pop 0 #1 August 29, 2006 http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/29/iran.nuclear/index.html Bush would never go for it. He aint the sharpest tool in the shed, and I can t see him intellectaully debating anyone, but I sure would love to see this happen.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #2 August 29, 2006 Quotehttp://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/29/iran.nuclear/index.html Bush would never go for it. He aint the sharpest tool in the shed, and I can t see him intellectaully debating anyone, but I sure would love to see this happen. It would be quality entertainment, and reasonably fair. They both look to their gods for direction and have similar skills with regard to the English language. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #3 August 29, 2006 There is nothing for Pres. Bush to gain from a debate with Iran's leader. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #4 August 29, 2006 He debated Al Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004 and did a respectable job both times. In fact in most people's opinion, he won both debates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #5 August 29, 2006 QuoteThere is nothing for Pres. Bush to gain from a debate with Iran's leader. You are right about that QuoteThey both look to their gods for direction and have similar skills with regard to the English language. And you are right about that too :)7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #6 August 29, 2006 QuoteThere is nothing for Pres. Bush to gain from a debate with Iran's leader. So war is better than dialog and diplomacy? What's wrong with such a debate? What would it hurt? Iran is not innocent, but maybe it's time that the American public wake up and realize that Prez Bush is a very dangerous person. The world is a whole lot more dangerous ever since that idiot took office. But it's all good. America is in control of Iraq's oil and Iran's is next right? Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #7 August 29, 2006 QuoteThere is nothing for Pres. Bush to gain from a debate with Iran's leader. Of course there is! He'll be debating a leader of another nation, and, if he does a respectible job at it, he might get some more support. He's got nothing to lose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #8 August 29, 2006 QuoteThere is nothing for Pres. Bush to gain from a debate with Iran's leader. Agreed. Ahmadinejad would go in intending to speak rather than listen. Points will be made, but not answered. I expect that both the debaters and the audience would be simply left feeling frustrated at the fact that no progress was made. A couple of "no-holds-barred" interviews with somebody like Jeremy Paxman would be far more entertaining! We could lay bets on whether the CIA or the Fatwa gets Paxman first. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #9 August 29, 2006 Quote America is in control of Iraq's oil Would everyone stop, please, on this topic? If it was really about Iraq's oil, WE WOULD OWN IRAQ'S OIL. We don't own Iraq's oil, so therefore, it's not about Iraq's oil. QED.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #10 August 29, 2006 QuoteQuote America is in control of Iraq's oil Would everyone stop, please, on this topic? If it was really about the oil, WE WOULD OWN THE OIL. We don't own the oil, so therefore, it's not about the oil. QED. Um....if it wasnt for the oil...we wouldnt be there...I hate to break this to you.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #11 August 29, 2006 Quote He's got nothing to lose. Actually, we as a nation have a lot to lose if Bush did this. You're lending creditability to someone that shouldn't have creditability lent to. He won't answer questions, and he'll just try to inspire all of the Muslim fanatics that are already out there. Stakes are becoming pretty clear here. Someone needs to be the clear winner, and let's hope it's not the Muslim Ummah.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #12 August 29, 2006 Quote Um....if it wasnt for the oil...we wouldnt be there...I hate to break this to you. Vs. being in Darfur, yes I agree with that point. But, it's more than about Iraq's oil. That's my point.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,031 #13 August 29, 2006 >so therefore, it's not about the oil. I think the only thing sillier than saying "it's all about the oil" is claiming "it has nothing to do with the oil." Quote from Wolfowitz, when asked why military action was required in Iraq but not North Korea: ""Let's look at it simply. The most important difference between North Korea and Iraq is that economically, we just had no choice in Iraq. The country swims on a sea of oil." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #14 August 29, 2006 QuoteQuoteThere is nothing for Pres. Bush to gain from a debate with Iran's leader. Of course there is! He'll be debating a leader of another nation, and, if he does a respectible job at it, he might get some more support. He's got nothing to lose. Have you seen the interview with the Pres of Iran? He isn't going to answer any hard questions. Nothing will be resolved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,031 #15 August 29, 2006 >Actually, we as a nation have a lot to lose if Bush did this. You're > lending creditability to someone that shouldn't have creditability lent > to. He won't answer questions, and he'll just try to inspire all of the > Muslim fanatics that are already out there. If he is a nut, and Bush responded reasonably and logically, it would go a long way towards showing the world which side is the more reasonable one. Of course, if Bush does the same thing he does (i.e. gives speeches and refuses to answer questions) then nothing is gained; both leaders come off as ideolouges. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #16 August 29, 2006 Quote I think the only thing sillier than saying "it's all about the oil" is claiming "it has nothing to do with the oil." Agreed.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #17 August 29, 2006 Quote If he is a nut, and Bush responded reasonably and logically, it would go a long way towards showing the world which side is the more reasonable one. You make it sound like the world is full of reasonable people. It's not, Bill. Far from it. That's why we're at this point in the Earth's history. We, as Americans, must start seeing this as the case. Only then will we be able to deal with this potentially long term conflict effectively.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #18 August 29, 2006 Nothing ever EVER gets resolved in public debates. I personally consider public debates to be a waste of time. I really don't understand why people place any importance in them. Why would they choose one opponent over another just by a public debate. All that shows is that one person is a better speaker then the other. Nothing of importance gets resolved. Nothing specific is actually brought up. All they are trying to do is one up each other in the eyes of the audience. All the real diplomacy and negotiation is done behind closed doors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #19 August 29, 2006 QuoteNothing ever EVER gets resolved in public debates. Cool ... so when is America planning on starting yet another war? It's good to know that America holds the moral ground on the entire world and that they can invade any country whenever they wish for whatever reason they come up with. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #20 August 29, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteThere is nothing for Pres. Bush to gain from a debate with Iran's leader. Of course there is! He'll be debating a leader of another nation, and, if he does a respectible job at it, he might get some more support. He's got nothing to lose. Have you seen the interview with the Pres of Iran? He isn't going to answer any hard questions. Nothing will be resolved. And people will see that. That can only be good for Bush. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #21 August 29, 2006 QuoteQuoteNothing ever EVER gets resolved in public debates. Cool ... so when is America planning on starting yet another war? It's good to know that America holds the moral ground on the entire world and that they can invade any country whenever they wish for whatever reason they come up with. No country anywhere on this planet holds the moral ground. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,031 #22 August 29, 2006 >You make it sound like the world is full of reasonable people. It's >not, Bill. Far from it. That's why we're at this point in the Earth's > history. Everyone in the world is not reasonable, but most are. We claim democracy works because of this; it's sort of the basis of the whole idea. >We, as Americans, must start seeing this as the case. That everyone but us is incapable of self-government? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #23 August 29, 2006 Only those people that are already on the US's side of the debate would see that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #24 August 29, 2006 Most people who are interested in politics, no matter whether they're republican, democrat, libertarian, green, or other, would watch that debate. Others around the world would probably watch it. China, Iran, Iraq and some other middle eastern countries might not see it, but it would be accessable to a good part of the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #25 August 29, 2006 I wasn't talking about accessibility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites