Ca. city to ban ALL smoking

[akarunway 1]

I smoke but don't around anybody that doesn't. What the fuck is this world coming to? Flame away on us smokershttp://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=66988 Not in my own fuckin car. Gimme a break

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

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why don't you just shoot yourself? get it over and done with quicker

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[mnealtx 0]

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I smoke but don't around anybody that doesn't. What the fuck is this world coming to? Flame away on us smokershttp://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=66988 Not in my own fuckin car. Gimme a break

Just a foretaste of Hillarycare for you... once you make the gov't responsible for paying your insurance, they get to say what you can/can't do, health-wise. San Mateo is just jumping the gun a bit, that's all.

Look at the posts for people wanting insurance coverage for jumping - you think .gov is going to let you jump and mess up their resource? No friggin way, dude....

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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[Samurai136 0]

Nice.

What will they do to tourists smoking a grit? Can I get a ticket for each infraction?
Do they issue separate littering tickets for tossing the butt in the sewer?

"No Smoking? Huh? Oh, I'm sorry. I thought this was America. California uber alles."

"Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian
Ken

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i love wandering through the cancer ward at my local hospital, makes me feel good about myself that i don't smoke

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[mnealtx 0]

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i love wandering through the cancer ward at my local hospital, makes me feel good about myself that i don't smoke

And you have your self-righteous, holier than thou attitude down pat, too...

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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i love wandering through the cancer ward at my local hospital, makes me feel good about myself that i don't smoke

And you have your self-righteous, holier than thou attitude down pat, too...

am i bovered ?

[mnealtx 0]

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i love wandering through the cancer ward at my local hospital, makes me feel good about myself that i don't smoke

And you have your self-righteous, holier than thou attitude down pat, too...

am i bovered ?

Sockpuppet accounts tend to get stomped by the mods...just so you know.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[CornishChris 5]

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What will they do to tourists smoking a grit?

Does Belmont get many tourists?

CJP

Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

[akarunway 1]

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I smoke but don't around anybody that doesn't. What the fuck is this world coming to? Flame away on us smokershttp://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=66988 Not in my own fuckin car. Gimme a break

Just a foretaste of Hillarycare for you... once you make the gov't responsible for paying your insurance, they get to say what you can/can't do, health-wise. San Mateo is just jumping the gun a bit, that's all.

Look at the posts for people wanting insurance coverage for jumping - you think .gov is going to let you jump and mess up their resource? No friggin way, dude....

My insurance is covered by my union plan. And my pension too!. To bad they pissed away 1. something billion dollars of that money a couple yrs back. Fucking unions suck as bad as the the washinton crowd

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[Gawain 0]

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I smoke but don't around anybody that doesn't. What the fuck is this world coming to? Flame away on us smokershttp://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=66988 Not in my own fuckin car. Gimme a break

I won't flame you. I'm an ex-smoker, but not a "born-again-ex-smoker", you know the type that always get in your face saying, "You know I used to smoke and I want you know that it's really bad for you."

Personally, if you want to smoke a cigarette, go right ahead. If you're a considerate smoker (i.e. stay downwind, don't blow smoke around at face level, etc.) even better.

The bottom line is that behavrior cannot be regulated like this. The city of Belmont will get challenged on this, I don't see the law standing.

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Philip Henry Jarosz of the Condominium Council of Maui.

“The whole state of Hawaii is watching” he said.

Yeah, like Hawaii would alienate one of their biggest tourism demographics - the Japanese (most of them smoke).

Why does no one think this sh*t through. A law isn't needed for everything.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[Royd 0]

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I smoke but don't around anybody that doesn't. What the fuck is this world coming to? Flame away on us smokers

OK, you asked for it.

Your hair stinks, your clothes stinks, your vehicle stinks, your breath stinks, you throw lit butts out of the windows and start fires, you dump you ashtrays at the stop light instead of taking it home and dumping it in the trashcan.

When I have to do a paint job in the house of a smoker, I have to wash everything down that I intend to paint.

You have a two year old in the backseat, and somehow, think that opening the window 1/2 inch is keeping the child from breathing smoke. Give those little lungs a break.

After opening packs of cigs for twenty years, and looking directly at the warning, you still think that you have the right to sue the tobacco company for ruining your life.

There! If I think of more, I'll come back.

Here's another one. The worker who wastes time lighting up, squinting through smoke, taking the cig out of his mouth to exhale, and thinks that he is as valuable as the nonsmoker.

[NCclimber 0]

WE'RE FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU

[Andy9o8 2]

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After opening packs of cigs for twenty years, and looking directly at the warning, you still think that you have the right to sue the tobacco company for ruining your life.

My god, I love this country.

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i like your reasoning
i think of it like this... do i have the right to walk up to somebody and punch them in the face? why not, it's what i want to do so what about my freedom to do what ever i want?

Do i have the right to take ecstacy and cocain if i want to? why not, it's my body so surely i can do what i want yeah?

just the same as i don't have the right to sit in my own car and take ecstacy, why should somebody have the right to sit in their own car and smoke? both are harmful to you, both can kill you, both are seen as bad for society. just because smoking is still legal, people think they should have the right to do it in their own home. No you don't, just like i don't have the right to take recreational drugs in my own home

[Zipp0 1]

Skydiving is more dangerous than smoking.

Oh, and I'd like to ban a few more things:

Fast Food
Meat
Driving
Alcohol


It amuses me that so many skydivers come down so hard on smokers. They are both unnecessary risky behaviors.

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[Gawain 0]

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WE'RE FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU

No shit!! I joke about that all the time, but it's so true. Serving the people as government does not mean a mandate to create more and more laws.

Next thing you know, they'll pass a law like in Calgary making it illegal to take a dump in public...

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[sfc 1]

Well don't live there then, there are lots of other cities in the country.
Why shouldn't a city decide to do this, smokers arn't a protected group under law.
The article says they "voted", they are elected officials, democracy at work, if you don't like it run for city council and change it.
They also baned smoking in apartments :)

[steveorino 7]

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It amuses me that so many skydivers come down so hard on smokers. They are both unnecessary risky behaviors.

I wouldn't come down on anyone who smokes. Pity them, yes, give 'em a hard time, no.

That being said ... about the only thing I don't like about being a tandem master is taking up a smoker. Give me the fatties any day. To calm their nerves they light one up right before the jump. Then when I have to attach them "prison-friendly" to my harness I get to smell their breath, clothes and hair. Gawd, it's like licking an ash tray!

steveOrino

[Zipp0 1]

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It amuses me that so many skydivers come down so hard on smokers. They are both unnecessary risky behaviors.

I wouldn't come down on anyone who smokes. Pity them, yes, give 'em a hard time, no.

That being said ... about the only thing I don't like about being a tandem master is taking up a smoker. Give me the fatties any day. To calm their nerves they light one up right before the jump. Then when I have to attach them "prison-friendly" to my harness I get to smell their breath, clothes and hair. Gawd, it's like licking an ash tray!

Understood. I am a smoker (trying to quit) and I try not to smoke much at the DZ. When I do, I do it outside and make sure to have some altoids, as I can't stand that smell either.

It's a terrible addiction, but as anyone who has ever quit can tell you, it's fucking tough.

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[DrewEckhardt 0]

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I smoke but don't around anybody that doesn't. What the fuck is this world coming to?

The governments are legally able to tell us what we're allowed to put in our bodies and tobacco is a lot more dangerous than substances that are currently illegal at a national level.

While the Federal government used to respect the Constitution enough to ammend it when they wanted to prohibit alcohol, in the last century they've decided that these sorts of regulations are legal under the commerce clause. Perhaps they'll follow California as they do with other efforts to curb air pollution with a national ban.

[Cudlo 0]

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smokers arn't a protected group under law.

damn.. and here I thought I was a citizen, you know the whole life, liberty, pursuit of happiness thing. smoking makes me happy.

But don't worry. I'm sure you don't do anything that could possibly harm yourself, others, or the environment like drink alcohol, have sex, drive a car, fly in an airplane, etc.

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[billvon 3,078]

>smokers arn't a protected group under law.

That's a scary way to look at it, because neither are skydivers, or pilots, or drinkers, or heterosexuals.

The way I look at it is that we are ALL a "protected group" under the law. The government cannot take away our rights without a very good reason, and it's up to us to make sure they don't.

Now, secondhand smoke in public places (like, say, the DMV) is a public health risk, and banning it there makes sense to protect the rights of _others._ But prohbiting smoking in one's own car? Makes no sense.

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But prohbiting smoking in one's own car? Makes no sense.

Why not? It's been done for cell-phone use...

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

[billvon 3,078]

>Why not? It's been done for cell-phone use...

?? There are places that prohibit cell phone use in your car? (Not driving, just while in a car.)

It was my impression that this law prohibited smoking because it was smelly and unhealthy, not due to any safety-while-driving aspect.