Cindy Shehan Nobel Prize Winner?

[Michele 1]

Oh dear God. Apparently she has been nominated, and is claiming to be a runner up. Except they don't release the names of runners-up, do they? Or the finalists?

Anyone have any info on this stuff?

Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[redlegphi 0]

Anybody or anything can be nominated by anybody. The sport of football (or soccer for us Americans) was nominated one year. There's nothing that special about being nominated. I have no idea if they name "Runners up". What would that even be exactly? As far as I know, they just pick the winner, there is no 2nd place or honorable mention or silver medal that I know of.

[Gravitymaster 0]

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Oh dear God. Apparently she has been nominated, and is claiming to be a runner up. Except they don't release the names of runners-up, do they? Or the finalists?

Anyone have any info on this stuff?

Ciels-
Michele

I haven't cared about the Nobel Prize since it was given to Yasser Arafat. I think that was a defining moment in the decline of it's stature.

[kelpdiver 2]

she's a publicity hound, no doubt there. And I'm sure there's no way to disprove this claim unless the Nobel committee decides to do so, and they probably make a point of not.

Curious to hear her explain what she's done to warrant the prize. Usually the nominee actually accomplishes something - an end to a war, for example. Or at least getting the Democrats in power. Neither happened, and even had they, a lot of other people deserve more credit (starting with Howard Dean).

[Gawain 0]

It was my understanding that candidate lists for the Nobel were kept secret.

Anyway, the Peace prize for 2006 was awarded to Muhammad Yunus from Bangladesh.

Sheehan has done nothing to even merit consideration in my book. Her only contribution that I'm aware of is to disparage the memory of her son, and demonstrate against all that he represented.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[Gawain 0]

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Anyone have any info on this stuff?

I would also like to point out that the USA took four of the six awards..."America! F*ck yeah!!" ...

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[Gawain 0]

...AND...did you know the prize for a Nobel is valued at 10,000,000 Swedish Kronor, or about $1.35M.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[jenfly00 0]

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Oh dear God. Apparently she has been nominated, and is claiming to be a runner up. Except they don't release the names of runners-up, do they? Or the finalists?

Anyone have any info on this stuff?

Ciels-
Michele

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-93433/Nobel-Prize

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"O brave new world that has such people in it".

[masterrig 1]

Makes me wonder, about the nominating comittee. I really don't believe her protests are so much about her deceased son or U.S. troops any longer but, more about Cindy Sheehan.


Chuck

[Lucky... 0]

I watched her speak a few hours ago. Although I am for her agenda, she is less than spectacular to watch. She is a soccer mom, nothing more. She is right that Bush is a slimey murderer, scumbag out for corporate interests, but she is no genius or hero.

She is an OK speaker, but pauses and has a limited vocabulary. I like her and she even blamed the Dems for part of the Congrerssional going along with Bush. She also said that we are in the bag we are due to the Republicans, which is a no-brainer, but the Dems are certainly culpable as well. I agree with it all.

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Makes me wonder, about the nominating comittee.

I believe just about anybody can nominate just about anyone else. Theoretically I should be able to nominate dropzone.com and/or any or all of our favorite dot.commies for a Nobel.

Mohammed Yunus is the kind of prize winner I really like to see. The guy started his own bank, to make small loans to impoverished people (91% of his lenders are single women in Third World countries), so they can get crooked moneylenders off their backs and start up small businesses. Talk about saving the world one person at a time..... He also understands a big little secret that the big banks refuse to admit - that the poor, while they have no collateral, are still the most reliable people for paying off their loans.

Well done, for a Nobel to the kind of person who deserves it !

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

[masterrig 1]

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Makes me wonder, about the nominating comittee.

I believe just about anybody can nominate just about anyone else. Theoretically I should be able to nominate dropzone.com and/or any or all of our favorite dot.commies for a Nobel.

Mohammed Yunus is the kind of prize winner I really like to see. The guy started his own bank, to make small loans to impoverished people (91% of his lenders are single women in Third World countries), so they can get crooked moneylenders off their backs and start up small businesses. Talk about saving the world one person at a time..... He also understands a big little secret that the big banks refuse to admit - that the poor, while they have no collateral, are still the most reliable people for paying off their loans.

Well done, for a Nobel to the kind of person who deserves it !

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You know, I can go along with you on Mr. Yunus but, to me, Mrs. Sheehan is a crazy woman. They really need to look into the nominating comittee. Maybe, clear house and start over!


Chuck

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You know, I can go along with you on Mr. Yunus but, to me, Mrs. Sheehan is a crazy woman. They really need to look into the nominating comittee. Maybe, clear house and start over!

Jenfly already posted a link about how the nominations work. There is no central committee, just a long, long list of individuals and institutions able to nominate. It seems that the idea is to be as open as possible.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[masterrig 1]

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You know, I can go along with you on Mr. Yunus but, to me, Mrs. Sheehan is a crazy woman. They really need to look into the nominating comittee. Maybe, clear house and start over!

Jenfly already posted a link about how the nominations work. There is no central committee, just a long, long list of individuals and institutions able to nominate. It seems that the idea is to be as open as possible.

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It seems as though, they have accomplished what they were wanting!


Chuck

[jakee 1,564]

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It seems as though, they have accomplished what they were wanting!

I'm quite sure there are a bunch of nutters nominated every year that we never get to hear about

Seems to me though that lately the actual awarding of the peace prize has strayed a little from its intent. Last year there was a chick who planted some trees, this year a banker - just causes and worthy of recognition for sure, but how do they actually relate to peace?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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It seems as though, they have accomplished what they were wanting!

I'm quite sure there are a bunch of nutters nominated every year that we never get to hear about

Seems to me though that lately the actual awarding of the peace prize has strayed a little from its intent. Last year there was a chick who planted some trees, this year a banker - just causes and worthy of recognition for sure, but how do they actually relate to peace?

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Seems as though, the 'prize' doesn't mean what it once did. Like so many things.


Chuck

[freethefly 6]

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Seems to me though that lately the actual awarding of the peace prize has strayed a little from its intent. Last year there was a chick who planted some trees, this year a banker - just causes and worthy of recognition for sure, but how do they actually relate to peace?

The Nobel Peace Prize for 2006
The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided to award the Nobel Peace Prize for 2006, divided into two equal parts, to Muhammad Yunus and Grameen Bank for their efforts to create economic and social development from below. Lasting peace can not be achieved unless large population groups find ways in which to break out of poverty. Micro-credit is one such means. Development from below also serves to advance democracy and human rights.

Muhammad Yunus has shown himself to be a leader who has managed to translate visions into practical action for the benefit of millions of people, not only in Bangladesh, but also in many other countries. Loans to poor people without any financial security had appeared to be an impossible idea. From modest beginnings three decades ago, Yunus has, first and foremost through Grameen Bank, developed micro-credit into an ever more important instrument in the struggle against poverty. Grameen Bank has been a source of ideas and models for the many institutions in the field of micro-credit that have sprung up around the world.

Every single individual on earth has both the potential and the right to live a decent life. Across cultures and civilizations, Yunus and Grameen Bank have shown that even the poorest of the poor can work to bring about their own development.

Micro-credit has proved to be an important liberating force in societies where women in particular have to struggle against repressive social and economic conditions. Economic growth and political democracy can not achieve their full potential unless the female half of humanity participates on an equal footing with the male.

Yunus's long-term vision is to eliminate poverty in the world. That vision can not be realised by means of micro-credit alone. But Muhammad Yunus and Grameen Bank have shown that, in the continuing efforts to achieve it, micro-credit must play a major part.

Oslo, 13 October 2006

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Last year there was a chick who planted some trees,

Wrong, it was given to;

The Nobel Peace Prize for 2005
The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2005 is to be shared, in two equal parts, between the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and its Director General, Mohamed ElBaradei, for their efforts to prevent nuclear energy from being used for military purposes and to ensure that nuclear energy for peaceful purposes is used in the safest possible way.

At a time when the threat of nuclear arms is again increasing, the Norwegian Nobel Committee wishes to underline that this threat must be met through the broadest possible international cooperation. This principle finds its clearest expression today in the work of the IAEA and its Director General. In the nuclear non-proliferation regime, it is the IAEA which controls that nuclear energy is not misused for military purposes, and the Director General has stood out as an unafraid advocate of new measures to strengthen that regime. At a time when disarmament efforts appear deadlocked, when there is a danger that nuclear arms will spread both to states and to terrorist groups, and when nuclear power again appears to be playing an increasingly significant role, IAEA's work is of incalculable importance.

In his will, Alfred Nobel wrote that the Peace Prize should, among other criteria, be awarded to whoever had done most for the "abolition or reduction of standing armies". In its application of this criterion in recent decades, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has concentrated on the struggle to diminish the significance of nuclear arms in international politics, with a view to their abolition. That the world has achieved little in this respect makes active opposition to nuclear arms all the more important today.

Oslo, 7 October 2005

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

[Skysurfer_Rob 0]

Only thing Cindy Shehan deserves is a slap to the face for being a disgraceful mother to a honorable son.

I would expect someone to do the same to my mother if I died while I'm here in Iraq, and she started protests.

"Though I Fly Through the Valley of Death, I Shall Fear No Evil...For I am at 80,000 Feet and Climbing."
SR-71 hangar entrance sign at Kadena AFB, Japan

[billvon 3,079]

>Only thing Cindy Shehan deserves is a slap to the face . . . .

Nancy Lessin and Charley Richardson of Massachusetts have a son who served in Iraq. They were carrying a "Bring them Home" banner at a protest in 2004. Perhaps someone could slap her in the face and kick him in the balls.

Sue Niederer of New Jersey, whose son was killed in Iraq, carried a sign that said "Murderer, coward, face the families" and accused the Bush of being "unfeeling and unrealistic." Maybe a right-winger could spit on her.

Annette Pritchard of Oregon had a 19 year old nephew who died in Iraq. She said that "they called him a hero but he was a victim." Some pro-war types could key her car, or break her windows, or kill her dog.

Rosa Gonzalez had a son who was killed due to friendly fire. She said that "the president doesn't take the consequences of this. I invite him to come to my home and be in my shoes for one moment." Maybe someone could call the INS on her and hope she gets deported.

Come to think of it, there are lots of ways right wingers could show these families exactly how they feel about their sacrifice.

[Amazon 7]

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Come to think of it, there are lots of ways right wingers could show these families exactly how they feel about their sacrifice.

I would like to see THEM volunteer( our wonderful right wing WAR MONGERS who have personally avoided war so well)... or have their children volunteer to support their... STAY the COURSE.... rhetoric. Hell we certainly need the manpower over there.

[shropshire 0]

The power of the Nobel prize for Peace is that it sends a message out around the world.
In my opinion, that message should be loud and strong.

Cindy Shehan, on her own would not represent that message (she could not possibly be compared to Betty Williams & Mairead Corrigan1976 or MOTHER TERESA 1979) but the prize could have been presented to a group - Families Against the war (for example) - that would have been suitable message.

But, as it happens Muhammad Yunus and Grameen Bank are deserved laureates for their excellent work.

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[NCclimber 0]

I liked her hunger strike that involved not eating anything that couldn't be chopped up in a blender.

Cindy "starved for attention" Sheehan is probably a big fan of PT Barnum.

[billvon 3,079]

>I liked her hunger strike that involved not eating anything that
>couldn't be chopped up in a blender.

She's a pretty odd person who has as valid a right to protest as anyone else. The left wing has used her as a cause celebre; the right wing hates her guts. Oddly, the more times she is attacked by the right, called things like "media whore" "traitor" "fascist" etc the more attention she will get.

Anyone recall the name of Herbert Shughart? No? He was an anti-war protester whose son died in Somalia. He made just as much noise. He claimed Clinton was directly responsible for his son's death, and claiming that he did not deserve to be president. He actually accosted Clinton during a face-to-face meeting. But since there was no coordinated effort to discredit him and smear his (and his son's) name, there was nothing to keep his name in the press, and he did not garner much national attention. A good thing to keep in mind.

[NCclimber 0]

Or maybe he didn't get nearly the media coverage Cindy Sheehan has received. We live in a different age. Today's media is about milking high drama cases for all they are worth. Almost all of these overdone, dragged out dramas involve white women being victims. In this case, the media excused her age and looks because she was taking it (or at least trying) to "The Man".

In her case, she believed her handlers.... agreeing to do assinine things, to keep the cameras rolling.

[freethefly 6]

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Only thing Cindy Shehan deserves is a slap to the face for being a disgraceful mother to a honorable son.

There you go. Answer her question with violence. She clearly loved her son and she wants an answer to why he and so many other have to die for what is clearly an illegal action.

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I would expect someone to do the same to my mother if I died while I'm here in Iraq, and she started protests.

That is truely a sad statement. Would you prefer that your mother jump for joy? Maybe if she should just ask why, would you prefer that she be kicked and made to look like a fool for her love?
I applaud Cindy and others like her for standing up and asking why.

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young