kbordson 8 #26 October 18, 2006 QuoteHow about: Men carrying a pregnancy and giving birth! NO!!!! Cuz then I'd have to take care of men... and they got cooties!!! I'd much rather just keep that anatomy for "play" and not mix it with work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaden 0 #27 October 18, 2006 Quote the human race and could change one thing, what would it be and why? QuoteI would give humans a high degree of empathy towards other humans. I totally agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #28 October 19, 2006 I'd set it up so that critical tissues, namely heart and central nervous system tissues, would regenerate when injured instead of filling in with scar tissue. Then I'd get rid of male pattern baldness. (Still can't figure out what evolutionary advantage that one has.)Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,522 #29 October 19, 2006 I'd make fertility contingent on some sort of responsible behavior, rather than something that feels so good. Yes, I realize we wouldn't have a human race if it hadn't been that way for a long time. But it's time for a change Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,063 #30 October 19, 2006 > I'd make fertility contingent on some sort of responsible behavior, Heck, I'd make it contingent on _anything._ Require women to push a button on their butt before they can get pregnant. Just having to decide one wants a baby could solve 99% of the unwanted pregnancies in the world. Wait - even better idea - change women's metabolism so that alcohol prevents conception. "Be careful tonight, honey, and don't forget to have a few beers - just in case." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #31 October 19, 2006 Quote I'd get rid of male pattern baldness. (Still can't figure out what evolutionary advantage that one has.) Reducing wind drag offsets more sluggish muscles. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,522 #32 October 19, 2006 QuoteRequire women people to push a button on their butt before they can get pregnant....Wait - even better idea - change women's human metabolism so that alcohol prevents conceptionFixed it for ya. Because, while the women do have the greatest personal impact from pregnancy, they're not the only ones who who should participate in responsible reproductive decisions (now where did that raised-eyebrow icon go?) Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #33 October 19, 2006 Quotethe human race and could change one thing, what would it be and why? I'd start off wth people having old bodies that got younger with age until you become a baby and just crawl back in there fall asleep and then after a while just drible out.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #34 October 19, 2006 QuoteBecause, while the women do have the greatest personal impact from pregnancy, they're not the only ones who who should participate in responsible reproductive decisions (now where did that raised-eyebrow icon go?) I think it's a great edit that both people have to actively choose to become a parent. With that edit, Billvon's choice, I think, is the best answer of all. However, I'd leave it as very situational to the two people involved as to who is impacted "greater. (e.g. on the non-PC side of the coin: a woman can have a kid and run off - leaving the father with a lifetime commitment - then who had the greatest personal impact?????? The woman plans it and "surprises" the man who then is compelled to take care of both by getting a job and dropping out of med school, her plan was to housewife no matter what - who had the greatest personal impact? A woman makes a man pay for her 6th baby all for the rest of his life and he isn't even the biological father. I'll compare a lifetime effect and not just the 9 months for fairness in who's impacted how.) Women have the greatest impact from "pregnancy" - obviously (men have very few problems with their uterus). But isn't the more important question is who has the greatest impact from "parenting"? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,063 #35 October 19, 2006 >Because, while the women do have the greatest personal impact >from pregnancy, they're not the only ones who who should participate in >responsible reproductive decisions . . . Right. But if two people get drunk and screw, and the next day can't remember much of what happens - one of them ends up pregnant and the other one doesn't. Ideally both people decide when they want to get pregnant. The cases we're talking about are the cases where that possibility is not even considered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #36 October 19, 2006 Quote> The cases we're talking about are the cases where that possibility is not even considered. You'd only give the button to single women that are prone to bad relationships and unprotected sex???? I think it's a great feature for sober married couples too and single men and women. BUTTONS FOR EVERYONE ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #37 October 19, 2006 QuoteQuotethe human race and could change one thing, what would it be and why? I'd start off wth people having old bodies that got younger with age until you become a baby and just crawl back in there fall asleep and then after a while just drible out. WAIT!!!!!! That would make my job INCREDIBLY difficult!! I don't like that plan. (what is it with you people?! Men having babies? putting babies back in? No! Not good!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,063 #38 October 19, 2006 >You'd only give the button to single women that are prone to >bad relationships and unprotected sex? ?? Nope, everyone gets the button (or the alcohol-mediated infertility genes.) Won't matter to someone who is currently using condoms, or who is careful about family planning - but it's not really intended for them anyway. The objective would be to _default_ to no-pregnancy even if you're an idiot (i.e. get really drunk, forget the condoms, whatever.) And anyone can be an idiot at times. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #39 October 19, 2006 Quote>but it's not really intended for them anyway. Even when creating a genetic trait applicable for an entire species, you still cater to special interest groups - even when the idea is good for all.... it's still a good idea, even with the spin (I like the button, not the alcohol-mediated infertility idea - choice is the good thing, not just situational coverage) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,063 #40 October 19, 2006 >Even when creating a genetic trait applicable for an entire >species, you still cater to special interest groups . . . That's science, not politics. Genes for melanin might well affect everyone in a population, but aren't really intended for people who live inside all the time. They don't need the additional UV protection. That's the science part. You could turn it into a racial thing about how blacks are not "supposed to be inside" or something - then it becomes politics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #41 October 19, 2006 That'll work. But the button would have changed everything and everyone, not just a particularly group you have 'extra' sympathy for. Still, not a substitute for good sense. Still doesn't keep people from pushing their buttons for the wrong reasons. And evolution would evolve our bodies into giving more pleasure for those that screw with their buttons pushed than those that didn't. So, even with the buttons, I suspect we'd eventually evolve the feature away as a survival mechanism. Still the best idea yet IMO ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #42 October 19, 2006 How about conception not occur as a possible outcome from sexual relations? Instead conception occurs during painful relations. People that want the pleasure of a child will accept the pain to conceive one. (The problem with this is that some people find pleasure in pain.) I think the idea of stopping unwanted pregnancies is valid. I think the idea of stopping pregnancies is another issue."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #43 October 19, 2006 QuoteHow about conception not occur as a possible outcome from sexual relations? Instead conception occurs during painful relations. People that want the pleasure of a child will accept the pain to conceive one.. Evolution, in terms of survival of the species, would then mean the survivors and those that reproduce are those that like painful relations. I wonder what those consequences would be??? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #44 October 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteHow about conception not occur as a possible outcome from sexual relations? Instead conception occurs during painful relations. People that want the pleasure of a child will accept the pain to conceive one.. Evolution, in terms of survival of the species, would then mean the survivors and those that reproduce are those that like painful relations. I wonder what those consequences would be??? I was just thinking that and edited my post. I'm sticking with all humans have a high degree of empathy for other humans. Can't stop reproduction and all changes appear to have possibly unwanted side effects."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #45 October 19, 2006 But we can play that game all day. In fact, I have been for the last 20 minutes. If you gave too much empathy, everyone would die for each other and the race would die out. Then who would thin the deer herds from overpopulation? WON'T SOMEONE, PLEASE, THINK OF THE FAWNS ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #46 October 19, 2006 QuoteBut we can play that game all day. In fact, I have been for the last 20 minutes. If you gave too much empathy, everyone would die for each other and the race would die out. Then who would thin the deer herds from overpopulation? WON'T SOMEONE, PLEASE, THINK OF THE FAWNS Some person may die for another person due to the empathy but I can not forsee a situation where everyone would. A higher degree of empathy would reduce the murders, wars, etc... (reasons to die for one another). Maybe we have to add the ability to use logic and reasoning too?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites