive or perverse, but rarely as an attack on straights. White symbols, otoh, have been coopted by racists so long that it's hard to divorce the symbol from the hatred of non whites. Black symbols are getting slightly tainted as well due to certain separatist groups. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #40 August 24, 2006 QuoteTo those people I'll respect their wishes and lump them in together because of a self-stated desire to be stripped of individual identity. Since I typically can't stand people who prefer to put their individualism aside and instead be part of some "group" I'll be glad to state my lack of respect for you and your groups. I ronically am proud to be half thai and half white because it IS in fact part of my individual identity. Even more so I am proud to be an American. I am proud to be a Marine.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
br0k3n 0 #41 August 25, 2006 QuoteFirst off, I really don’t want to offend anybody. I respect all races and ethnicities. I am also very proud of my Caucasian heritage and all that my forefathers have accomplished. With that being said, is there any Tattoo symbol that symbolizes these feeling of pride without being perceived as racist or derogatory? I want to walk around with my shirt off at the DZ and at the beach without fear of reprisal. I was thinking of something more socially acceptable like the “Iron Cross”, but that has gotten so trendy these days. I’m trying to be original. Any advice would help! How far back do you want to celebrate your heritage? Because interestingly if you go back far enough, your forefathers, forefathers, forefathers were African, and probably black, just the same as mine were, just the same as everyone’s were. Genetics has shown us that all Human races evolved in Africa two million years ago; they entered Europe and branched into Caucasoids one hundred and twenty thousand years ago and branched into Mongoloids fourty thousand years ago in Asia.----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #42 August 25, 2006 QuoteThe U.S. is -supposed- to be the great melting pot; f'in MELT already will ya? This is a moment! I'm gonna use a quote from Quade as my next sig line! That's a great line right there folks! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #43 August 25, 2006 Elmer Fud is white you could get a tatoo of him. Hmmm... on a similar vein how about that Calvin kid, he's white get a tatoo of him, see attached option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #44 August 27, 2006 QuoteYou could get a tattoo of baby seal wearing a beret with a fleur-de-lis on it, about to be smacked with a club engraved with "Je me souviens". Blues, Dave Ok, that's just funny...and should be put on a t-shirt...... ~R+R...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #45 August 27, 2006 QuoteFirst off, I really don’t want to offend anybody. I respect all races and ethnicities. I am also very proud of my Caucasian heritage and all that my forefathers have accomplished. With that being said, is there any Tattoo symbol that symbolizes these feeling of pride without being perceived as racist or derogatory? I want to walk around with my shirt off at the DZ and at the beach without fear of reprisal.*** You may not mean offense, yet due to racial inequity which has been hugely advantagious to those of us fortunate enough to be born white, it could be seen as being in poor taste. Furthermore many closet racists will spout white pride under the guise of simply being "proud of their heritage" while really advocating a more sinister ideology, and you could easily be confused for one of them. Might want to play it safe and get a national flag tattoo or something. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #46 August 27, 2006 QuoteAbandon this entire train of thought. Any sort of "white pride" tattoo, whether you believe it or not, does in fact make you a racist. The fact that you're trying to find one that will somehow fly below the radar, in my mind, only means you want to be a "clever" racist; which is an oxymoron. Does "gay pride" also fit into the order to 'abandon the train of thought'?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Guest #47 August 27, 2006 QuoteQuoteI respect all races and ethnicities. Good. QuoteWith that being said, is there any Tattoo symbol that symbolizes these feeling of pride without being perceived as racist or derogatory? No. It's a zero sum game. If you hold your race above others, it is by definition a certain amount of a put down to others. Quote Any advice would help! Abandon this entire train of thought. Any sort of "white pride" tattoo, whether you believe it or not, does in fact make you a racist. The fact that you're trying to find one that will somehow fly below the radar, in my mind, only means you want to be a "clever" racist; which is an oxymoron. Quade's right. Whites aren't allowed pride, only shame."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #48 August 27, 2006 QuoteQuoteAbandon this entire train of thought. Any sort of "white pride" tattoo, whether you believe it or not, does in fact make you a racist. The fact that you're trying to find one that will somehow fly below the radar, in my mind, only means you want to be a "clever" racist; which is an oxymoron. Does "gay pride" also fit into the order to 'abandon the train of thought'? Yes.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites likearock 2 #49 August 27, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteAbandon this entire train of thought. Any sort of "white pride" tattoo, whether you believe it or not, does in fact make you a racist. The fact that you're trying to find one that will somehow fly below the radar, in my mind, only means you want to be a "clever" racist; which is an oxymoron. Does "gay pride" also fit into the order to 'abandon the train of thought'? Yes. What?? Aren't there gay black people? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #50 August 27, 2006 QuoteYou could get a tattoo of baby seal wearing a beret with a fleur-de-lis on it, about to be smacked with a club engraved with "Je me souviens". Blues, Dave That damm tattoo artist misspelled "souviens" on mine! But he made awesome puppy eyes on the seal tho! Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
sundevil777 102 #46 August 27, 2006 QuoteAbandon this entire train of thought. Any sort of "white pride" tattoo, whether you believe it or not, does in fact make you a racist. The fact that you're trying to find one that will somehow fly below the radar, in my mind, only means you want to be a "clever" racist; which is an oxymoron. Does "gay pride" also fit into the order to 'abandon the train of thought'?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #47 August 27, 2006 QuoteQuoteI respect all races and ethnicities. Good. QuoteWith that being said, is there any Tattoo symbol that symbolizes these feeling of pride without being perceived as racist or derogatory? No. It's a zero sum game. If you hold your race above others, it is by definition a certain amount of a put down to others. Quote Any advice would help! Abandon this entire train of thought. Any sort of "white pride" tattoo, whether you believe it or not, does in fact make you a racist. The fact that you're trying to find one that will somehow fly below the radar, in my mind, only means you want to be a "clever" racist; which is an oxymoron. Quade's right. Whites aren't allowed pride, only shame."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #48 August 27, 2006 QuoteQuoteAbandon this entire train of thought. Any sort of "white pride" tattoo, whether you believe it or not, does in fact make you a racist. The fact that you're trying to find one that will somehow fly below the radar, in my mind, only means you want to be a "clever" racist; which is an oxymoron. Does "gay pride" also fit into the order to 'abandon the train of thought'? Yes.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 2 #49 August 27, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteAbandon this entire train of thought. Any sort of "white pride" tattoo, whether you believe it or not, does in fact make you a racist. The fact that you're trying to find one that will somehow fly below the radar, in my mind, only means you want to be a "clever" racist; which is an oxymoron. Does "gay pride" also fit into the order to 'abandon the train of thought'? Yes. What?? Aren't there gay black people? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #50 August 27, 2006 QuoteYou could get a tattoo of baby seal wearing a beret with a fleur-de-lis on it, about to be smacked with a club engraved with "Je me souviens". Blues, Dave That damm tattoo artist misspelled "souviens" on mine! But he made awesome puppy eyes on the seal tho! Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
