nathaniel 0 #26 November 8, 2006 Quote Uniform Code of Military Justice, Article 88: I think you missed the forest for the trees. Rummy says the comments issued by the editorials don't reflect opinions in the armed services. You just demonstrated that members in the armed services are restricted in expressing negative opinions of Rummy. QEDMy advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,034 #27 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuote Uniform Code of Military Justice, Article 88: I think you missed the forest for the trees. Rummy says the comments issued by the editorials don't reflect opinions in the armed services. You just demonstrated that members in the armed services are restricted in expressing negative opinions of Rummy. QED ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #28 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuote Uniform Code of Military Justice, Article 88: I think you missed the forest for the trees. Rummy says the comments issued by the editorials don't reflect opinions in the armed services. You just demonstrated that members in the armed services are restricted in expressing negative opinions of Rummy. QED Try again - you didn't mention Rummy in your reply, but MacArthur. But, since you mentioned Rummy; to bring it back into present day, a perfect example is Lt. Watada. He has stated his beliefs and his views against the war, but has not used contemptuous language. Therefore, the most likely course for his court-martial will be for missing movement (Art. 87) and not Art. 88. ETA: It still amazes me how libs seem to think that everything "bad" in the world seems to be the fault of Bush and his administration. Seems to be quite the evil genius for a "dumb Texas hick" (that, incidently, had a HIGHER GPA than Mssr. "Nuance" Kerry at Yale).Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nathaniel 0 #29 November 8, 2006 To call for someone's resignation is unavoidably contemptuous. Do you think it's respectful of the chain of command to insist your superior should be dismissed?My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #30 November 8, 2006 QuoteTo call for someone's resignation is unavoidably contemptuous. Do you think it's respectful of the chain of command to insist your superior should be dismissed? My opinion of the situation doesn't matter. The UCMJ is military law, and I will guarantee you that there is not a General officer out there that isn't very familiar with the UCMJ. They are allowed to disagree with the policies of the administration. I would presume that they are even allowed to disagree in a public venue. They are not, however, allowed to trash the administration while doing it.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,034 #31 November 8, 2006 Looks like Rummy may have got the message. www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/08/rumsfeld.ap/index.html... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #32 November 8, 2006 The peace of shit should be held for treason along with all of his buddiesI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #33 November 8, 2006 QuoteSeems to be quite the evil genius for a "dumb Texas hick" (that, incidently, had a HIGHER GPA than Mssr. "Nuance" Kerry at Yale). HMMM makes you wonder HOW he managed to get such grades.....since he was known for his prowess as a party boy during that time of his life.... HMMM lets see.. what was daddy doing at the time???? Was daddy an alumni of the school???? What frat was he a member of????? so many questions.... so many copied papers... so many grades handed out to a legacy.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #34 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteTo call for someone's resignation is unavoidably contemptuous. Do you think it's respectful of the chain of command to insist your superior should be dismissed? My opinion of the situation doesn't matter. The UCMJ is military law, and I will guarantee you that there is not a General officer out there that isn't very familiar with the UCMJ. They are allowed to disagree with the policies of the administration. I would presume that they are even allowed to disagree in a public venue. They are not, however, allowed to trash the administration while doing it. they are however allowed to express those opinions once theyve retired and many have already done so.. and of course that puts the lie to the statement QuoteThe new “chorus of criticism” noted by the editorials is actually old news and does not include commanders in the field, who remain committed to the mission. because by both military tradition and the UCMJ article you just qouted.... THEY CANT however the Administration is free to belittle, berate and pass over Fully qualified officers who publically disagreed.. Rumsfield should have long since been gone... leaving now doesnt do anything to help the mess he created, but it might gain Bush a few more points with the new House...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
