BillyVance 34
slug 1
Lawyer
been around politics to long.
Shady deals (commodity futures etc)
R.I.P.
been around politics to long.
Shady deals (commodity futures etc)
R.I.P.
Royd 0
Could you imagine having that voice in your ear every morning at breakfast? No wonder Billiy Boy went elsewhere for his pleasure.
Honestly, she's a dyed in the wool socialist who hasn't figured out that socialism causes everyone except those in power to lose, or maybe, she has.
Honestly, she's a dyed in the wool socialist who hasn't figured out that socialism causes everyone except those in power to lose, or maybe, she has.
rehmwa 2
How about someone that looks the other way (or, even worse, is oblivious), just for the sake of political expediancy, to her spouse cheating on her???
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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
kallend 2,034
QuoteHow about someone that looks the other way (or, even worse, is oblivious), just for the sake of political expediancy, to her spouse cheating on her???
You only know what transpired in public. You have no idea what a tonguelashing (
) he got in private....
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
Hmmmm...Objections to Hillary.
Let's see.
1. She and Ted"Chappaquiddick Kid" Kennedy want to desperately redistribute the wealth in this country.
They are trying to do this by taxing those that have taken responsibilty for their own future and are rewarded financially to support a growing "leach" class of society that does not want to achieve anything at all.
2. I am not a gun owner but I strongly believe that Hillary is not really after gun control but firearm confiscation. Do we really want to be treated like those poor bastards in Mexico? They have some of the strongest gun controls around and look at the internal strife of that place.
3. Have you forgotten about her attempt to nationalize healthcare? She would try and turn this country into a socialized utopia.
4.Face it. Bill Clinton is/was a bumbling idiot without her. I truly believe that she ran the presidency for those eight years. Look at some of the bs that went on and on. It all started with travel gate and escalated from there. A lot of people don't trust her and with good reason.
Chao!
Don't go away mad....just go away!
Let's see.
1. She and Ted"Chappaquiddick Kid" Kennedy want to desperately redistribute the wealth in this country.
They are trying to do this by taxing those that have taken responsibilty for their own future and are rewarded financially to support a growing "leach" class of society that does not want to achieve anything at all.
2. I am not a gun owner but I strongly believe that Hillary is not really after gun control but firearm confiscation. Do we really want to be treated like those poor bastards in Mexico? They have some of the strongest gun controls around and look at the internal strife of that place.
3. Have you forgotten about her attempt to nationalize healthcare? She would try and turn this country into a socialized utopia.
4.Face it. Bill Clinton is/was a bumbling idiot without her. I truly believe that she ran the presidency for those eight years. Look at some of the bs that went on and on. It all started with travel gate and escalated from there. A lot of people don't trust her and with good reason.
Chao!
Don't go away mad....just go away!
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Who needs Bill Clinton back in the white house anyways???
Monica?
Didn't JFK also have some suspicious liaisons in the white house too? I've heard the name Marilyn Monroe thrown around too.Excellent idea. Let's bring back JFK and get the talent.
Lucky... 0
QuoteShe's a bitch...
that's all.
Seriously, I think she's power-hungry. She had more influence than any other First Lady I've ever seen, in politics, and if a power-trip is her sole goal, I really think we would be in deep shit if we elect her president.
Who needs Bill Clinton back in the white house anyways???
Are you joking? This POS now in office has broken every rule on the limits of executive power and that's ok, but your assume Hillary would be the same? Paaaaalease
So she's a bitch, how is that substantive>
QuoteAs a political figure, she'd be almost as polarizing as Pat Robertson. We need a president who will be a tool in the process, rather than who will be the focal point.
Wendy W.
True. Her political value falls into two areas.
1- She is like Ted Kennedy in that she is not electable, but she can say things about the opposition leader that the candidate cannot.
If a candidate flames another candidate, they are mudslinging. If she does it, the actual candidate has can agree with the substance without condoning it.
"I think that she made many valid points..."
2- She draws in the womens vote because of her position. She drives sexist legislation like single-sex classrooms and calls anyone who questions her a sexist.
Lucky... 0
QuoteQuoteSeriously, I think she's power-hungry. She had more influence than any other First Lady I've ever seen, in politics, and if a power-trip is her sole goal, I really think we would be in deep shit if we elect her president.
And GW is not power hungry?????
It never ceases to amaze me how strong women are labeled a bitch when they aspire to success...
while its not labeled the same when men do it...
Nice one guys....
Count me out of that definition, althouth I'm leaning toward Obama, Hillary would be fine.
Lucky... 0
QuoteIn my opinion, she is a carpet bagger, just like so many politicians on both sides.
I heard she was a carpet muncher
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Lucky... 0
QuoteQuotedefinition of carpet bagger:
1. A Northerner who went to the South after the Civil War for political or financial advantage.
2. An outsider, especially a politician, who presumptuously seeks a position or success in a new locality.
so, it's because she has moved from one locality to another?
C'mon people. I want some substance here. People go on & on about how Hillary is Satan, there must be important reasons for it.
right?
She's a bitch.
That's enough.
Oh, well that makes it clear.
QuoteShe's a bitch.
That's enough
AKA = I have no reason, so I will defer to rhetoric. Substance guys, substance. Can we talk economy? No. Can we talk civil rights? No. How can we slam the 90's or her term as a Senator? We can't...... hence, she's a bitch...... I get it.
Lucky... 0
QuoteAs a political figure, she'd be almost as polarizing as Pat Robertson. We need a president who will be a tool in the process, rather than who will be the focal point.
Wendy W.
Name pres that has been a tool rather than a focal point, especially of late. McCain will just pump up the war, Obama will be a focal point, who else? There is so much division that I don't see this being a passive 2008 election.
Besides, Bush has been so much of a tool that I don't see the need for a tool for sometime
Lucky... 0
QuoteJust maybe, she could become the most polarizing president we've ever had, as far as getting things worked out with congress over new bills... Bush's foreign policy is bad enough. She might make it worse.
Bush is far more polarizing than Clinton could ever be. Hillary is no Bill, but I like her and will vote that way if she runs.
Furthermore, the country is so far right that a polarizer might just bring things central, where they need to be.
QuoteI'm wondering what specific policies of hers nsparently lies. people find the most objectionable.
Her disgraceful abandonment of anything close to the truth. She supported BC to further her political agenda by trodding over the bodies of women that she should have defended. (Nothing altruistic like "stand by your man", that has to be a joke.)
(You could hear cricket chirping around the NOW and other "womens" groups too.)
Lucky... 0
QuoteCould you imagine having that voice in your ear every morning at breakfast? No wonder Billiy Boy went elsewhere for his pleasure.
Honestly, she's a dyed in the wool socialist who hasn't figured out that socialism causes everyone except those in power to lose, or maybe, she has.
QuoteHonestly, she's a dyed in the wool socialist who hasn't figured out that socialism causes everyone except those in power to lose, or maybe, she has.
Really? So let me get this straight, in Socialist nations the poor get government provided healthcare, in Capitalist nations they don't and the rich get better care. So, to measure this against your assertion, everyone except those in power to lose. Hmm, well, in Socialist nations the people in power have higher taxes that go to pay the healthcare for the poor, so how is it that the poor lose? Please don't give me some trickle down BS. Workers in Socialist nations work far fewer hours than we do here.
I've given reaosns why Socialism is better for the poor, worse for the rich, perhaps you can debunk those and tell me how Socialism is worse for the poor.
Lucky... 0
QuoteHow about someone that looks the other way (or, even worse, is oblivious), just for the sake of political expediancy, to her spouse cheating on her???
Yes, that's important, unlike a debt runup in 6 years that has equalled the damage that Reagan/Bush did in 12. Beautiful, let's focus on what's important here; trash teh country, get the world to hate us, but be responsible for your cock. Tell me you're joking.
Lucky... 0
QuoteHmmmm...Objections to Hillary.
Let's see.
1. She and Ted"Chappaquiddick Kid" Kennedy want to desperately redistribute the wealth in this country.
They are trying to do this by taxing those that have taken responsibilty for their own future and are rewarded financially to support a growing "leach" class of society that does not want to achieve anything at all.
2. I am not a gun owner but I strongly believe that Hillary is not really after gun control but firearm confiscation. Do we really want to be treated like those poor bastards in Mexico? They have some of the strongest gun controls around and look at the internal strife of that place.
3. Have you forgotten about her attempt to nationalize healthcare? She would try and turn this country into a socialized utopia.
4.Face it. Bill Clinton is/was a bumbling idiot without her. I truly believe that she ran the presidency for those eight years. Look at some of the bs that went on and on. It all started with travel gate and escalated from there. A lot of people don't trust her and with good reason.
Chao!
Quote1. She and Ted"Chappaquiddick Kid" Kennedy want to desperately redistribute the wealth in this country.
They are trying to do this by taxing those that have taken responsibilty for their own future and are rewarded financially to support a growing "leach" class of society that does not want to achieve anything at all.
Right, the 40 hour worker has contributed nothing. I bet in grade school you wanted to kill Robin Hood, huh? How abiut redistribution enough to pay the medical care for the slugs, the scum that do teh work, handle the hazardous chemicals, so the rich can get richer?
Quote2. I am not a gun owner but I strongly believe that Hillary is not really after gun control but firearm confiscation. Do we really want to be treated like those poor bastards in Mexico? They have some of the strongest gun controls around and look at the internal strife of that place.
And the NRA revoked GHW Bush's membership due to shit he signed. GW Bush said he would sign the sunsetted Assault Weapons ban if Congress put it before him, so what is your point? Brady's wife pushed for teh Brady Bill, what os your point?
Quote3. Have you forgotten about her attempt to nationalize healthcare? She would try and turn this country into a socialized utopia.
Yea, poor families have no business providing care for their kids, what the hell is this bitch doing.
Quote4.Face it. Bill Clinton is/was a bumbling idiot without her. I truly believe that she ran the presidency for those eight years.
That's a strange arg, usually people go teh other way knowing these were the most prosperous years we've enjoyed. Usually they say she would match up to him. Please, list how CLinton was bad for the country.
QuoteLook at some of the bs that went on and on.
List it and if you are so desperate that you need to bring up descency, don;t forget to manage the only president elected with a criminal record.
QuoteIt all started with travel gate and escalated from there. A lot of people don't trust her and with good reason.
Is that the best you can do? WHat was the outcome of travelgate? How were they indicted? List all that affected the country SUBSTANTIVELY AND I will respond. Leave the moral shit for the convicted criminal inofice.
Royd 0
Those of us who choose to succeed by using our God given talents, and who recognize that personal wealth is only acheived honestly through hard work, don't want to give half of it to some slump who decides that getting up at noon, and doing whatever they please, as long as it isn't bending their back to actually produce something, is their God given right.QuoteReally? So let me get this straight, in Socialist nations the poor get government provided healthcare, in Capitalist nations they don't and the rich get better care. So, to measure this against your assertion, everyone except those in power to lose. Hmm, well, in Socialist nations the people in power have higher taxes that go to pay the healthcare for the poor, so how is it that the poor lose? Please don't give me some trickle down BS. Workers in Socialist nations work far fewer hours than we do here.
I've given reaosns why Socialism is better for the poor, worse for the rich, perhaps you can debunk those and tell me how Socialism is worse for the poor.
Do you actually work for a living? If so, would you be happy if every payday I showed up with a gun and demanded that you give me half of your earnings because I'm "poor", and really don't see why I should have to work as hard as you.
That's socialism.
That's also one reason why a large portion of socialist societies don't strive to do their best to advance their personal wealth, because a large portion of it will be taken away, and given to some lazy bastard who doesn't want to hit a lick.
I have worked hard this fall digging up, and planting my fall/winter garden. Do you believe that I owe you some free vegetables?
kallend 2,034
Those of us who choose to succeed by using our God given talents, and who recognize that personal wealth is only acheived honestly through hard work,
Well, it can be obtained like GWB obtained his - inherited from Grandaddy's dealings with the Nazis, no work or talent required.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
kallend 2,034
QuoteThat's also one reason why a large portion of socialist societies don't strive to do their best to advance their personal wealth, because a large portion of it will be taken away, and given to some lazy bastard who doesn't want to hit a lick.
Really? Have you ever heard of Sweden, Denmark, Norway...? You might want to look into their standard of living BEFORE making such a fatuous remark.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
She is married to that man name BILL.
Her daughter is one Ugly thing. Leave Chelsea alone, Ill just throw her a bone.
She only cares about her own objections in life in that she really wants to run for the head office.
Her daughter is one Ugly thing. Leave Chelsea alone, Ill just throw her a bone.
She only cares about her own objections in life in that she really wants to run for the head office.
Kenneth Potter
FAA Senior Parachute Rigger
Tactical Delivery Instructor (Jeddah, KSA)
FFL Gunsmith
FAA Senior Parachute Rigger
Tactical Delivery Instructor (Jeddah, KSA)
FFL Gunsmith
Gawain 0
Honestly, I disagree with most of her politics. Since I don't know her personally, I could only speculate as to what motivates her. However, I wasn't impressed with her health care idea, and when she stood side-by-side with President Clinton (her husband that is) at the beginning of his first term, and we all heard those words, "You're getting two for the price of one" ...or thereabouts, that caused me to groan too.
She is politically well crafted, but it's impossible to gauge her real ability, as I don't think she would be a Senator from New York of all places, if it hadn't been for her husband's success.
She is politically well crafted, but it's impossible to gauge her real ability, as I don't think she would be a Senator from New York of all places, if it hadn't been for her husband's success.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Muenkel 0
QuoteYou could try "she's smarter than 95% of men", which is the REAL reason so many men dislike her. Remarkable number of men dislike smart women.
Oh, were you her professor in her younger days? Otherwise, I fail to see how you would know whether she is 'smarter than 95% of the men'.
Chris
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Chris
Monica?