freeflir29 0 #76 September 26, 2006 QuoteAnd again, the majority if not all the chemicals left were not usable. OK...........you have said that 3 times now I think. Where do you get this info? This report seems to contradict (HUGE understatement) your claim. But what would I know about weapons? Just so you don't miss the IMPORTANT part I'll post it for you. "SECOND, IT BEGAN TO DEVELOP BINARY CHEMICAL WEAPONS. IN A BINARY MUNITION, THE TWO PRECURSOR CHEMICALS ARE STORED SEPARATELY AND ONLY MIXED TO FORM THE CHEMICAL AGENT IMMEDIATELY BEFORE OR WHEN THE ROUND IS IN FLIGHT. THUS, THE SHELF LIFE OF THE AGENT BECOMES IRRELEVANT; MOREOVER, THE MUNITION IS SAFER TO HANDLE AND STORE. BY 1990 IRAQ HAD SUCCESSFULLY TESTED 155-MM ARTILLERY SHELLS AND OTHER BINARY MUNITIONS AND LAUNCHED A BALLISTIC MISSILE WITH A BINARY WARHEAD AS WELL." Quotehe wouldn't have had many oportunities for any large scale attackw ith those weapons. Really? www.cfr.org/publication/9238/ So you're saying a nut job religious leader in Japan can mount a large scale attack with chemical weapons but the leader of a large middle eastern country with the command of a HUGE military machine can't? I'd beg to differ on that one. Do you feel like you are losing the argument yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #77 September 26, 2006 QuoteOK...........you have said that 3 times now I think. Where do you get this info? This report seems to contradict That report is over 10 years old and has absoluitely no bearing on anything current. (the report was uploaded on July 15th, 1996. QuoteSo you're saying a nut job religious leader in Japan can mount a large scale attack with chemical weapons but the leader of a large middle eastern country with the command of a HUGE military machine can't? I'd beg to differ on that one. That nutjob also wasn't under the constant scrutiny of the US military and the UN...was it? It has no bearing at all to what we are discussing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #78 September 26, 2006 QuoteThat report is over 10 years old and has absoluitely no bearing on anything current. (the report was uploaded on July 15th, 1996. So you're saying that Saddam, seeing the error of his ways, repented and tossed all that technology? Sooty please! QuoteThat nutjob also wasn't under the constant scrutiny of the US military and the UN...was it? Ahhh...........so the US military, from OUTSIDE the country, could track the movement of every single person, box, truck, car, and plane that left Iraq. We're occupying the country and we can't do that now. What the hell makes you think we could do it back then? Once again...........WEAK argument. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #79 September 26, 2006 Hmm Right, as if SH never refused the UN to inspect its soil. facilities, during, the oil for food progam"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #80 September 26, 2006 QuoteAhhh...........so the US military, from OUTSIDE the country, could track the movement of every single person, box, truck, car, and plane that left Iraq. We're occupying the country and we can't do that now. What the hell makes you think we could do it back then? Funny, it was Rumsfeld who said they knew exactly where they were. You mean to tell me he is a liar? QuoteSo you're saying that Saddam, seeing the error of his ways, repented and tossed all that technology? Sooty please! So, where are all these massive amounts of niary weapons then? Or the large amounts of Sarin? According to that report you posted, the CIA at that time believed SH had manufactured either one of those in large amounts. Are you telling me that while Rumsfeld knew exactly where they were, those "stupid towelheads" outsmarted the entire US Intelligence and military community and removed them and buried them where no one can find them? Remember, according to that report there are large quantities.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,009 #81 September 26, 2006 >So you're saying that Saddam, seeing the error of his ways, repented and tossed all that technology? Nope - we blew it to bits. Google how many tons of bombs we dropped on his military facilities between 1996 and 2003. >so the US military, from OUTSIDE the country, could track >the movement of every single person, box, truck, car, and plane >that left Iraq. That was the claim back then; we were going to invade to secure his vast WMD arsenal. Are you saying that we were misled? Horrors! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #82 September 26, 2006 QuoteAre you telling me that while Rumsfeld knew exactly where they were, those "stupid towelheads" outsmarted the entire US Intelligence and military community and removed them and buried them where no one can find them? Nope.........I've been told we know EXACTLY where they went. However..........because of where I am right now and who is reading this and the fact that I hold a security clearance..........I'm not going to discuss this any further. Sorry. QuoteYou mean to tell me he is a liar? Nope.........there are lots of people lieing to cover this crap up. Why.........I really don't understand it all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #83 September 26, 2006 QuoteNope.........I've been told we know EXACTLY where they went. However..........because of where I am right now and who is reading this and the fact that I hold a security clearance..........I'm not going to discuss this any further. Sorry. Ahh the infamous, I know you'll just have to trust me line.... If they know, why not go and secure them? QuoteNope.........there are lots of people lieing to cover this crap up. Lots of people are lying and he isn't one of them? or he is, but it is okay cause lots of people are lying about it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #84 September 26, 2006 QuoteIf they know, why not go and secure them? I have NO idea. Good question. QuoteAhh the infamous, I know you'll just have to trust me line.... Yeah.........I'd love to risk my job and going to jail just to prove a point to you............mmmmm......but no. QuoteLots of people are lying and he isn't one of them? I haven't heard any from him. Like I said.........I have no idea why what happened happened. Maybe we'll all know in about 50 or 100 years when they start declassifying documents from this era. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
