Darius11 12 #1 November 9, 2006 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6110095161238848541&hl=en It begs the question. Why do we support Israel with our money, and our weapons, when they are spying on us?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #2 November 9, 2006 Quotehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6110095161238848541&hl=en It begs the question. Why do we support Israel with our money, and our weapons, when they are spying on us? The same reason we give money to countries that harbor terrorists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #3 November 9, 2006 Quotehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6110095161238848541&hl=en It begs the question. Why do we support Israel with our money, and our weapons, when they are spying on us? Old news. We spy on them, they spy on us. We spy on the Brits, they spy on the Germans who spy on the Italians etc. etc.. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #4 November 9, 2006 Is anyone really suprised about this?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #5 November 9, 2006 Yea, and don't think I didn't see you at my bathroom window the other night you PervWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #6 November 9, 2006 QuoteQuotehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6110095161238848541&hl=en It begs the question. Why do we support Israel with our money, and our weapons, when they are spying on us? Old news. We spy on them, they spy on us. We spy on the Brits, they spy on the Germans who spy on the Italians etc. etc.. - I wonder why there doing a 4 part special on it if it is such old news. Maybe it’s just me but I bet most American don’t want to be spied on by anyone especially another country. But trust me I understand if you think the Israelis are ok they get away with everything wouldn’t be surprised if a whole bunch of people will blindly stick up for them again. But if it was a brown person that was spying then you want those bastards nuked. LOLI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #7 November 9, 2006 QuoteIs anyone really suprised about this? Will not surprise for me. But if last week you would have said the Israelis are spying on Americans and our government how many blind sheep would have said “no way that can be true! there our friends and allies”?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #8 November 9, 2006 Blind sheep can talk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #9 November 9, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuotehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6110095161238848541&hl=en It begs the question. Why do we support Israel with our money, and our weapons, when they are spying on us? Old news. We spy on them, they spy on us. We spy on the Brits, they spy on the Germans who spy on the Italians etc. etc.. - QuoteI wonder why there doing a 4 part special on it if it is such old news. Perhaps because the anti-semites will watch it. I'm sure there are a lot of skinheads who will be watching. QuoteMaybe it’s just me but I bet most American don’t want to be spied on by anyone especially another country. It's been happening for many years. Did you know we actually are so aware of it we feed them bad intel? QuoteBut trust me I understand if you think the Israelis are ok they get away with everything wouldn’t be surprised if a whole bunch of people will blindly stick up for them again. But if it was a brown person that was spying then you want those bastards nuked. LOL The skinheads and Nazis agree with you. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #10 November 9, 2006 I think they are just spying on the people who they seem to think are a threat... like those who think destroying the state of Israel ... is a good thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #11 November 9, 2006 Ahhhh....BlessWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites falxori 0 #12 November 9, 2006 QuoteWhy do we support Israel with our money, and our weapons because it serves the interests of the US to protect Israel. Quote, when they are spying on us eveybody is spying on everybody else. if you look at the top floor of the US embassy in Tel-Aviv you'll see a reinforced concrete floor with no windows and lots of antennas on top, and i think its safe to say they are not there for a good MTV reception... "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,034 #13 November 9, 2006 QuoteQuotehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6110095161238848541&hl=en It begs the question. Why do we support Israel with our money, and our weapons, when they are spying on us? Old news. We spy on them, they spy on us. We spy on the Brits, they spy on the Germans who spy on the Italians etc. etc.. - We spy on us too, remember.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #14 November 9, 2006 Who do you mean when you say us?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,034 #15 November 9, 2006 QuoteWho do you mean when you say us? the US government spies on Americans. I expect the UK government spies on brits too.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #16 November 9, 2006 QuoteQuoteWho do you mean when you say us? the US government spies on Americans. I expect the UK government spies on brits too. Yep. Quote Spy planes, clothes scanners and secret cameras: Britain's surveillance future http://www.guardian.co.uk/humanrights/story/0,,1937192,00.html We (the UK) have mutated into a surveillance society - and must share the blame http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1779440,00.html Britain is 'surveillance society' There are up to 4.2 million CCTV cameras in Britain Fears that the UK would "sleep-walk into a surveillance society" have become a reality, the government's information commissioner has said. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6108496.stm Mr. Orwell, of course, was right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #17 November 9, 2006 Of course they do. We're the most survailed nation on earth. But is that really such a bad thing?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #18 November 9, 2006 QuoteOf course they do. We're the most survailed nation on earth. But is that really such a bad thing? I mean you no offense, but the fact that you say that tangibly demonstrates my point that Orwell was correct. PS the answer to your question is, yes, it is such a bad thing. Privacy in and of itself is a precious commodity one squanders at one's considerable peril. The adage, "if you're not doing anything wrong you've nothing to fear" is, as you chaps like to say, bollocks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #19 November 9, 2006 Mi5 is currently working on retarding 30 terrorist planned actions in this country. In a nation of 65Million with no effective borders, and a war on terror that has in its latest incarnation been around for 37 years and now due to our actions supporting the US we are a high value target I ask again, is it really such a bad thing?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Pubwoof 0 #20 November 10, 2006 Quotebecause it serves the interests of the US to protect Israel. How does it serve US interests? I'm not saying it does or it doesn't, it just seems our lives might be a bit less complicated and/or under threat if we weren't protecting them. Anyone have an opinion about this? The glass isn't always half-full OR half-empty. Sometimes, the glass is just too damn big. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #21 November 10, 2006 Yes how does it serve US interests? I dispute that statement. It serves Israel's interests not the USA's.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites falxori 0 #22 November 10, 2006 QuoteHow does it serve US interests? one could say that it goes back to the cold war where everybody but israel in the region alligned themselves with the soviets. but i think it has more to do with being friend who share the same life style and values. Quoteit just seems our lives might be a bit less complicated and/or under threat if we weren't protecting them maybe to a certain degree. i'm sure it would have been less complicated in WWII when the US was helping the UK (before taking an active role), was it wrong back then? O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites falxori 0 #23 November 10, 2006 QuoteYes how does it serve US interests? I dispute that statement. It serves Israel's interests not the USA's. luckily, the US government thinks otherwise and so does most of the american public. "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #24 November 10, 2006 QuoteQuotebecause it serves the interests of the US to protect Israel. How does it serve US interests? I'm not saying it does or it doesn't, it just seems our lives might be a bit less complicated and/or under threat if we weren't protecting them. Anyone have an opinion about this? If you use the search function, you'll find about 47 long threads already devoted to this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #25 November 10, 2006 Quoteone could say that it goes back to the cold war where everybody but israel in the region alligned themselves with the soviets. but i think it has more to do with being friend who share the same life style and values. I agree historically the Isreali relationship served its purpose. But you don't seem to have a current reason. Because we have a similar lifestyle is hardly a benifit to the US.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Amazon 7 #10 November 9, 2006 I think they are just spying on the people who they seem to think are a threat... like those who think destroying the state of Israel ... is a good thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #11 November 9, 2006 Ahhhh....BlessWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #12 November 9, 2006 QuoteWhy do we support Israel with our money, and our weapons because it serves the interests of the US to protect Israel. Quote, when they are spying on us eveybody is spying on everybody else. if you look at the top floor of the US embassy in Tel-Aviv you'll see a reinforced concrete floor with no windows and lots of antennas on top, and i think its safe to say they are not there for a good MTV reception... "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,034 #13 November 9, 2006 QuoteQuotehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6110095161238848541&hl=en It begs the question. Why do we support Israel with our money, and our weapons, when they are spying on us? Old news. We spy on them, they spy on us. We spy on the Brits, they spy on the Germans who spy on the Italians etc. etc.. - We spy on us too, remember.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #14 November 9, 2006 Who do you mean when you say us?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,034 #15 November 9, 2006 QuoteWho do you mean when you say us? the US government spies on Americans. I expect the UK government spies on brits too.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #16 November 9, 2006 QuoteQuoteWho do you mean when you say us? the US government spies on Americans. I expect the UK government spies on brits too. Yep. Quote Spy planes, clothes scanners and secret cameras: Britain's surveillance future http://www.guardian.co.uk/humanrights/story/0,,1937192,00.html We (the UK) have mutated into a surveillance society - and must share the blame http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1779440,00.html Britain is 'surveillance society' There are up to 4.2 million CCTV cameras in Britain Fears that the UK would "sleep-walk into a surveillance society" have become a reality, the government's information commissioner has said. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6108496.stm Mr. Orwell, of course, was right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #17 November 9, 2006 Of course they do. We're the most survailed nation on earth. But is that really such a bad thing?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #18 November 9, 2006 QuoteOf course they do. We're the most survailed nation on earth. But is that really such a bad thing? I mean you no offense, but the fact that you say that tangibly demonstrates my point that Orwell was correct. PS the answer to your question is, yes, it is such a bad thing. Privacy in and of itself is a precious commodity one squanders at one's considerable peril. The adage, "if you're not doing anything wrong you've nothing to fear" is, as you chaps like to say, bollocks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #19 November 9, 2006 Mi5 is currently working on retarding 30 terrorist planned actions in this country. In a nation of 65Million with no effective borders, and a war on terror that has in its latest incarnation been around for 37 years and now due to our actions supporting the US we are a high value target I ask again, is it really such a bad thing?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pubwoof 0 #20 November 10, 2006 Quotebecause it serves the interests of the US to protect Israel. How does it serve US interests? I'm not saying it does or it doesn't, it just seems our lives might be a bit less complicated and/or under threat if we weren't protecting them. Anyone have an opinion about this? The glass isn't always half-full OR half-empty. Sometimes, the glass is just too damn big. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #21 November 10, 2006 Yes how does it serve US interests? I dispute that statement. It serves Israel's interests not the USA's.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #22 November 10, 2006 QuoteHow does it serve US interests? one could say that it goes back to the cold war where everybody but israel in the region alligned themselves with the soviets. but i think it has more to do with being friend who share the same life style and values. Quoteit just seems our lives might be a bit less complicated and/or under threat if we weren't protecting them maybe to a certain degree. i'm sure it would have been less complicated in WWII when the US was helping the UK (before taking an active role), was it wrong back then? O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #23 November 10, 2006 QuoteYes how does it serve US interests? I dispute that statement. It serves Israel's interests not the USA's. luckily, the US government thinks otherwise and so does most of the american public. "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #24 November 10, 2006 QuoteQuotebecause it serves the interests of the US to protect Israel. How does it serve US interests? I'm not saying it does or it doesn't, it just seems our lives might be a bit less complicated and/or under threat if we weren't protecting them. Anyone have an opinion about this? If you use the search function, you'll find about 47 long threads already devoted to this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #25 November 10, 2006 Quoteone could say that it goes back to the cold war where everybody but israel in the region alligned themselves with the soviets. but i think it has more to do with being friend who share the same life style and values. I agree historically the Isreali relationship served its purpose. But you don't seem to have a current reason. Because we have a similar lifestyle is hardly a benifit to the US.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
