Study: "Men are smarter than women"

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News:

Men are more intelligent than women, claims new study

A controversial new study has claimed that men really are more intelligent than women.

The study - carried out by a man - concluded that men's IQs are almost four points higher than women's.

British-born researcher John Philippe Rushton, who previously created a furore by suggesting intelligence is influenced by race, says the finding could explain why so few women make it to the top in the workplace.

He claims the 'glass ceiling' phenomenon is probably due to inferior intelligence, rather than discrimination or lack of opportunity...

Full story: Daily Mail

[wmw999 2,545]

Oh my.
What a wonderful opportunity for gross generalization . The statistical significance of 4 points is what exactly???? What's his margin of error? What's his methodology? What's his test look like?

Define "intelligence" for that matter. And can you really study intelligence by looking at teenagers

I read the article. I await the explosion

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Lindercles 0]

And the most important question of all, why is that controversial?

[wmw999 2,545]

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And the most important question of all, why is that controversial?

WHACK!

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[justinb138 0]

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He claims the 'glass ceiling' phenomenon is probably due to inferior intelligence, rather than discrimination or lack of opportunity...

There's a good book by Warren Farrell on the subject. It's explains the "glass ceiling" thing pretty well.

[yamtx73 0]

Time to get some popcorn and watch the fireworks...

The only naturals in this sport shit thru feathers...

[Remster 30]

John

Really

Why did you even imagine this wasnt SC material!

Remster

[Cudlo 0]

"Define "intelligence" for that matter."

Generally defined (at least in my psych courses) as what can be quantified by an IQ test. General knowledge as compared to a given age group, and ability to adapt to new information.

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[wmw999 2,545]

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Why did you even imagine this wasnt SC material!

What do you mean! He's just posting something from the newspaper

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Muenkel 0]

If men were really smarter than women, they wouldn't do studies like that. They would just keep their mouths shut.

Chris

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[Skyrad 0]

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Oh my.
What a wonderful opportunity for gross generalization . The statistical significance of 4 points is what exactly???? What's his margin of error? What's his methodology? What's his test look like?

Define "intelligence" for that matter. And can you really study intelligence by looking at teenagers

I read the article. I await the explosion

Wendy W.

See, if you were a man you wouldn't have to ask all those questions, you'd know the answers!

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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[wmw999 2,545]

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Generally defined (at least in my psych courses) as what can be quantified by an IQ test. General knowledge as compared to a given age group, and ability to adapt to new information.

OK, then are you smarter or stupider than someone who knows about cars.

When you're in a garage.

Are you smarter or stupider than someone who speaks Spanish fluently.

When you're in Mexico.

The point is that we're talking about fuzzy things here as we try to define what "general knowledge" is, and "ability to adapt to new information." BTW, general knowledge often isn't included. However, the assumption of a common body of knowledge is one of the things that leads to a culture-centric definition of intelligence.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[wmw999 2,545]

Ya know, so far I haven't seen a single reply that couldn't go into Bonfire
Good work. Let's piss someone off.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[christelsabine 1]

Weapon threads failed.

Is this the last weapon you pull out, JR?

Holy donkey, ROFLMAO - I love your posts - telling a lot about you, cowboy

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[christelsabine 1]

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If men were really smarter than women, they wouldn't do studies like that. They would just keep their mouths shut.

Chris

You are a very wise young man, Chris
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dudeist skydiver # 3105

[SpeedRacer 1]

yep, Chis has it right.

The guy that did this study will never get laid again, so we can conclude he's a moron.

Therefore we shouldn't trust his results.

Speed Racer
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[christelsabine 1]

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Ya know, so far I haven't seen a single reply that couldn't go into Bonfire
Good work. Let's piss someone off.

Wendy W.

"I hear the sound of distance drums - far away, far away ..."

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[jshatzkin 0]

There is a lot of study and discussion in the area of intelligence. Daniel Goleman has done some great stuff on emotional intelligence, which measures a different type of intelligence than IQ. He calls it EQ, and it seems to play a bigger role in job/relational/ overall success than IQ.
Some argue that IQ tests are biased and narrow and do not really define or conclude the totality of what true intelligence entails. Intelligence is so wide and complex, to "measure" it by a simple written test and nothing else, is slowly showing to be inaccurate.

Jen

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There is a lot of study and discussion in the area of intelligence. Daniel Goleman has done some great stuff on emotional intelligence, which measures a different type of intelligence than IQ. He calls it EQ, and it seems to play a bigger role in job/relational/ overall success than IQ.
Some argue that IQ tests are biased and narrow and do not really define or conclude the totality of what true intelligence entails. Intelligence is so wide and complex, to "measure" it by a simple written test and nothing else, is slowly showing to be inaccurate.

Are you TRYING to start another 10-page waste of your time...lol. :)

linz

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[jshatzkin 0]

No. Just stating that many psychologists are discussing/disagreeing about the definition of intelligence, including the testing of it!
I have no real opinion either way

I have read some studies that point to women having better verbal capabilities and men having better mathmatical capabilities,..but some argue that sexes are socialized in school and community toward these areas. So much still to learn about intelligence!

Jen

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your mental wee man

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[kelpdiver 2]

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What a wonderful opportunity for gross generalization . The statistical significance of 4 points is what exactly???? What's his margin of error? What's his methodology? What's his test look like?

I'm sure one could find a 4 pt range, and it would be statistically significant. It's nearly half a standard deviation.

But all your other questions are more important. There are many different measures for IQ, but most are an attempt to place a person on a bell curve of performance on some sort of test. Analogies are a classic favorite, but rely on the person to know the definition of the words used.

And success in the workplace has so many other issues involved that I know a 4 pt delta has no real importance. Effort alone has got to be worth at least as much.

[Muenkel 0]

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Ya know, so far I haven't seen a single reply that couldn't go into Bonfire

You know, when I was posting my reply I suddenly found myself in SC. For a moment I thought WTF? Then went back to bonfire.

Chris

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[kallend 2,108]

Nice weather here in Chicago today.

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[Gawain 0]

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SHUT UP!! What the hell do you know? Those are stupidhead-girly questions!!

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