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QuoteIf you mean that I think that the church (whichever one it might be) teaches their doctrine and that is fine, then yes, I think that. That's what a church does. It's their doctrine, after all.
Is that what you're meaning and/or looking for? And since I've stated here (and elsewhere in this thread) that I think it's fine that a church teaches it's doctrine, then it's my opinion that it's fine. You may have a different opinion, and that's fine, as well.
That is certainly something I had brought up previously, but in this specific instance it isn't what I was talking about, if you follow me.
You wrote this;
QuoteI understand your position, but the fallacy lays is insisting that the church teaches anything other than faith. It doesn't.
In reply to (I think) JackC as a way to invalidate his post. Take note, 'A fallacy that the church teaches anything other than faith.'
I have linked to you several news stories concerning the Church distributing scientific reports and instructing its clergy to tell people condoms don't work, Micro himself told you that the church is involved in widespread AIDS education efforts.
Therefore your continuing insistance that the Church only teaches faith is extremely puzzling to me. Maybe thats how you think it should be - but it's just not how it is.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Torturing and killing tens of thousands of "heretics"
According to your criteria then, you're living in a country that should also be put to death. Rember Hiroshima? Nagasaki? An estimated 354,000 died in those attacks, almost all of them civilians. Women, children, grandparents. The acts of dropping fat man and little boy were just as unjust as the acts of the Inquisition.
So firebombing Tokyo (and killing similar numbers) was fine, but using a fission bomb to do it was not? Nevermind Japan's killing of 30M Chinese.
You're just being ridiculous. There's little ressemblance to 1945 and the Inquisition.
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What if it can prove that its doctrine are beneficial to mankind and the "doctrines" or social disciplines that the churches opposes are harmful to mankind? Should those then be legislated?
Can we presume you're also a support of the use of emminent domain? Their defense mirrors the one you just wrote. Mankind benefits. Individuals, otoh, get fucked.
Our system is supposed to protect the individuals, however. China would be more your cup of tea.
Well, I'm sure John Wayne Gacy and Ted Bundy did some good things too.
Torturing and killing tens of thousands of "heretics" would seem to me worthy of the death sentence for the organization. It CERTAINLY doesn't give the Roman church the moral authority to try to dictate legislation that affects me and my family.
According to your criteria then, you're living in a country that should also be put to death. Rember Hiroshima? Nagasaki? An estimated 354,000 died in those attacks, almost all of them civilians. Women, children, grandparents. The acts of dropping fat man and little boy were just as unjust as the acts of the Inquisition. Whereas the US couched it's attack in the name of trying to win a war against an unjust aggressor, the abomination of the Inquisition was couched in an attempt to preserve it's doctrine from error which "could damn souls to hell." Misguided, quite an understatement.
The US is so much more than just the sum of her "sins" committed against Japan. Elsewhere, too. Likewise, the Catholic Church is much, much more than just the sum of her mistakes and transgressions.
A more apt comparison would be Catholic Inquisition vs. Hitler's death camps, don't ya think?
"O brave new world that has such people in it".