jakee 1,501 #51 November 9, 2006 QuoteQuote If God exists and created everything... who created God? The Invisible Pink Unicorns dummy. Just ask Cloe the feline prophet. Chloe doesn't have a clue what she's talking about - she can't even spell divine! Stupid cat Although she does have a good point about H. Its a fucking consonant people, so stop using an!!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #52 November 9, 2006 QuoteIPU trumps FSM any day. How dare you deny the Hollyness of the Beer Volcano and Stripper Factory? INFIDEL!Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #53 November 9, 2006 QuoteQuoteNo more stupid than christianity. I have a measure of respect for both. But I don't think either has a firm grasp on the truth.Enlighten us as to your version of "The Truth," Backed up by facts. Please show us any religious belief system that can be backed up by facts.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #54 November 9, 2006 QuoteProve to me God DOESN'T exist, Steve. Prove to me that YUG doesn't exist Prove to me that TUR doesn't eist Prove to me that POR doesn't exist etc Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squarecanopy 0 #55 November 9, 2006 I was as cynical about Jesus as anybody else on this thread before I became a Christian. That was mainly due to a lack of information, assumptions, and misinformation that I had heard from friends, family, priests, "religious people", etc etc. It is a matter of faith, not facts. Faith in God is between you and God. Religion is man made, and subject to all the flaws and mistakes that prevail in everything else touched by mankind. My faith is based on my willingness to believe the Bible, which I consider to be the inspired word of God, left here to guide us since Jesus' departure. And yes, he is coming back. NOBODY knows the time or place, but he will be here...someday. If I am right, I will find out on that day. If I am wrong, I will find out when it doesn't happen, or I will just be dead. Just burning a hole in the sky..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smiles 0 #56 November 9, 2006 Hey, isn't the understanding that before Jesus apparently comes.............. Jesus Christ indicated that false religion produces bad works, just as a "rotten tree produces worthless fruits" (Matthew 7:15-17) Jesus warned: "Every tree not producing fine fruit gets cut down and thrown to the fire" (Matthew 7:19) Revelation 17:18;18:12, 13,23 'all the nations are misled.' ...is harlot a worldwide religion entity? She depicts, not any one religion, but all religions that produce rotten fruit???? The beast that the harlot rides pictures the world's political powers??? False religion straddles the back of this political beast, attempting to influence its decisions and to control its direction?? The ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire???? The worlds political powers will turn on false religion and completely destroy her??? What must we do if we do not want to share the fate of false religion?? Get out of her, my people....the only haven is with true religion??? Whatever, does the end of false religion happen before Jesus apparently comes back??? SMileseustress. : a positive form of stress having a beneficial effect on health, motivation, performance, and emotional well-being. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai136 0 #57 November 9, 2006 QuoteQuoteIPU trumps FSM any day. How dare you deny the Hollyness of the Beer Volcano and Stripper Factory? INFIDEL! I may be an infidel, but I know what I believe and what I beeleave is right. Jesus is coming back... I just don't know when... Cloe has not communicated that information from the IPU's. "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #58 November 9, 2006 To answer your questions, In my opinion, the only people who believe in Jesus are 1 Those who can't belive in them selves 2 Who need a ficticious character to whom they can pass the blame for their problems Now I know I am more intelligent than 3.4 billion persons Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #59 November 9, 2006 QuoteTo answer your questions, In my opinion, the only people who believe in Jesus are 1 Those who can't belive in them selves 2 Who need a ficticious character to whom they can pass the blame for their problems Now I know I am more intelligent than 3.4 billion persons That's a sad statement. And also extremely false. And, no, I do not believe in Jesus or God, or Mohammed, or anything else for that matter. I do know some very intelligent people who are also very religious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #60 November 9, 2006 QuoteQuoteTo answer your questions, In my opinion, the only people who believe in Jesus are 1 Those who can't belive in them selves 2 Who need a ficticious character to whom they can pass the blame for their problems Now I know I am more intelligent than 3.4 billion persons That's a sad statement. And also extremely false. And, no, I do not believe in Jesus or God, or Mohammed, or anything else for that matter. I do know some very intelligent people who are also very religious. Sad, nothing sad about it, If the church renamed it's self as a social club or a charity I would back it. I cannot understand how so called intelligent people can believe in such mumbo jumbo. That is a paradox edit :-spelling Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #61 November 9, 2006 Quote That is a paradox Or maybe you you are not intelligent enough to understand the concept? QuoteSad, nothing sad about it, If the church renamed it's self as a social club or a charity I would back it. Exactly my point about intelligence. You do understand that religion and church are different things....I hope. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #62 November 9, 2006 QuoteI cannot refuse to understand how so called intelligent people can believe in such mumbo jumbo. fixed. edited to fix the Reply to thing Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #63 November 9, 2006 I think you may have replied to the wrong person, I did not say that... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #64 November 9, 2006 Maybe not, but I'm intelligent enough not to get into a discusion with fanatics Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #65 November 9, 2006 QuoteMaybe not, but I'm intelligent enough not to get into a discusion with fanatics Which means you can easily enter into a discussion with me, since I don't believe in God, so can hardly be a religious fanatic. Just had to mention that you were wrong (IMO) in your original statement Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #66 November 9, 2006 That is a paradox Or maybe you you are not intelligent enough to understand the concept? Oh I understand it oh to well, in this case my definition of a paradox is "An obsurd statment that may be true" hence a paradox Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #67 November 9, 2006 QuoteQuote could share my testimony...but the Bible specifically mentions not sharing something "sacred" with people who will just try and rip it apart. Please quote the chapter and verse about not sharing. . She was referring to Matthew 7:6 steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,009 #68 November 9, 2006 Both of you cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #69 November 10, 2006 QuoteTo answer your questions, In my opinion, the only people who believe in Jesus are 1 Those who can't belive in them selves 2 Who need a ficticious character to whom they can pass the blame for their problemsLet's see. Self employed- fixing the screw ups of those who call themselves carpenters. Own my own place. Grow and preserve my own food. At 52 yr. old, ran a 15k in 1:13 Can fix my own vehicle. Can build a house from the ground up Spent 10 months touring the western US at the age of 43 on $8,000. Have no reason to make an excuse for anything. Believe in Jesus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #70 November 10, 2006 Quote To answer your questions, In my opinion, the only people who believe in Jesus are 1 Those who can't belive in them selves 2 Who need a ficticious character to whom they can pass the blame for their problems Now I know I am more intelligent than 3.4 billion persons OK, well, here's a recommendation that would be a lot more enlightening than a few bumper-sticker-like lines posted on a web forum. Read Mere Christianity by CS Lewis. Also, read Crossing the Threshold of Hope by Pope John Paul II. Then tell me that these two men believe in God because they're just plain stupid. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #71 November 10, 2006 Thanks, Do not continually offer holy things to people who devour them, reject them, and turn them back to you lacerated and torn apart. You know what I believe he’s saying? I believe he’s saying that you only need to present the gospel to a certain point and when then people become abusive and blasphemous, it’s time to cease at that point, at least, the offering. There is a limit. At some point you need to walk away. But I find many times people who can't give an answer use this kind of line...Kinda like telling a whuffo they just can't understand skydiving. And thats fine. But then I don't think the religious should enter debates and ask for things they cannot or will not provide either IMO. I enjoy religious debates.....I learn stuff. But I don't accept "just because" as an answer. And that is why I have a hard time believing in a religion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites