"Religion of Peace" Claims More Innocent Lives: 3 Beheadings to Celebrate Ramadan

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Beheaded girls were Ramadan 'trophies'

Stephen Fitzpatrick, Jakarta correspondent
November 09, 2006

THREE Christian high school girls were beheaded as a Ramadan "trophy" by Indonesian militants who conceived the idea after a visit to Philippines jihadists, a court heard yesterday.

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[Skyrad 0]

This shit has been going on for ages on both sides. Its a secatarian war and as in all secatarian wars those who kill in the name of God (Whatever they call him) are the furthest away from the teachings of their proclaimed religion.

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Three Christian men were executed there last month for their role in a massacre of Muslims in 2000 and there have been a series of deadly attacks in the province in recent months.

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[StreetScooby 5]

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However, after further discussion with friends, he decided that beheading Christians could qualify as an act of Muslim charity.

This makes me sick. These people are animals.

We are all engines of karma

[akarunway 1]

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This shit has been going on for ages on both sides. Its a secatarian war and as in all secatarian wars those who kill in the name of God (Whatever they call him) are the furthest away from the teachings of their proclaimed religion.

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Three Christian men were executed there last month for their role in a massacre of Muslims in 2000 and there have been a series of deadly attacks in the province in recent months.

I was there in 72 as a kid. They told us beware going off base (Clark) or the Huks would behead you. Same shit different day. Was even more fun when Marcos declared martial law. Had to be done w/ your drinkin and ho's and back on base by midnight or be shot. Man I used to roam them hills and mountains too. Beautiful territory

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I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[Darius11 12]

Is this religion of peace bull shit getting old for you two?
The peaceful Christians have killed 30K inocent civilians in the past 2-3 years just in Iraq and they have the nerve to judge others and talk about peace.

I wonder if they are incapable of seeing there own Christian and Jewish friends who seem to make cold judgments on how many civilians dead is an acceptable loss to them.


For the really stupid I have to put this in here cause god knows there is lot of stupid people in this world:

I agree that beheading anyone is a barbaric act and I agree the people who did do these actions are worst then animals, but please don’t bring religion or nationality in to it. If you do decide to bring those classification in to the debate fine, but please pick up a book (if you can read) and look at history.
See who has shed more blood? Who has started more wars? Who was responsible for more genocide?


If that is the way you want to remember things lets not forget Hitler was half Christian and half Jewish.
I guess that speaks for all you Christians and Jews out there ha?

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[mnealtx 0]

1. There's rather a large difference between accidental deaths and deliberately targeting civilians.

2. The *murderers* brought the religion into it, not the people passing on the story.

Mike
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[Skyrad 0]

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Is this religion of peace bull shit getting old for you two?
The peaceful Christians have killed 30K inocent civilians in the past 2-3 years just in Iraq and they have the nerve to judge others and talk about peace.

I wonder if they are incapable of seeing there own Christian and Jewish friends who seem to make cold judgments on how many civilians dead is an acceptable loss to them.


For the really stupid I have to put this in here cause god knows there is lot of stupid people in this world:

I agree that beheading anyone is a barbaric act and I agree the people who did do these actions are worst then animals, but please don’t bring religion or nationality in to it. If you do decide to bring those classification in to the debate fine, but please pick up a book (if you can read) and look at history.
See who has shed more blood? Who has started more wars? Who was responsible for more genocide?


If that is the way you want to remember things lets not forget Hitler was half Christian and half Jewish.
I guess that speaks for all you Christians and Jews out there ha?

What he said.

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[Skyrad 0]

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1. There's rather a large difference between accidental deaths and deliberately targeting civilians.

2. The *murderers* brought the religion into it, not the people passing on the story.

This is getting old and boring, I know you're brighter than that. What about the Catholic terrorists that targeted thousands on innocent civillians in the UK, Ireland and the resst of Europe and the same for the Protestant terrorists. To judge a whole religion by the acts of a small minority of maniacs ingaged in a secatarian war is illogical and nonsensical.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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[kallend 2,034]

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1. There's rather a large difference between accidental deaths and deliberately targeting civilians.

You mean we dropped those bombs by accident?

I doubt the families of the dead see much difference at all.

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[Andy9o8 2]

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To judge a whole religion by the acts of a small minority of maniacs ingaged in a secatarian war is illogical and nonsensical.

I agree with Darius and Skyrad. This is really horseshit, and the bigotry behind it isn't even thinly-veiled. Enough already.

[ExAFO 0]

I like kittens and beer. Kittens say meow, and beer gets me drunk.

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

[steveorino 7]

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To judge a whole religion by the acts of a small minority of maniacs ingaged in a secatarian war is illogical and nonsensical.

I agree with Darius and Skyrad. This is really horseshit, and the bigotry behind it isn't even thinly-veiled. Enough already.

Add me to the list of those that agree. Equating wacko fundamentalist Muslims to all of Islam is like equating Fred Felps and Timothy McVeigh to all of Christianity.

Darias and Skyrad's only mistake is when confronted with acts of Islamist terrorists, rather than point out how they are not like the majority of Muslims, they bring up the crusades, Ireland, etc. Unfortunately by doing that they are giving creedance to those who lump all believers of one faith into a messy whole.

steveOrino

[Skyrad 0]

Hmmm...Food for thought

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[Skyrad 0]

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I like kittens and beer. Kittens say meow, and beer gets me drunk.

Errr... Mmmm I don't know

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[ExAFO 0]

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I like kittens and beer. Kittens say meow, and beer gets me drunk.

Errr... Mmmm I don't know

But it is true. Kittens do say meow, and beer does get me drunk.

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

[mnealtx 0]

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1. There's rather a large difference between accidental deaths and deliberately targeting civilians.

2. The *murderers* brought the religion into it, not the people passing on the story.

This is getting old and boring, I know you're brighter than that. What about the Catholic terrorists that targeted thousands on innocent civillians in the UK, Ireland and the resst of Europe and the same for the Protestant terrorists. To judge a whole religion by the acts of a small minority of maniacs ingaged in a secatarian war is illogical and nonsensical.

Like how Darius refered to the "peaceable Christians" in his post?

I understand you and Darius are sensitive on this subject - but it's the terrorists themselves that bring the Muslim religion into the situation. For all the talk about it being a "small minority of maniacs", you'd think you'd hear about moderate imams denouncing the actions of the terrorists.

The problem is, you don't - and the ones that *DO* speak up are subjected to death threats, or killed.

Mike
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[Andy9o8 2]

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[Skyrad 0]

You do, the problem is that the media isn't interested in dispelling the myth of the Muslim bogyman. Its getting far to much milage out of makeing Muslims out to be blood hungry monsters, hell we're to this dacade what the Jews were to the early part of the last century. In the UK were the new Irish, don't trust any of them they're all terrorists. I'm not particularly sensitive about the whole thing of being critical of Islam or any religion so long as those critisims are based on fact or logic and not of prejudice and hatred based in ignorence
(note I'm not calling you any of those things, mearly making a point). Muslims march against 'Islamic' terrorism, call for the rejection of extremists and in the UK have even attacked Islamic extremists on the streets. Do we hear about it? No. Do you hear of the many Islamic organisations against Terror? No. But they exist. The Church didn't always condemn Catholic or Protestant attacks and murders every time they occured so why the expected double standard?

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[Darius11 12]

Ok in your local news how many times do you hear about the good things people do?

I was reading the headlines today. From mass Rapes in the Congo to a family getting killed by a drunk driver. News has become a form of entertainment and you don’t hear about the majority of the things that happen which happen to be the good things MOST people do.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[mnealtx 0]

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You do, the problem is that the media isn't interested in dispelling the myth of the Muslim bogyman. Its getting far to much milage out of makeing Muslims out to be blood hungry monsters, hell we're to this dacade what the Jews were to the early part of the last century. In the UK were the new Irish, don't trust any of them they're all terrorists. I'm not particularly sensitive about the whole thing of being critical of Islam or any religion so long as those critisims are based on fact or logic and not of prejudice and hatred based in ignorence
(note I'm not calling you any of those things, mearly making a point). Muslims march against 'Islamic' terrorism, call for the rejection of extremists and in the UK have even attacked Islamic extremists on the streets. Do we hear about it? No. Do you hear of the many Islamic organisations against Terror? No. But they exist. The Church didn't always condemn Catholic or Protestant attacks and murders every time they occured so why the expected double standard?

Thanks for the reply - and I will admit, I've not heard of any of these counter demonstrations that you mention. I suppose, just like the coverage of the war, showing the GOOD things that happen isn't "sexy" enough.

Mike
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If you do decide to bring those classification in to the debate fine, but please pick up a book (if you can read) and look at history.
See who has shed more blood? Who has started more wars? Who was responsible for more genocide?

I guess Islam is now going for the best "score"????

[Gawain 0]

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Is this religion of peace bull shit getting old for you two?
The peaceful Christians have killed 30K inocent civilians in the past 2-3 years just in Iraq and they have the nerve to judge others and talk about peace.

Since there weren't religious leaders in the Catholic church in Rome directing those attacks against the UK during that time, I don't agree with the comparison, though I understand the observation you're making.

There are religious leaders within Islam that are advocating and encouraging this kind of violence. The Pope hasn't done so in any of our life-times.

Then you go and trip the "Goodwin's Law" threshold...

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[Skyrad 0]

I thought that might be the case. Here are some links to some of those Muslims against Terrorism actions that I have posted here on DZ.com in the past.

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1093534#1093534

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2301581;search_string=Muslims;#2301537

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1527840#1527840

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[Skyrad 0]

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If you do decide to bring those classification in to the debate fine, but please pick up a book (if you can read) and look at history.
See who has shed more blood? Who has started more wars? Who was responsible for more genocide?

I guess Islam is now going for the best "score"????

No more than Christianity is. Think about it, its a silly thing to say.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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[mnealtx 0]

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Ok in your local news how many times do you hear about the good things people do?

I was reading the headlines today. From mass Rapes in the Congo to a family getting killed by a drunk driver. News has become a form of entertainment and you don’t hear about the majority of the things that happen which happen to be the good things MOST people do.

Exactly, Darius - but how often do YOU take the moderate side when something happens and Muslims are involved? You tend to do exactly the same thing, speaking off the cuff, and automatically assume the Christians or Israelis are the bad guys in anything that happens.

Mike
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