Muenkel 0 #1 September 7, 2006 We've discussed many topics in regard to religions such as Christianity, Islam, Judaism and how their individual faiths do not agree with science. Buddhism has been around for over 5000 years and is a very peace loving religion. Their belief in reincarnation cannot be proven by science. What are your thoughts on this subject? Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #2 September 7, 2006 Quote Buddhism has been around for over 5000 years and is a very peace loving religion. You mean that religon that those kick ass Shaolin monks, and the Sri Lankan suicide bombers practice.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #3 September 7, 2006 I'm not referring to the extremists. The religion as a whole is very peaceful. I have friends who practise Buddhism who do not condone violence in the name of their religion. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #4 September 7, 2006 QuoteWe've discussed many topics in regard to religions such as Christianity, Islam, Judaism and how their individual faiths do not agree with science. Buddhism has been around for over 5000 years and is a very peace loving religion. Their belief in reincarnation cannot be proven by science. What are your thoughts on this subject? Chris I thought Buddhism was a way of life and not a religionhttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #5 September 7, 2006 Reicarnation is same as heaven and hell don't you think, Christians try to reach for that heaven, and buddist tries to break the circle by reaching state of nirvana, atleast that's what I understand. But in christianity it only takes one step to go from here to heaven or hell, but in buddhism there are couple steps before breaking the circle of life. Stan Marsh in SOUTH PARK says "Maybe we shouldn't look for heaven that may or may not exist, but we should look for heaven, right here right now on earth,and try to make the world better place for everyone."Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #6 September 7, 2006 Quote Buddhism has been around for over 5000 years and is a very peace loving religion. Their belief in reincarnation cannot be proven by science. What are your thoughts on this subject? Alot of people on the planet believe in that. And, it doesn't defy the 1st Law of Thermo, in my understanding.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #7 September 7, 2006 LOL... Just pulling your plonker dudeWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #8 September 7, 2006 QuoteLOL... Just pulling your plonker dude Since I don't know what a plonker is, I don't know if I should enjoy that or not. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZJ 0 #9 September 7, 2006 Ask me in my next life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #10 September 7, 2006 Quote Since I don't know what a plonker is, A wanker wanks his plonker, or something like that. The Brits thrive on ambiguity, especially in their pronounciations.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaden 0 #11 September 8, 2006 I’ll bite… I believe that when a person dies, the strengths of their soul are re-born into a new life. The re-birth is dependant on personal development of virtues and karma. With karma, what goes around comes around. We all have strength and weakness, don’t treat people like shit. Just making the effort to help someone usually has a positive affect. I also think that the longer a soul has been around the less it has to fear. It takes mad courage to face your fears. I have no proof to back this up and I don’t like to argue…It’s just an opinion. Feel free to rip it up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #12 September 8, 2006 QuoteI’ll bite… I believe that when a person dies, the strengths of their soul are re-born into a new life. The re-birth is dependant on personal development of virtues and karma. With karma, what goes around comes around. We all have strength and weakness, don’t treat people like shit. Just making the effort to help someone usually has a positive affect. I also think that the longer a soul has been around the less it has to fear. It takes mad courage to face your fears. I have no proof to back this up and I don’t like to argue…It’s just an opinion. Feel free to rip it up. I wouldn't dare 'rip it up'. That is your faith and I respect that.Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #13 September 8, 2006 I currently have few "beliefs" about death. Mainly cuz I don't know what I think ... "beliefs" are harder to change than "thoughts." I do believe that there is some existance after "death" and I'm comfortable saying "believe" because it's critical to my soul and psyche to understand death as a continuation of live. So right now, my thoughts are: I was taught that it was Heaven/Hell. I learned about reincarnation and thought Jonathan Livingston Seagull was a good read. I have yet to experience either. I have had dreams about reincarnation and stairways and other interesting journeys... but those were just dreams. I think that we, at this level of understanding, have a difficult time with it... just as 200 years ago, we had a difficult time understanding space.... I love discussing it and hope that with growth comes a broader knowledge of different dimensions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
favaks 0 #14 September 8, 2006 Reincarnation is not a Buddhist concept. It is Hindu's. Buddhists believe in reborn. They are not the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #15 September 8, 2006 In my next life, I want to be reincarnated into a Kobe cow. Getting massages all day, and having old ladies spit beer on me... Sure beats working. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #16 September 8, 2006 QuoteReincarnation is not a Buddhist concept. It is Hindu's. Buddhists believe in reborn. They are not the same. Seriously, how do they differ? I know my friends definitely use the term reincarnation. I know it involves the person's energy and karma and that some time after death, that energy becomes a new life (not necessarily human). Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #17 September 8, 2006 buddhism is one source of the christ myth, and not as 'peace-loving' as you want to believe. the universal Law of Attraction is absolute.we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #18 September 8, 2006 I always wanted to be reincarnated as a vagina, but on second thought, maybe that's not such a good idea. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #19 September 8, 2006 Reincarnation? I want to come back as a inside dog with a real nice owner. I can lick myself, whenever I want my master will feed, water and bath me and I'll be their best friend and learn lots of tricks. My Luck I'll come back as a dog chained to a rusty bumper in a junk yard, kicked every day outside rain or shine, Fed only when someone tries to climb over the fence at night, drinking rain water out of a rusty hub cap. R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #20 September 8, 2006 QuoteReicarnation is same as heaven and hell don't you think, Christians try to reach for that heaven, and buddist tries to break the circle by reaching state of nirvana, atleast that's what I understand. But in christianity it only takes one step to go from here to heaven or hell, but in buddhism there are couple steps before breaking the circle of life. Seems a lot more reasonable than Christianity doesn't it? I mean no matter how many lifes you have fucked up you get infinitely more chances and the worst case scenario is being a lower life form temporarily and once you reach nirvana it is permanent. In Christianity you have approximately 65 years to make decisions that will have one of two extreme outcomes that will last an eternity. If you meet the standard during your one life you have eternal bliss; fuck up once too often and you get eternal horrific suffering. Heck christianity sentences you to eternal agony even if due to personal suffering you end your own life. Part of me really hopes the buddists are right because christianity is too extreme in its outcomes. Cheers, Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #21 September 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteReicarnation is same as heaven and hell don't you think, Christians try to reach for that heaven, and buddist tries to break the circle by reaching state of nirvana, atleast that's what I understand. But in christianity it only takes one step to go from here to heaven or hell, but in buddhism there are couple steps before breaking the circle of life. Seems a lot more reasonable than Christianity doesn't it? I mean no matter how many lifes you have fucked up you get infinitely more chances and the worst case scenario is being a lower life form temporarily and once you reach nirvana it is permanent. In Christianity you have approximately 65 years to make decisions that will have one of two extreme outcomes that will last an eternity. If you meet the standard during your one life you have eternal bliss; fuck up once too often and you get eternal horrific suffering. Heck christianity sentences you to eternal agony even if due to personal suffering you end your own life. Part of me really hopes the buddists are right because christianity is too extreme in its outcomes. Cheers, Richards Actually, the average life span for humans is a few years more than 65, but for the sake of argument, we won't bicker over that. However, what we can debate on is that one's time in THIS life is, according to you, too short to make the right choices... to meet the standard as you put it. Just a couple of points... If we're talking about the Christian viewpoint (which your post does), you've left out an important -indeed crucial- consideration and that is Grace. While it's true that, according to Christianity, you only have one shot, you are not left alone, w/o God's assistance which is a simple way of saying that God gives you the Grace sufficient to make it to Heaven. He (sic) gives you the tools, the capacity if you will, to know Him, love Him and serve Him so that you can attain eternal life and not damnation. The second point leads from the first. This life, with the help of Grace is sufficient to reach the eternal goal of Heaven. There isn't any reason to despair. Whereas in the case of reincarnation you get a bunch of "do-overs" in the form of other lives, it could actually be in the form of high life forms or loewr depeding on how you've lived your former life (at least as I understand that particular belief. I could be wrong.) In Christianity, however, you have "do-overs" in your present life. It's called forgiveness. Redemption. Conversion. Until you stop sucking air, you're allowed to return yet again to the God. As for the suicide question you noted... at least in my own religious tradition, those who commit suicide are not automatically damned to hell b/c they took their own life. True, the ACT of suicide, objectively, is a seroius one. Subjectively however, there are factors that mitigate ones culpability for the act. For example, did the person have depression? Did they think/feel/believe that they had no other recourse out of their suffering than to end it that way? It is Christian teaching, at least in my faith, that God has mercy on these people. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #22 September 8, 2006 Quotebuddhism is one source of the christ myth, and not as 'peace-loving' as you want to believe. the universal Law of Attraction is absolute. Put down the doobs and explain what on earth you're talking about.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #23 September 8, 2006 Just a little old fashioned karma comin' down. Willey Nelson: Tougher than Leather Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #24 September 8, 2006 While I believe in Karma (Christian terminology -- you reap what you sow) I don't believe in reincarnation, just as many do not believe in Christ as Son of God.. I have no issue with those who do believe in reincarnation, I just can't grasp it intellectually or spiritually. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #25 September 8, 2006 I once wanted to be reincarnated as this REALLY HOT chicks bicycle seat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
