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First of all the airline is in a no win situation.If they do nothing someone sues,if they take action someone sues.I have no problem with it at all,though I do believe a mother should cover up,there are some ugly boobies out there, if possible.Who's to know if this woman was not there to make a scene and looking for a lawsuit.



From a legal perspective, every state in the US has specific, clear language that preserves a woman's right to breast feed in public. In addition, there is specific language that clearly states that public breast feeding is exempt from obscenity and indecency laws.

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First of all the airline is in a no win situation.If they do nothing someone sues,if they take action someone sues.I have no problem with it at all,though I do believe a mother should cover up,there are some ugly boobies out there, if possible.Who's to know if this woman was not there to make a scene and looking for a lawsuit.



From a legal perspective, every state in the US has specific, clear language that preserves a woman's right to breast feed in public. In addition, there is specific language that clearly states that public breast feeding is exempt from obscenity and indecency laws.

:)
Check out www.lalecheleague.org

La Leche League is an excellent source of information on this topic. my mother was a leader for a period of time... I am biased.

Jeesh. Now we need a Womans Speakers Corner[:/]
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So this morning we went to Starbucks as we typically do. I had my Peppermint mocha and he had his venti dark roast. The baby had some gingerbread loaf. We had been lingering for quite a bit and Willem was getting sleepy as it was time for his morning nap. He started fussing and was letting me know he wanted to nurse. Typically, we would have packed up and gone home so I could nurse him and put him to sleep because Starbucks doesn't have anywhere private really. Well... we were still enjoying our coffee so I decided to be a rebel and nurse him there.:o I didn't have a blanket but I did have his little blue jacket which you can see in the picture. It's not covering him because he yanked it off when I tried to cover his head with it. You will see though that my shirt covered me completely. No one batted an eyelash at me. He nursed for about 5-10 minutes, I unlatched him, covered back up and then he slept peacefully over my shoulder while we finished our coffees and just relaxed. I'm glad we stayed.:)
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how the hell could somoe take offence to that?



The picture our lov-el-y misskriss posted is tasteful & tactful and is more often what you see than not.

But, I've certainly witnessed a couple public-feedings that seemed inappropriate. Offended? No. But strange & unnecessary? Yes.
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>how the hell could somoe take offence to that?

If they walked around a bit and found just the right angle, I am sure they could work up some righteous indignation.

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WTF. Please tell me you are joking. Please tell me that people do not let 5/6 year olds do that. Please tell me that I am an idiot for not realising that you are joking.

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Please tell me that YOU are joking! yuck. you serious? When a kid older than a baby is nursing there are some serious mental issues at work, on both the kid and the mother's part.



Read my post carefully. I think you will see that I am making the same point that you are. I was shocked to hear that 5 year olds actually nurse. I never heard of such a thing and it made me sick.

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So this morning we went to Starbucks as we typically do. I had my Peppermint mocha and he had his venti dark roast. The baby had some gingerbread loaf. We had been lingering for quite a bit and Willem was getting sleepy as it was time for his morning nap. He started fussing and was letting me know he wanted to nurse. Typically, we would have packed up and gone home so I could nurse him and put him to sleep because Starbucks doesn't have anywhere private really. Well... we were still enjoying our coffee so I decided to be a rebel and nurse him there.:o I didn't have a blanket but I did have his little blue jacket which you can see in the picture. It's not covering him because he yanked it off when I tried to cover his head with it. You will see though that my shirt covered me completely. No one batted an eyelash at me. He nursed for about 5-10 minutes, I unlatched him, covered back up and then he slept peacefully over my shoulder while we finished our coffees and just relaxed. I'm glad we stayed.:)
Excuse my bedhead hair and goofy smile...

Make sure you don't give the kid HOT chocolate. If you don't check it and go speeding down the road and your kid gets burned>SUE THEIR ASSES OFFhttp://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006611160497
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So this morning we went to Starbucks as we typically do.



Make sure you don't give the kid HOT chocolate. If you don't check it and go speeding down the road and your kid gets burned>SUE THEIR ASSES OFFhttp://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006611160497



I think it would be VERY difficult to make fresh breast milk scalding. Starbuck should be happy that she's offering a safe alternative so that dangerous hot chocolate. B|

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So this morning we went to Starbucks as we typically do.



Make sure you don't give the kid HOT chocolate. If you don't check it and go speeding down the road and your kid gets burned>SUE THEIR ASSES OFFhttp://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006611160497



I think it would be VERY difficult to make fresh breast milk scalding. Starbuck should be happy that she's offering a safe alternative so that dangerous hot chocolate. B|

I don't know. A REALLY hot shower and some REALLY hot sex could do it me thinks. ;)
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Why?



Is it psychologically healthy for a 5 or 6 year old to still be sucking on his moms tits?

Richards

Instead of just typing vitriole, why not do some actual research, there is a wealth of info out there to suggest that it's beneficial,

People in general would benefit from not being Myopic and narrow minded.Educating ones self a little on a topic would help the general flow of these type of discussions emensely:|
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I had my Peppermint mocha and he had his venti dark roast.



Just curious...does the caffeine do anything for your baby?

Here's why I ask: When I was pregnant with my daughter, i avoided caffeine. ONCE when I was about 7 months pregnant, I was at a formal dinner reception with my hubby and had a TERRIBLE head cold. I thought i'd have a cup of tea to help it. The little bean went NUTS!!! Kicking and hitting, it was so bad I had to walk up and down the hallway outside to lull the little peanut back to sleep! :S

Nursing my daughter, I avoided caffeine because I was told it wasn't the best for the baby. Ok...

Now that the twins have come along, my MOM suggested I try giving them some caffeine to calm them down, as some studies had pointed to caffeine having a calming effect on kids, particularly 'special needs' type kids...

It does the trick! When Joey is having one of his panic/anger outbursts, a lot of times all we have to do is give him his favorite sugar-free energy drink, and he brings himself back to reality. It's amazing!

Our pediatric Neurologist was all for it, too. He said the same thing. Many substances that commonly make adults sleepy, such as cold medicine, actually wires kids up. -And vice versa, which is why we have battled for YEARS to try to find something to help the boys fall asleep, as they can't prescribe 'sleeping pills', because it tends to wake kids up. :S

I was just curious if you saw a difference with your baby. :)
Edit to add: It is a cute pic. And look how loooong he is! Are you both pretty tall? -Mine are all minitures. Smallest in their classes. :P
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Now that the twins have come along, my MOM suggested I try giving them some caffeine to calm them down, as some studies had pointed to caffeine having a calming effect on kids, particularly 'special needs' type kids...

That's the same response some kids who are diagnosed with ADHA get when they are prescribed Dexamphetamines (speed) the effect is counter intuitive. It's very interesting stuff:)
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Is it psychologically healthy for a 5 or 6 year old to still be sucking on his moms tits?

Richards



According to most research, yes.

"There is no evidence that breastfeeding a child beyond infancy is harmful. Quite the opposite is true: breastfeeding benefits toddlers and young children, both nutritionally and psychologically. Breastmilk remains a valuable source of protein, fat, calcium, and vitamins well beyond two years of age. (1) Immunities in breastmilk become more concentrated as nurslings mature; (2) at the same time, the likelihood of allergies decreases. (3) Mothers who nurse past infancy derive benefits as well, including a decreased risk of breast and ovarian cancer the longer she continues nursing. (4)

Breastfeeding is a warm and loving way to meet the needs of toddlers and young children. It not only perks them up and energizes them; it also soothes the frustrations, bumps and bruises, and daily stresses of early childhood. In addition, nursing past infancy helps little ones make a gradual transition to childhood. In fact, prolonged nursing is associated with better social adjustment. (5)

Breastfeeding past infancy is as old as humanity. Still common in Western cultures as recently as a hundred years ago, the practice then underwent a sharp decline. Now, extended breastfeeding is becoming more popular, and medical professionals are beginning to recognize how valuable it is. While the American Academy of Pediatrics acknowledges the value of breastfeeding for the entire first year of life, (6) the US Surgeon General has stated that it is a lucky baby who continues to nurse until age two. (7) The World Health Organization emphasizes the importance of nursing up to two years of age or beyond. (8) What's more, the number of mothers currently nursing past infancy has created a nationwide market for a book on the subject, which includes an entire chapter on nursing past age four. (9)

Some people are upset, if not shocked, to learn that children can nurse for so long. Curiously, these same people are hardly surprised to see kindergartners sucking their thumbs or fingers. The truth is that the need to suck, like many other dependency needs, does not disappear overnight, and often lasts longer than we as a society are willing to accept. Indeed, the average age of weaning around the world is 4.2 years. (10)"

footnotes:
1. Sally Kneidel, "Nursing beyond One Year," New Beginnings 6, no. 4 (July-Aug 1990): 100.

2. See Note 1.

3. See Note 1.

4. Center for Breastfeeding Information, "Breastfeeding Fact Sheet--1991," (Franklin Park, IL: La Leche League International, 1991).

5. See Note 1, p. 101.

6. Committee on Nutrition, American Academy of Pediatrics, "Follow-up on Weaning Formulas," Pediatrics 83 (1989): 1067.

7. Antonio Novello, MD, US Surgeon General, "You Can Eat Healthy," Parade Magazine (11 Nov 1990): 5.

8. "Innocenti Declaration on the Protection, Promotion and Support of Breastfeeding" (1 Aug 1990), adopted by 32 governments and 10 UN and other agencies at a WHO/UNICEF meeting cosponsored by USAID and SIDA.

9. Norma Jane Bumgarner, Mothering Your Nursing Toddler (Franklin Park, IL: La Leche League International, 1990).

10. Ester Davidowitz, "The Breastfeeding Taboo," Redbook (July 1992): 114.

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You are allowing lazy people to be lazy Kris:ph34r::ph34r::ph34r: I feel that a lot of the people who post in a manner similar to Richards, don't actually want a balanced discussion, they prefer to just vent their uninformed opinion, based on their own narrow view of morality and how others should comform to it.

The reseach is out there and easay to find all they have to do is Stop think and look, and they will find it, most prefer not to though, it's easier to be ignorant;):ph34r:
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You are allowing lazy people to be lazy Kris:ph34r::ph34r::ph34r: I feel that a lot of the people who post in a manner similar to Richards, don't actually want a balanced discussion, they prefer to just vent their uninformed opinion, based on their own narrow view of morality and how others should comform to it.

The reseach is out there and easay to find all they have to do is Stop think and look, and they will find it, most prefer not to though, it's easier to be ignorant;):ph34r:



Well, I figure that if I put the information right there, then even laziness isn't an excuse.:P

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