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My goodness, you've only been to NYC which is predominantly a business district and to Jamaica. Have you ever been to Browsville, Brooklyn? East New York? Upper west side of NYC? The South Bronx?
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I'm reading this stuff and I'm wondering why he even said that if his profile says he lives in Jersey.
CameraNewbie:
For some local news: Homes of friends have been raided and weed and a gun have been found (wow! you bust in on a bunch of 20 y/o's from a phone book and you'll find some weed in someone's house.)
I don't know what papers you're reading but I have yet to hear of a gun INSIDE the car (how'd it get out? was it like in the old western movies when you hold up a gun and Clint Eastwood shoots it RIGHT out of your hand?)
So they are looking for the '4th man in the beige coat who DID have a gun that rand down the street'.
That guy lawyered up. He wasn't in the car. He wasn't wearing a beige coat. His name and black parka with fur trim have been made public through his lawyer. Everyone who was outside at the time was running to avoid being shot. I damned sure wouldn't stand there.
One more thing--ABC, NBC and CBS all report that the cop that overheard the 'go get my shit (gun) remark', went outside and told his commander what he heard and retrieved his weapon and took it back inside the club. They both broke protocol. How can he get back in there with it ANYWAY when every club (except little old man bars) have pat-downs and metal wands at the door?
The cops inside were drinking.
If they KNEW anyone from the Bridal Party was arguing with a KNOWN drug dealer, why not just get the drug dealer and not some people out for a bachelor party?
Having a prior record does not mean cops can stop people and take target practice at them in a parking lot where they have no real idea IF a person has a prior record. Doesn't 'doing your time' or 'being acquitted' mean you are free now? You sure can't tell someone has priors when you're looking up some bimbos ass and drinking and trying to keep your eye on patrons.~~April
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Been to all of those places
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I'm reading this stuff and I'm wondering why he even said that if his profile says he lives in Jersey.
CameraNewbie:
For some local news: Homes of friends have been raided and weed and a gun have been found (wow! you bust in on a bunch of 20 y/o's from a phone book and you'll find some weed in someone's house.)
I don't know what papers you're reading but I have yet to hear of a gun INSIDE the car (how'd it get out? was it like in the old western movies when you hold up a gun and Clint Eastwood shoots it RIGHT out of your hand?)
So they are looking for the '4th man in the beige coat who DID have a gun that rand down the street'.
That guy lawyered up. He wasn't in the car. He wasn't wearing a beige coat. His name and black parka with fur trim have been made public through his lawyer. Everyone who was outside at the time was running to avoid being shot. I damned sure wouldn't stand there.
One more thing--ABC, NBC and CBS all report that the cop that overheard the 'go get my shit (gun) remark', went outside and told his commander what he heard and retrieved his weapon and took it back inside the club. They both broke protocol. How can he get back in there with it ANYWAY when every club (except little old man bars) have pat-downs and metal wands at the door?
The cops inside were drinking.
If they KNEW anyone from the Bridal Party was arguing with a KNOWN drug dealer, why not just get the drug dealer and not some people out for a bachelor party?
Having a prior record does not mean cops can stop people and take target practice at them in a parking lot where they have no real idea IF a person has a prior record. Doesn't 'doing your time' or 'being acquitted' mean you are free now? You sure can't tell someone has priors when you're looking up some bimbos ass and drinking and trying to keep your eye on patrons.~~April
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QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotePS before you tell ME that I'm not a cop, I was a cop 1967-70.
Cop to physics/engineering professor. You have had quite the diverse life experience. What made you go from police work to academia? Not trying to pry but that is quite an interesting career change.
The cop thing was just filler. I always intended to be a teacher.
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Yeah! Most exciting thing that happened was catching a guy that had escaped from jail (truth be told, he just gave up, it wan't all that exciting). A few domestic violence calls and anti (Vietnam) war rallies, other than that, just traffic stuff. I've seen more excitement at cricket matches, really.
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QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotePS before you tell ME that I'm not a cop, I was a cop 1967-70.
Cop to physics/engineering professor. You have had quite the diverse life experience. What made you go from police work to academia? Not trying to pry but that is quite an interesting career change.
The cop thing was just filler. I always intended to be a teacher.
Ofc Kallend: "Stop! Or....I'll say 'stop!' again!!"
Yeah! Most exciting thing that happened was catching a guy that had escaped from jail (truth be told, he just gave up, it wan't all that exciting). A few domestic violence calls and anti (Vietnam) war rallies, other than that, just traffic stuff. I've seen more excitement at cricket matches, really.
Was Kallend the role model for "Jim" on Adam-12?
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Was Kallend the role model for "Jim" on Adam-12?
No, I am a role model and mentor for young people who want to lead productive lives.
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DaVinci 0
QuoteAnd you and others are all to ready to give the police a pass on anything like this
No, I am willing to wait to see what really happend..You want to string up the "man" on the first report. Normal for you.
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yeah.... driving while black is a serious offence...an offence that seems to end up this way far too often
Really, get over yourself. You have no proof this was racist.
QuoteI would flatten the muthafuckas that were trying to shoot at me. I see guns... in a situation like that I am NOT waiting around.....
You are suck a badass, I am so impressed
. Of course the guys with the guns have the same right to defend themselves IMO. And since the cops were the guys with the guns you just justified ALL parties actions.
Pretty simple it seems:
Guys acting loud and fighting start to try to leave. There is an accident and people with guns show up. The three freak out and try to run/fight back. The police open fire since they were being attacked.
The police may not be "right", but that does not mean they were looking to "kill a black person". They were attacked and they defended themselves.
jcd11235 0
QuotePretty simple it seems:
Guys acting loud and fighting start to try to leave. There is an accident and people with guns show up. The three freak out and try to run/fight back. The police open fire since they were being attacked.
The police may not be "right", but that does not mean they were looking to "kill a black person". They were attacked and they defended themselves.
It would be that simple if there had been a weapon found. Thus far it appears to exist only in the stories of the (intoxicated) cops. Until such weapon is found, the cops were not defending themselves.
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the cops were not defending themselves
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so only the use of a firearm justifies defense of oneself? Last time I checked a vehicle is a weapon too when used in the right manner. IMO anytime ANYONE who has been drinking gets behind the wheel of a car they have just turned that car into a weapon. Once again everyone looking to fry the cops before knowing all the facts, it's good to see the assumption of innocence extended to those who seek to protect and serve.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
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Quoteso only the use of a firearm justifies defense of oneself? Last time I checked a vehicle is a weapon too when used in the right manner. IMO anytime ANYONE who has been drinking gets behind the wheel of a car they have just turned that car into a weapon. Once again everyone looking to fry the cops before knowing all the facts, it's good to see the assumption of innocence extended to those who seek to protect and serve.
Someone posted previously in this thread that SOP for NYPD is there must be another weapon besides the vehicle to justify deadly force.
Besides, it hasn't been shown that the three gentlemen who were shot were trying to run anyone over. I haven't seen any evidence suggesting they knew the gunmen were cops, or that they intentionally tried to run any of the gunmen down.
So far the evidence indicates the cops were in the wrong.
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The cop thing was just filler. I always intended to be a teacher.
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