Firebombs & Riots: Angry muslims (is there any other kind?) Protest Pope's Remarks

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So what else is new? In Arab psychology, everything is black and white, so there really is no other reaction for them to have besides screaming with rage and blowing things (and people) to smithereens any time someone says something even slighty critical (or even questioning) about their so-called "religion" (death cult is what I've called it here).

And we in the West are supposed to "accomodate" these beasts?

"Violence in the name of faith is never acceptable in any religion and that (the pope) considers it his duty to challenge Islam and anyone else on this."

mh

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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

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It's really sad in my view. One side claiming a religion of peace, while another practices a religion of domineering-submission. We know who gets the press, and the so-called "realists" do nothing to truly publicly denounce the fanatics.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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The irony is that they are only proving the point that they think the pope was making in the first place (which he wasn't).

And I'm continually amazed at how "religious fundies" are all lumped together, Christians and Muslims, etc.... do Christians do these things when they misinterpret the remarks of a Muslim leader? Do they firebomb and burn the leader in effigy?



Didn't think so. Yeah, we're ALL the same aren't we.

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So what else is new? In Arab psychology, everything is black and white, so there really is no other reaction for them to have besides screaming with rage and blowing things (and people) to smithereens any time someone says something even slighty critical (or even questioning) about their so-called "religion" (death cult is what I've called it here).

And we in the West are supposed to "accomodate" these beasts?

"Violence in the name of faith is never acceptable in any religion and that (the pope) considers it his duty to challenge Islam and anyone else on this."

mh

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Your world view seems rather black and white. I work daily with Christians, Arabs, Iranians, Hindus, atheists and Jews. I don't find the Arabs and Iranians any angrier than the others. My colleague most likely to blow his top is Jewish, and the most placid is an Iranian.

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Didn't think so. Yeah, we're ALL the same aren't we.

heh

mh

"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

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So what else is new? In Arab psychology, everything is black and white, so there really is no other reaction for them to have besides screaming with rage and blowing things (and people) to smithereens any time someone says something even slighty critical (or even questioning) about their so-called "religion" (death cult is what I've called it here).

And we in the West are supposed to "accomodate" these beasts?

"Violence in the name of faith is never acceptable in any religion and that (the pope) considers it his duty to challenge Islam and anyone else on this."

mh

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Your world view seems rather black and white. I work daily with Christians, Arabs, Iranians, Hindus, atheists and Jews. I don't find the Arabs and Iranians any angrier than the others. My colleague most likely to blow his top is Jewish, and the most placid is an Iranian.

And your "sample" is representative? Puh-lease.

I also know plenty of very peaceful muslims and people of middle eastern descent and your point is well taken. Markharju's post does seem a little beyond the pale but the point behind his post has some validity to it also.

I miss Lee.
And JP.
And Chris. And...

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You also live and work in an ivory tower, which colors your (very narrow) worldview. It's a different world on the street.

mh

"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

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Your post is just another racist rant, what a suprise.

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Whatever!

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Am I bovverd?

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Look at my face Do I look bovvered?

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The poor in all societies are generally violent. It is their only avenue.

However, it seems that the leadership in some societies grooms all sections of that society to believe that violence is the only answer.
"Our only solution is a hammer. Every problem is now a nail."

Until the leadership changes, the direction and methods of the populace will continue. The Middle East has been at war on a weekly basis for 2,000 years.

As societies develop economic relationships among themselves and grow out of poverty, most get beyond barbarism. They now have that opportunity, but their masters hinder them.

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In Arab psychology, everything is black and white, so there really is no other reaction for them to have besides screaming with rage and blowing things (and people) to smithereens any time someone says something even slighty critical (or even questioning) about their so-called "religion" (death cult is what I've called it here).

Serious question, do you think it is the Koran, the 'leadership' of Islam or the current society in the middle east that you blame for these types of actions?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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I gotta say, I am full on for stopping terrorism, but I had a roommate at Crosskeys, from Kenya, that was Muslim, not practicing, but still. Some know Washir. One of the most kindest people that I have met on my travels. One of those people I would trust with anything. Genuine person. Muslims and Islamo-facists are two different people. He is Black Muslim, I am not a religion expert. Washir was learnign to be a pilot and there was not one person there that would not trust him with their life. Kind of like not all Christians are radical right...but before a comment is made ther is still quite a difference between those "radicals"

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So what else is new? In Arab psychology, everything is black and white, so there really is no other reaction for them to have besides screaming with rage and blowing things (and people) to smithereens any time someone says something even slighty critical (or even questioning) about their so-called "religion" (death cult is what I've called it here).

And we in the West are supposed to "accomodate" these beasts?

"Violence in the name of faith is never acceptable in any religion and that (the pope) considers it his duty to challenge Islam and anyone else on this."

mh

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Your world view seems rather black and white. I work daily with Christians, Arabs, Iranians, Hindus, atheists and Jews. I don't find the Arabs and Iranians any angrier than the others. My colleague most likely to blow his top is Jewish, and the most placid is an Iranian.

And your "sample" is representative? Puh-lease.

I also know plenty of very peaceful muslims and people of middle eastern descent and your point is well taken. Markharju's post does seem a little beyond the pale but the point behind his post has some validity to it also.

Given that the title of the thread contains "Angry muslims (is there any other kind?)", it seems to me that kallend's comment is quite appropriate as a counter-example. It only takes one counter-example to disprove a hypothesis, not a statistical analysis.

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Yea, I'm talking to YOU!

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Yea, I'm talking to YOU!

My my, someone is in the mood today. What I can't figure out is if you're trying to annoy markharju or seduce him...

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LMAO

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so there really is no other reaction for them to have besides screaming with rage and blowing things (and people) to smithereens

Based on what happened a few months ago with the Dannish cartoons, it was only a matter of time before some of these Muslims would riot over the Pope's speach. The Pope was wrong for saying what he did. He should know better ... unless of course he did this on purpose to stir the pot. But Muslims are much too emotional when it comes to their religion. This is getting out of hand and I'm afraid it will get a lot worse (if it ever gets better). They remind me of little children who go ballistic when they don't get their way.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

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You also live and work in an ivory tower, which colors your (very narrow) worldview. It's a different world on the street.

mh

I live in a suburb of Chicago and work on the south side of the city. You delude yourself.

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A while back, there was a discussion about the Middle East practice of aligning the govt policies with the religion. It is so close that some are essentially theocracies. Iran comes to mind.

When asked, the Muslims responded with (paraphrased), "Why do you claim to be a Christian country, but you do not have leaders with Christian-based values ?"

Of course, that would be a task to determine what constitutes the core Christian values.

Muslims are just more serious about their religion.
In the US, political leaders that make "faith-based" (whatever definition that has) decisions are not popular.

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A while back, there was a discussion about the Middle East practice of aligning the govt policies with the religion. It is so close that some are essentially theocracies. Iran comes to mind.

When asked, the Muslims responded with (paraphrased), "Why do you claim to be a Christian country, but you do not have leaders with Christian-based values ?"

Of course, that would be a task to determine what constitutes the core Christian values.

Muslims are just more serious about their religion.
In the US, political leaders that make "faith-based" (whatever definition that has) decisions are not popular.

And those US political leaders who call themselves "christian," well... let's just say that a lot of other christians find their beliefs questionable, esp. in light of current world events.

i'm reminded that the former pope, JPII, strongly cautioned W against starting a war in Iraq but that fell on deaf ears.

I miss Lee.
And JP.
And Chris. And...

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you really have no clue mark.

and the thread title would indicate that you have not even met any Muslims.
but don't let that stiffle uneducated political/racist comments

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Yep I bet there aren't any in Kosovo huh?

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Yep I bet there aren't any in Kosovo huh?

There are many, and since he's there, I will trust Mark's statement that all Kosovian muslims are angry. It also seems that all US armed forces personel serving there seems pretty bitter and angry at muslims. That's a great mix for good times to come.

Last night, I had wonderful lamb skewers from a Chinese Muslim restaurant. As luck had it, not only were the skewers delicious, but the muslims inside the restaurant restrained themselves from lynching me.

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